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**rreneav1987** · 11-13-2014, 03:06 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by Dr.Hemant Gajendra View Post

@rreneav1987 whats the difference between H4 and HB4 coz HB4 is available for Rs.5000 only
also H1,H3,H7,H8,H11 and HB3 and 5k
whats the difference between them all are 35w and 4300k
see the link
SMART Hb4 35W (4300K) Slim Canbus BI-Xenon H/L HID Conversion Kit. | Auto Trends

HB4 looks like in the below pic

the H4 bulbs look like in the below

**Dr.Hemant Gajendra** · 11-13-2014, 03:07 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

There are no cars <30L that come with HIDs. For them, you have ze germans!
Skoda's halogen projectors are good, but they're 8k a piece.
Maruti doesn't sell Wagon R Stingray's projector as a SKU, you've to buy the whole headlamp assy. Didn't bother asking the price.

P220 never came with HIDs. Low beam = H7 halogen + projector; high beam = H7 halogen + reflector.

okies your message was like "apni aaukat me raho " types

well actually here in raipur chor bazar type place is there so was asking if it is there in any car which is having that
anyways will add this thing what [MENTION=27501]rreneav1987[/MENTION] is telling if possible

thanks for the answer [MENTION=41586]Divya Sharan[/MENTION]

**bala242** · 11-13-2014, 03:07 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Friend I'm confused between cree U2 cree U5

15w light flux:3000 illumination

If two2x3000=6000LMW

Lok one indian brought two he must be xbhpian

**Dr.Hemant Gajendra** · 11-13-2014, 03:14 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

HB4 looks like in the below pic

the H4 bulbs look like in the below

so can this be fitted inside projectors
any of them??????????????????

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[MENTION=41586]Divya Sharan[/MENTION]
if pulsars dont use hid in their projectors cant we use simple bulbs inside projectors
asked the same thing to [MENTION=27501]rreneav1987[/MENTION] he said he tried too but didnt succeded

**rreneav1987** · 11-13-2014, 03:15 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by Dr.Hemant Gajendra View Post

so can this be fitted inside projectors
any of them??????????????????

Unfortunately you cant. the projector bulbs are different.

below pic for an example

**Dr.Hemant Gajendra** · 11-13-2014, 03:16 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

So I have to take out the projectors and angel eye setup

**Dr.Hemant Gajendra** · 11-13-2014, 03:18 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

I dont want this to happen
I mean i like these angel eyes very much
They have added looks to my red bull

**Divya Sharan** · 11-13-2014, 03:21 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by Dr.Hemant Gajendra View Post

So I have to take out the projectors and angel eye setup

Yes, you can have a halogen bulb inside projectors. BUT,
1. The projector lens should be able to fit over your halogen bulbs in terms of length and width.
2. They should be wide enough to not scatter the light upon switching beams.

Normal HIDs (Chinese/local) use 2.5-2.8 inch projector lenses. Try sourcing a standalone projector lens (without HID/any bulb) which is 3-3.5 inches and you'd have the best setup in the world.

P.S - P220 projectors aren't sold seperately either. You've to buy the full front dome.

**rreneav1987** · 11-13-2014, 03:29 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

Yes, you can have a halogen bulb inside projectors. BUT,
1. The projector lens should be able to fit over your halogen bulbs in terms of length and width.
2. They should be wide enough to not scatter the light upon switching beams.

Normal HIDs (Chinese/local) use 2.5-2.8 inch projector lenses. Try sourcing a standalone projector lens (without HID/any bulb) which is 3-3.5 inches and you'd have the best setup in the world.

P.S - P220 projectors aren't sold seperately either. You've to buy the full front dome.

I tried this setup, but it didn't work as expected, so my suggestion is it would be a waste of time

**SparKot** · 11-13-2014, 03:30 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

There is no point in investing bulbs with colour temp more than 4300K.

H4 are apparently a direct fit to most Px43t/P43 sockets.

check this under product listings : Philips Lighting India - Xenon HID conversion kit - Philips

Philips Xenon HID conversion kit 858154K Conv. Bulb H4 H/L 4200K 85815 P43

**Divya Sharan** · 11-13-2014, 04:15 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

I tried this setup, but it didn't work as expected, so my suggestion is it would be a waste of time

Not quite! I myself tried doing it on my bike in Chennai, where I sourced an old projector lens from Thousand Lights area for a measly 350 rupees. It was meant for H7 bulbs but I could even attach an H7-H4 converter and fit it in. But, I didn't have any means to fit it in, hence I left the idea. Plus the bike was only 5-6 months old. Lost the lens plus other stuff while shifting to BLR.

It's not a waste of money if you have the right stuff. Time, maybe some!

**Dr.Hemant Gajendra** · 11-13-2014, 04:20 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

Yes, you can have a halogen bulb inside projectors. BUT,
1. The projector lens should be able to fit over your halogen bulbs in terms of length and width.
2. They should be wide enough to not scatter the light upon switching beams.

Normal HIDs (Chinese/local) use 2.5-2.8 inch projector lenses. Try sourcing a standalone projector lens (without HID/any bulb) which is 3-3.5 inches and you'd have the best setup in the world.

P.S - P220 projectors aren't sold seperately either. You've to buy the full front dome.

Where in this world will i get these?

**Divya Sharan** · 11-13-2014, 04:26 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by Dr.Hemant Gajendra View Post

Where in this world will i get these?

Junkyard..

**Dr.Hemant Gajendra** · 11-13-2014, 04:33 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Do u remember of which car it was?

**rreneav1987** · 11-13-2014, 04:45 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

Not quite! I myself tried doing it on my bike in Chennai, where I sourced an old projector lens from Thousand Lights area for a measly 350 rupees. It was meant for H7 bulbs but I could even attach an H7-H4 converter and fit it in. But, I didn't have any means to fit it in, hence I left the idea. Plus the bike was only 5-6 months old. Lost the lens plus other stuff while shifting to BLR.

It's not a waste of money if you have the right stuff. Time, maybe some!

Maybe doing a Jugaad would help provided that the solenoid motor isn't there.. the HID Projectors are difficult to convert into a normal projector as the dimensions to hold the bulb is insufficient.. otherwise, get a Projector from the P220 headlight assembly and cut the H4 to the shape of H7 and use it.. also, there is another option which was discussed in one of the DIY whatsapp groups i was a member in.. making use of the P220 solenoid reflector and the projector setup.. the wiring diagram was also shared.. I am planning to get that setup done on my bike later next year... One of my friend is ready to give me his P220's headlight assembly.. I will be making use of that. I might go for a 500 kms ride to get it

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