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**kiran_borra** · 07-01-2011, 09:11 PM

Originally posted by Yasser View Post

Hi! Fellow Ninjites,

For the second time in as many months, I experianced failure of my rear brake. Both times, I was doing a healthy speed and the only reason, I did not crash was because I do not rely too much on the rear brake.

The brake pedal simply goes all the way down and there is zero effect of the braking..after a little while, the brake functions normally again.

This is something you do not expect even from a Bajaj or TVS, leave alone a Kawasaki

Did any of you experiance this problem and if yes, what was it diagnosed as?

WHAT THE **

This is the least we can expect for a premium bike !!!
Btw, Yasser I remember speaking to you an year back regarding your Ninja and finally got mine a couple of weeks back

Listening these things is really scary

Originally posted by Gahlaut View Post

Question, did it happen while riding in rains? Happened to me very recently, while it was the first time in 10 months though, it was the 1st ride in heavy rains. Have not got it checked yet but understood from this forum itself that it could be cause of air in the rear break line, and it has been a frequent problem with the Ninja!

I hope there should be a resolution planned up by Kawasaki after all these years

Originally posted by xinfii View Post

I'm very concerned on hearing about your problem. I've owned a 250R close to 2 years and have ridden over 20k kms on it. I've never experienced it even once. I strongly recommend talking to one of the Service Heads in your location and getting it checked completely. Sometimes we mistake ourselves and it could be a human error too. Think again. If nothing happens on your end, PM me. I'll try talking to the Service Head here. He is a very helpful person.

+ 100

Btw, Praveen... I suppose you will be now busy in the ST7 ownership from now on

Hearty congrats for winning the True Wanderer competition !

I am still searching for my lower Jaw after seeing your pics and travelogue

**Professor Biker.....** · 07-01-2011, 09:12 PM

Originally posted by trustvishwas View Post

Since the prescribed rev limit for first 800 km is 4,000 rpm, you should shift around 3,500 to 3,750 rpm. It would not harm your engine or gearbox.

I do not have first hand experience but the reports I have heard are good.

I second to this, but you may feel the 6th gear needing some extra effort to slot in, because you're riding within the limit.

http://shopabroadonline.com/home.asp- Here's another website, you can get a quote there and then, but with iccworld, you need to wait for a day or two. Reliability wise, my friend just got a Fender Stratocaster Guitar delivered, he got it within a week.

Originally posted by ninjaboy View Post

Yes it was me ...my bike had arrived a week before but i was sailing so as soon as i came i got it. Well sometimes its so difficult to control the throttle , to be frank i have a given a few short bursts upto 7K

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But now iam learning the art of self control slowly though.

but i found the horn to be alil sissy could have been heavier

Originally posted by Yasser View Post

Hi! Fellow Ninjites,

For the second time in as many months, I experianced failure of my rear brake. Both times, I was doing a healthy speed and the only reason, I did not crash was because I do not rely too much on the rear brake.

The brake pedal simply goes all the way down and there is zero effect of the braking..after a little while, the brake functions normally again.

This is something you do not expect even from a Bajaj or TVS, leave alone a Kawasaki

Did any of you experiance this problem and if yes, what was it diagnosed as?

I experienced the same on my http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/1...ll-150kms.html ride. But after a while the brakes were working fine.

Originally posted by xinfii View Post

I'm very concerned on hearing about your problem. I've owned a 250R close to 2 years and have ridden over 20k kms on it. I've never experienced it even once. I strongly recommend talking to one of the Service Heads in your location and getting it checked completely. Sometimes we mistake ourselves and it could be a human error too. Think again. If nothing happens on your end, PM me. I'll try talking to the Service Head here. He is a very helpful person.

Guess it is a problem with the newer bikes or as suggested before, could be because of the presence of Air in the Brake Hose. Happened only once though.

**TenHut** · 07-01-2011, 09:18 PM

Bleed your rear brakes. While you are at it bleed the front ones too. This isn't kawasakis doing alone. Weather will have a huge effect on it.

