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**JAKRAP** · 08-19-2011, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by BOND_001 View Post

has nobody changed their brake pads?

1200 bucks for one. Either front or rear.

**aquanav** · 08-19-2011, 12:03 PM

Originally posted by vinbex View Post

guys..any idea when the 2012 version going to be launched???

Even if it does launch, nothing new. The American 2012 Ninja is almost same as what is sold here visually. As far as specs are concerned, ours is FI, and the American one is Carburetted.

Funny thing is, they dropped the "R" ... it's no longer 250R, just 250.

**kariznin** · 08-19-2011, 12:32 PM

Hey Guys
Was searching over the internet about some useful upgrades for the bike and got to know about the MAGNETIC DRAIN BOLT.
The magnetic drain bolt attracts all the metal fillings or debris that are produced when the engine runs and thus improves it's life.
You can find more information on this here : Magnetic Oil Drain Plug Automotive Truck Motorcycle Industrial Engine.

Are any of you guys using this? What's your say on this and does it really help improving engine life ?

P.S. : Xena XX-xx users are you able to fit your XENA locks in the front or rear discs small holes or does it fits only to the big gaps that are there in the discs because I was not able to insert it in the small holes that are in discs. I am using XX6 model.
Also, does the alarm only buzz of when there is a little to -n- forth movement of the bike and discs move a little or it gets activated on slight sensation/touch to the bike ? As mine only gets activated when there is little to -n- forth movement of the bike or I intentionally touch the device. It doesn't gets activated when someone tries to touch the bike or lean over it.

**Praful** · 08-19-2011, 12:35 PM

Originally posted by kariznin View Post

Hey Guys
Was searching over the internet about some useful upgrades for the bike and got to know about the MAGNETIC DRAIN BOLT.

I have not seen the size of the drain bolt on the N250, but if the size is identical to the P220 you use that instead as it has magnetic drain bolt. Will work out cheaper too

But would only work if the sizes are identical.

**Sarvajit** · 08-19-2011, 12:40 PM

Originally posted by Praful View Post

I have not seen the size of the drain bolt on the N250, but if the size is identical to the P220 you use that instead as it has magnetic drain bolt. Will work out cheaper too

But would only work if the sizes are identical.

Magnetic drain bolt? Does that mean that we just need to attach a magnet&pull out the drain bolt-no need to unscrew it?

**Praful** · 08-19-2011, 12:44 PM

Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post

Magnetic drain bolt? Does that mean that we just need to attach a magnet&pull out the drain bolt-no need to unscrew it?

Hehehe.. nope not really. Its still a bolt, its just magnetic so it picks up iron bits.

Helped me detect a break in one of my gears, the bike was running fine but internally a dog tooth had broken off from one the gears!

**kariznin** · 08-19-2011, 12:55 PM

Originally posted by Praful View Post

I have not seen the size of the drain bolt on the N250, but if the size is identical to the P220 you use that instead as it has magnetic drain bolt. Will work out cheaper too

But would only work if the sizes are identical.

Yes, I was too searching the same but couldn't find bolt size similar to what N250R has i.e. 17mm(I am not sure for this).
Wasn't aware that P220 has a magnetic drain bolt.

Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post

Magnetic drain bolt? Does that mean that we just need to attach a magnet&pull out the drain bolt-no need to unscrew it?

It is not like that, it will be used instead of the stock drain bolt and has magnetic capabilities at it's tip, so that it could attract metal fillings that are being produced in the engine and mixes with the oil and circulated in the entire engine.

**Sarvajit** · 08-19-2011, 01:00 PM

Originally posted by Praful View Post

Hehehe.. nope not really. Its still a bolt, its just magnetic so it picks up iron bits.

Helped me detect a break in one of my gears, the bike was running fine but internally a dog tooth had broken off from one the gears!

Originally posted by kariznin View Post

Yes, I was too searching the same but couldn't find bolt size similar to what N250R has i.e. 17mm(I am not sure for this).
Wasn't aware that P220 has a magnetic drain bolt.

It is not like that, it will be used instead of the stock drain bolt and has magnetic capabilities at it's tip, so that it could attract metal fillings that are being produced in the engine and mixes with the oil and circulated in the entire engine.

I see, understood!

Can I use this in my R15/Fiero F2?

**kariznin** · 08-19-2011, 01:08 PM

Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post

I see, understood!

Can I use this in my R15/Fiero F2?

Technically I cannot suggest you that as I don't have sufficient information on this and I too wanted advice from the users here. Just read over the internet about this and one ZX 10R user suggested me for this as he was using in his bike and told me that it is beneficial for the engine life.

So, let's wait for more replies/suggestions to come in as that would help us to judge better for using this in our bikes.

**Praful** · 08-19-2011, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by kariznin View Post

Yes, I was too searching the same but couldn't find bolt size similar to what N250R has i.e. 17mm(I am not sure for this).
Wasn't aware that P220 has a magnetic drain bolt.

