Thanks. Does the bike -

1) Take more time to start the engine that normal?
2) Do you see a visible difference in the engine exhaust coming out of the pipe?

1) bike starts in just 1 press of the self starter and 1st time during the day or after few hours of rest(min 5 hrs) it starts at 2k rpm and settles down to 1100
2) when bought the bike they were of brass color but they have turned a little black and no difference when the engine cold or hot

No I meant the color of the exhaust fumes, not the physical exhaust.

No noticeble fumes are visible from the exhaust and it like this from day 1 sir

there has been issues reported for using fully synthetic motul, i think in trivandrum g2g but for other bikes. let me assume your problem is oil related. then Ester based oils (motul ) are the best, which means they stick to parts like mad. that's what a good oil should do. but ninja has a oil pump which has to pump the oil up the engine. may be your motul may be sort of creating little resistance to this operation combined with the stock oil filter not capable enough to handle the high quality oil a smooth passage.

so you loose top end + a little rough feel.

solution .. if all else fails to resolve your issue then you may drain oil keep it safe along with the oil filter. put in new filter with bajaj dts-si oil. check the ride. if there is no difference you can revert back to motul + oil filter. else you can ride on.

no panic reaction please. you need to think of the oil solution only after you have exausted all other avenues.

may be by now your bike is okay.

Yes sir this what I am getting, low top end and little roughness + less acceleration as compared to earlier. But,inputs given by some members and searching over the net,bike must feel smooth and accelerate faster throughout the rev range when using semi synthetic motul.
Just came back from the PBK,got the chain alignment correct and got it cleaned and lube completly but no difference.
I too think there is nothing wrong with the bike but something is just there which is obstructing its performance.
Motul Semi synth users can tell their experience with the same.
N_aditya was using the same, buddy you shed some light here.

@kariznin I am extremely sorry for the ignorance. I haven't noticed your original query and not online these days...

I have noticed the same....
I changed the oil in the 2nd service to Motul 5100. I felt the delay and difference in the top end. Was unable to point it to anything or found any such issues reported anywhere else. I thought it was just me or the change in my driving style and was not much interested in testing the top end.

I am not an expert to judge the changes, so an expert has to test and check. Until then my report is invalid... but what ever you said was the same I felt, after the 2nd service.

I am facing the same issues with my bike. Although, I have never really achieved a speed of more than 140. Yesterday morning, I was on the highway with the throttle fully open on 6th gear for quite some time but could still achieve only 135 or so. I didn't pay attention to the RPM though. I was fully crouched with a tight-fit jacket so the wind-resistance should have been minimum. Don't know what the issue is? I am as clueless as you.

IMHO, the RPM to speed ratios should be the same always, unless the clutch is slipping. If there is external resistance, like wind, engine oil, low tyre pressure - the RPM would not rise - the bike should always be at the same speed at a certain RPM and gear combination.

I noticed a lot of discussion on Engine oil for the Ninja. Has anyone tried the Bardahl engine oil additive? I used them on all my cars, and my previous bike (Avenger 200) and I can vouch for it, it definitely works! I haven't tried it yet for my Ninja as I'm yet to have the 1st service done (650 kms away frm 1st svc). Would love to know if anyone has tried it. For the record, I intend to, if it's perfectly safe for the bike (which I feel is no harm).

ALL new bikes smell like something's burning once the engine heats up - it's the excess paint etc that's being burned. The smell will stop once you cross 500km. I have no clue why this happens; will try finding out.

Edit: just read the bit about your odo being at 1700km. Do you have any smoke from the exhaust when you cold start? Either white or black? Please check and let me know?

Try not to come to a standstill in second or third - conventional wisdom states that you stay in the right gear for the speed. So, if you're going to stop, you should end up in first when you're at walking pace. I know this sounds like a silly way out, but most motorcycle problems are down to rider error. If this is hard to believe, you already know that the Ninja gearbox takes a 'manly' tap to slot into the next gear - and try shifting gears on any bike when it's standing still. They'll go from neutral to first (maybe second) but beyond that you'll have to move the rear wheel to engage the next gear.

The palm tingling is one of two things: 1. You're putting too much weight on the bars. Check this with the following - are your elbows bent while riding? When you go over a large speedbreaker, do you also 'rotate' just as much as the bike, or do your arms and legs act as a second set of shock absorbers to keep your torso steady? If you took your hands off the handlebars while riding, would there be a lot more strain on your back?
That last question will tell you perfectly if you're putting too much weight on the bars. If you are, it's a bad thing, and not just because of tingly palms.

I don't like Prasanna saying that everything's okay, but he DOES have a very good point about taking another rider's input - he's rightly asking you to take a second opinion. Ask someone experienced on this forum from your city to ride your bike and give their inputs. It won't take much effort and time, and it'll put your doubts to rest.

I'm an Ardent believer in engine oil additives myself, and all my friends have got STP or Bardahl additives in their cars. I even use it in the Access, but in motorcycles, the engine oil also bathes the clutch, innit? And if you're going to have an extra layer of slippery goo between your clutch plates, it's only going to mean reduced friction. It's the same thing if you overfill engine oil - ultimately you're looking at clutch slippage, however minor. So, no more additive for my motorcycles.

I filled YamaLube 15W 50 SS...(Yamalube is manufactured by Motul)...and has run approx. 1000 KM after change in my ZMR has not find any issue...bike engine has become more smooth...

Can you let me know from where have you purchased a Motul Oil in Delhi...i want to try it again after next service..

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Not an issue buddy, it's that you have given in your views here. Thanks
I also suspect the oil here but I did feels this just before the oil change also.
I zero down all the possible things need to rectify this problem.
Now, first in place the engine oil and secondly the worst case scenario clutch slippage. But, after getting your views it might be the oil.
Tomorrow will be going to the PBK as regional manager will be there and will look into this issue and nothing goes right I'll switch to Bajaj oil and check again.

Earlier, my bike could easily do 150KMPH in upright position but now struggles to do 140KMPH even if I am crouched in.
What engine oil brand and grade are you using bro?

I verified from the Motul CC in Mumbai from where could I get genuine oil in Delhi. So, I contacted in Regional manager here and found the genuine dealership in Delhi.
It is Dhamija Auto in Karol Bagh and Deepak Automobiles just opposite to that. I got mine from Dhamija Auto. Both are direct dealers of Motul and get Motul products from Motul distributors here in Delhi.
I also got Motul oil for ZMA from here only and it is going fine.

^^ anyone??????