**Professor Biker.....** · 07-01-2011, 09:37 PM

Originally posted by TenHut View Post

Bleed your rear brakes. While you are at it bleed the front ones too. This isn't kawasakis doing alone. Weather will have a huge effect on it.

Roger.........

**Professor Biker.....** · 07-01-2011, 09:39 PM

Originally posted by kiran_borra View Post

Btw, Praveen... I suppose you will be now busy in the ST7 ownership from now on

Hearty congrats for winning the True Wanderer competition !

I am still searching for my lower Jaw after seeing your pics and travelogue

I totally agree to this......... Great write-up and incredible pics.

I have a requisition kinda thing for all the Pune Baby Ninette owners. Why not have a meet for all the owners, make an exclusive Baby Ninjette Owners G2G? Probably if we go to Lonavala, Mumbai guys could also meet-up. It'll be super fun and a great experience for sure. Please post your thoughts on this.

**harsha645** · 07-01-2011, 11:22 PM

Originally posted by Yasser View Post

Hi! Fellow Ninjites,

For the second time in as many months, I experianced failure of my rear brake. Both times, I was doing a healthy speed and the only reason, I did not crash was because I do not rely too much on the rear brake.

The brake pedal simply goes all the way down and there is zero effect of the braking..after a little while, the brake functions normally again.

This is something you do not expect even from a Bajaj or TVS, leave alone a Kawasaki

Did any of you experiance this problem and if yes, what was it diagnosed as?

i havent experienced it till now,but as tenhut said bleeding the rear brakes would solve the issue...but what if the same happens with front breaks

.its scary to imagine

**TenHut** · 07-02-2011, 09:42 PM

Originally posted by harsha645 View Post

i havent experienced it till now,but as tenhut said bleeding the rear brakes would solve the issue...but what if the same happens with front breaks

.its scary to imagine

It wont take u by surprise. It took the other guy by surprise cause (as he said it himself) he doesnt really use the rear brake. So in the intitial days when the brakes were developing some problem due to moisture or air caught into them the brakes would have given him a sort of a warning. But since he doesnt use them he missed the warning.

Since you use your front brakes regularly and all the time the moment there is a slight air bubble in your brake lines you are gonna get that strange spongy feeling and the lever travel for the same braking distance will go on varying. Thats when you need to bleed them.

My point is...its not gonna catch you by surprise like it caught him by surprise. Any which way, you should always be extra careful about maintaining brakes..check brake pads..check line health..almost every single ride.
Brakes > Optimus Prime !!!

**toolkit** · 07-03-2011, 03:31 PM

Hi people, I don't write on this thread v often but now i need your help. While riding in the rains, I am getting smoke coming out of the front of the bike. The volume of the smoke is like somebody has lighted up a few incense sticks. It seems to be around the radiator area. It happens, when the bike has come to a halt at a traffic signal or similar. After a few seconds of stoppage, the smoke starts. The Thane PBK guys have checked the electricals "thoroughly" and said there is no problem. Have any of you faced this problem. I am very worried.

Note: I recently had an accident, the front tyre gave way on a hairpin bend in the ghats and resulted in a tank slapper on the left side. Damage to side fairing(replaced), indicator gone(replaced) and gear lever was also replaced.

Thanks
Akshay

**gouravkatyal** · 07-03-2011, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by toolkit View Post

Hi people, I don't write on this thread v often but now i need your help. While riding in the rains, I am getting smoke coming out of the front of the bike. The volume of the smoke is like somebody has lighted up a few incense sticks. It seems to be around the radiator area. It happens, when the bike has come to a halt at a traffic signal or similar. After a few seconds of stoppage, the smoke starts. The Thane PBK guys have checked the electricals "thoroughly" and said there is no problem. Have any of you faced this problem. I am very worried.

Note: I recently had an accident, the front tyre gave way on a hairpin bend in the ghats and resulted in a tank slapper on the left side. Damage to side fairing(replaced), indicator gone(replaced) and gear lever was also replaced.

Thanks
Akshay

Don't worry about it, that is just some water droplets on the radiator evaporating...