Head to the nearest PBK and just check at the spares section if they are similar in size!

**psr** · 08-19-2011, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by kariznin View Post

Technically I cannot suggest you that as I don't have sufficient information on this and I too wanted advice from the users here. Just read over the internet about this and one ZX 10R user suggested me for this as he was using in his bike and told me that it is beneficial for the engine life.

So, let's wait for more replies/suggestions to come in as that would help us to judge better for using this in our bikes.

The easiest way to do is to stick a suitable size magnet to top of existing drain bolt.Undo the drain bolt and take it with you to the electronic market...ask for small speaker...behind the speaker you have the magnet...better still all the headphones used with Mobile phone have small speakers in the earphone...Take a damaged non working piece and crack it open with screwdriver...the head phone inside has a small magnet at the back which you can take and paste with Fewi Quick to the top of the drain bolt...Make sure such an arrangement does not impede oil filtering or oil circulation in any way...if you are doubtful...Don't do it.

**kariznin** · 08-19-2011, 04:26 PM

Originally posted by Praful View Post

Head to the nearest PBK and just check at the spares section if they are similar in size!

Will go and find out for this.

Originally posted by psr View Post

The easiest way to do is to stick a suitable size magnet to top of existing drain bolt.Undo the drain bolt and take it with you to the electronic market...ask for small speaker...behind the speaker you have the magnet...better still all the headphones used with Mobile phone have small speakers in the earphone...Take a damaged non working piece and crack it open with screwdriver...the head phone inside has a small magnet at the back which you can take and paste with Fewi Quick to the top of the drain bolt...Make sure such an arrangement does not impede oil filtering or oil circulation in any way...if you are doubtful...Don't do it.

Hi Sir, that's a nice DIY for this magnetic drain bolt.

But, I have concern regarding this DIY, the magnet which is to be sticked with the bolt, will it sustain the oil circulation pressure when engine is running because it may loose it's contact after use over period of time and may get circulated with oil inside the engine ? And if in case, it gets detached it will get circulated inside the engine block and may cause some issue ?
Also sir, kindly shed some light on it's working. Will it be really beneficial for the engine life and performance ?

**psr** · 08-19-2011, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by kariznin View Post

Will go and find out for this.
Hi Sir, that's a nice DIY for this magnetic drain bolt.

But, I have concern regarding this DIY, the magnet which is to be sticked with the bolt, will it sustain the oil circulation pressure when engine is running because it may loose it's contact after use over period of time and may get circulated with oil inside the engine ? And if in case, it gets detached it will get circulated inside the engine block and may cause some issue ?
Also sir, kindly shed some light on it's working. Will it be really beneficial for the engine life and performance ?

Whenever the engine is stressed,or parts tolerance off spec, moving parts tend to grind against each other more than design parameters and some amount of metal is shed...this is attracted by the magnet and held captive and not allowed to be part of oil circulation.....In the DIY IF the circulation is not at higher velocity then this will not cause problem...If you want a really fool proof method, take a magnet 3mm less in dia than the drain bolt, go to a lathe shop and cut out the required depth and width of the magnet so that it will sit 1mm less than the bolt surface.Now seal the magnet inside cavity with lathe help and your magnetic bolt will not hamper any parameter.

**aquanav** · 08-19-2011, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by Praful View Post

Head to the nearest PBK and just check at the spares section if they are similar in size!

that just might work! I won't be surprised if they are of the same size. Since some parts are localized, they might be the same. In fact I noticed the Pulsar 220 Split handle bar is inspired / almost similar to the Ninja 250R's! Will call PBK Chennai and find out, looks like a worthwhile effort, especially after reading all the external links.

**n_aditya** · 08-19-2011, 07:31 PM

Originally posted by kariznin View Post

Xena XX-xx users are you able to fit your XENA locks in the front or rear discs small holes or does it fits only to the big gaps that are there in the discs because I was not able to insert it in the small holes that are in discs. I am using XX6 model.
Also, does the alarm only buzz of when there is a little to -n- forth movement of the bike and discs move a little or it gets activated on slight sensation/touch to the bike ? As mine only gets activated when there is little to -n- forth movement of the bike or I intentionally touch the device. It doesn't gets activated when someone tries to touch the bike or lean over it.

I have the Xena XX-6 model and it fits in the big gaps. The locking pin is 6mm and will not fit into the small holes on the brake rotors.

The alarm contains a filament/element that is very sensitive to movement. When this moves it triggers the alarm. If you lock the front wheel with the xena lock it will trigger the alarm even if the bike moves a bit.

Tip - lock the xena on the top of the disc (just below the front mudguard/wheel hugger) and it will be "hyper sensitive". The lower you place the lock the lesser the sensitivity.

I got a few PM's regarding queries on the top up cover (Nil depreciation cover) which i opted from Oriental Insurance Co.

Here is a top-up cover explanation.

You can download the pdf document from the Oriental Insurance website. I am unable to access the link due to some network issues. Will try later and post the link.

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