Verdict: Dont buy the ZMA Brake pads



You must be right. I put the rear brake pads(Original Ninja ones) on the front and it works like a dream. THe front shocks dive like a killer whale when the brakes are touched The killer bite has returned and am happy .
SO i have put the ZMA pads on the rear and now its a drum brake (comparatively)

This is what happens when u localize components. The quality is abysmal.

Is that 2.4K for just one end (Front/rear) Nissin pad or for both?

I am using a ZMA too and the disc pads cost me around 2100 INR here in Delhi comprises of both the ends for the front discs. So, that may be the Nissin one's that I got.
They work great on ZMA but one of my friends who was using disc pads that cost around 1200 for the ZMA was not satisfied with braking response.
So, may be the Nissin brake pads that are for ZMA will work good with Ninja too.

Just came back from a morning ride of 270KMS. Had some issues reagrding the performance.
Few days back, I filled in Motul 5100 15W 50 SS and get cleaned the air filter with the oil filter also changed from PBK. Immediately after taking the bike out of the PBK felt smooth.
After that I didn't go for a long ride, just took her to office once and felt that the bike is performing a little slugish, I thought it might be the clutch setting and adjusted the clutch to it's correct play.
In today's ride it felt little heavy and it need to put in lot effort to do 140+ but earlier it could easily do 150+ without any hassles or showing signs of putting in a lot.
I observed the speed to rpm ratio is also different from before.
Earlier, it could do
@ 4K rpm 58KMPH & now 56KMPH and @6K 78KMPH and now 75KMPH.
So, after the ride went directly to the PBK and got it checked, they said every thing is fine and clutch setting might be the issue but also had done dyno test for it before just to check top end & it managed 155+ but the rpm was @ 12K.

I personally feel there is nothing wrong with the bike as nothing was touched at the PBK during the oil change apart from cleaning the air filter.
Earlier it revved freely and fly but now it felt different.

Is it due to the New Motul Oil that is poured in ? As, I feel it protects the engine better at higher temp and doesn't loose it's viscosity at high revs and thus engine feels a liitle heavy to rev and get to it's top end .

Experienced owners please give your inputs. Motul oil users also give in your thoughts here.

^^^ Anyone ???

will it be due to that heavy oil.... But many are using 15W50 oil in ZMR without any problems,Then how will it affect a Ninja?

for my bike 4krpm = 60kmph, 6krpm = 85kmph...

Regarding the engine oil, i too use motul fully synthetic and it's very very smooth at high rpms and it certainly doesn't restrict the rev-happy nature of the engine. In fact if anything it makes it easier to rev and redline.

AFAIK, 155kmph should be achieved at 11krpm...don't quite remember it perfectly though! under test conditions such as the one at pbk dyno, i suspect the rpm should be even lower than the rpm in road conditions (wind resistance, no rider weight, air con? lol). Get it checked again after another speed run and make a note of the temperature needle position! Btw, did you get the radiator cleaned properly?

p.s. I'm sure other more experienced riders will shed some light into this...quite shocking about the inactivity of this thread since couple of days!

That's getting me confused too, how could Motul oil would affect performance of a Ninja in any ways.

That's the difference I am feeling too, rpm to speed ratios.
Rpm differences are noticeble, yes you are right bro at dyno the rpm should be low as compared to real scenario but wasn't able to find out why this is there as bike feels fine, no difference apart from the performance.
The temp needle today didn't rise above the middle level even when I tried to get at some high speed as it was a real cool morning and my bike is just 4 months old and 3300kms on odo before this morning ride and I have always taken good care of her and never ride in rains, so the radiator was absolutely clean infact the bike was not at all dirty.
Not getting why this happening as no changes were made to the bike.

+1, where are all experienced owners !?! Please give inputs here.

Motul Oil affecting the engine should not be the case unless the oil is duplicate
I faced somewhat similar issue (bike's speed not keeping up with rpm) and the issue was I did not touch the bike for a week and then took her out. So the air pressure came down... which directly means that tyres are sticking more to the ground and increasing the traction...

As you are saying that Radiator is all clean unable to figure out what might be the issue

BlueVolt... Please come to the rescue

I checked in for the tyre pressure last night and get it corrected i.e. 28psi for front and 32psi for the rear. Always going in for long rides I keep in mind to check tyre pressure and keep other basic checks in mind.

Uncleaned air filter, low tire pressure, uncleaned/dry chain all are the basic things which will very well affect the performance of the bike...

For me at least 5 points of tire PSI will be reduced with in a gap of 5 days/150KMs. Do I have to check the tire?

Today I have noticed that my bike cover's under body buckle is open. When I check, some one has deliberately scratched the bike fairing. The scratches are only slightly viewable , but deep enough that we can see the plastic colour outside. Any solution for the scratch available at service center?

I think you should get the tyre,rim,valve checked. I hardly have to check pressure in my tyres but I as a habit I just got it checked once every two weeks.

About the scratches, you can just do a wash first and see if they are actually
scratches. If they are then there is not much PBK can do. They offered to get it painted from a local workshop but they said they will paint the whole thing and I am pretty sure the colour doesnt match with the original colour.
If the scratches are minor, ignore them for now.

Another option is to order touch up pens from Motorcycle Paint - ColorRite
They have paints for all motorcycles (supposedly).
I think Bluevolt ordered one and according to him ColorRite doesnt offer an exact match either.

1) What was your idle RPM before and after you felt this?
2) What is the average amount of fuel in your tank - I mean, do you often ride with your tank full, or keep at half to 3/4's?
3) Did you get your fuel refilled from a different place or put in a different kind?
4) Is your rear sprocket in good condition. I know the bike is only 3k old, but never hurts to check.
5) When was the last time your accelerator cable was lubed?

Thanks Sir for coming in to the rescue.

1) RPM before and after was always mainteained at 1100
2) When I had gone for the ride, it was a full tank but while on the return trip it was less than 1/2 tank full
3) I always used company owned bunk to fill in the fuel and used always Speed petrol and never changed to lower octane petrol
4) Checked the rear sprocket and it is in good condition, I verified using the serivce manual
5) It had never been done after I owned the bike, may be at the time of manufacturing it was done

Just came back from the PBK, they were clueless what could be the issue behind this. They checked on pursuation for Spark Plugs that cable connected to the plug is tight or not and right cylinder plug was little loose, so they tightened that and again cleaned the air filter throughly.

After that I again took it for a spin and the issue was the same, rpm to speed ratios were different than the usual.

Had a word with JD666 and he told me that drive chain can cause major issues to the top end if its not lubed properly. But, I used to clean and lube at every 600KMS. So, just coming back home I checked for the slackness and it was fine. Read the service manual regarding its inspection and found indicators for correct rear chain alignnment are not in place slightly.
So sir, this could be the reason for all issue I am having regarding the top end and rpm vs speed differences !?!

hai guys,

i got chance to start and take my bike for a ride after a long gap of one month(havent even started it in past month)..should i change the engine oil now??
my odo is 8000kms now and i changed to motul full synthetic at 6000kms...
any other things should i change(like break oil..etc)??

thanks.