**The Celebrity** · 07-03-2011, 04:09 PM

Originally posted by toolkit View Post

Hi people, I don't write on this thread v often but now i need your help. While riding in the rains, I am getting smoke coming out of the front of the bike. The volume of the smoke is like somebody has lighted up a few incense sticks. It seems to be around the radiator area. It happens, when the bike has come to a halt at a traffic signal or similar. After a few seconds of stoppage, the smoke starts. The Thane PBK guys have checked the electricals "thoroughly" and said there is no problem. Have any of you faced this problem. I am very worried.

How long have been riding before the smoke come? I'm not sure but I'm assuming it could only be steam coming when rain-water falls on the warmed-up pipes.

The more experienced Ninjas here will give you the correct reason if I'm wrong.

**toolkit** · 07-03-2011, 04:21 PM

I have ridden my bike before in the monsoons (last year), but never noticed this. Could this be a problem with the radiator or may be the coolant somehow got contaminated with some oil when i had the accident. Or water is dripping at some place it isn't supposed to.
If if is just steam, then probably there is less reason to worry.. but I can't go on a long ride unless i find out the root cause of this.

**vkavadia** · 07-03-2011, 04:38 PM

Originally posted by toolkit View Post

Hi people, I don't write on this thread v often but now i need your help. While riding in the rains, I am getting smoke coming out of the front of the bike. The volume of the smoke is like somebody has lighted up a few incense sticks. It seems to be around the radiator area. It happens, when the bike has come to a halt at a traffic signal or similar. After a few seconds of stoppage, the smoke starts. The Thane PBK guys have checked the electricals "thoroughly" and said there is no problem. Have any of you faced this problem. I am very worried.

Note: I recently had an accident, the front tyre gave way on a hairpin bend in the ghats and resulted in a tank slapper on the left side. Damage to side fairing(replaced), indicator gone(replaced) and gear lever was also replaced.

Thanks
Akshay

If you're riding in the rains a lot and don't clean the radiator then you might want to do so.. All the muck on the radiator will stand in the way of proper cooling.. Although i'm not sure this is the reason for the smokey stuff..

**bluevolt** · 07-03-2011, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by toolkit View Post

Hi people, I don't write on this thread v often but now i need your help. While riding in the rains, I am getting smoke coming out of the front of the bike. The volume of the smoke is like somebody has lighted up a few incense sticks. It seems to be around the radiator area. It happens, when the bike has come to a halt at a traffic signal or similar. After a few seconds of stoppage, the smoke starts. The Thane PBK guys have checked the electricals "thoroughly" and said there is no problem. Have any of you faced this problem. I am very worried.

Thanks
Akshay

Originally posted by gouravkatyal View Post

Don't worry about it, that is just some water droplets on the radiator evaporating...

Originally posted by The Celebrity View Post

How long have been riding before the smoke come? I'm not sure but I'm assuming it could only be steam coming when rain-water falls on the warmed-up pipes.

The more experienced Ninjas here will give you the correct reason if I'm wrong.

Like others said. This reason is 99% to be steam which falls on your radiator fins and which evaporates. As long as it doesn't smell like smoke, it is ok.

**toolkit** · 07-03-2011, 05:20 PM

Thanks for all your replies. There is a lot of muck covering my radiator. never bothered with cleaning it as the engine temperatures never went that high. Will do so and check if that takes care of it. However, if it is simply a case of rain water vaporizing on the radiator, a lot of other ninja owners should have noticed it while riding in rain.

**The Celebrity** · 07-03-2011, 05:43 PM

Originally posted by bluevolt View Post

Like others said. This reason is 99% to be steam which falls on your radiator fins and which evaporates. As long as it doesn't smell like smoke, it is ok.

I did tell him an expert will reply..

Originally posted by toolkit View Post

if it is simply a case of rain water vaporizing on the radiator, a lot of other ninja owners should have noticed it while riding in rain.

Maybe the other Ninja riders already know about the vapouring water.

Clean the radiator and there should be a reduction of the steam...

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