U can use Castrol Active or Power1. I found them to be best on my RTR. I use Active, as there is no noticeable difference in both. Active costs 200 bucks. I clocked 132 on my RTR and 131 on my bro's Fi whhich i was using for few months.

The difference is inside. FI exhaust doesn't have resonator and I guess Catalytic Coverter too (Correct me if I'm wrong). This makes RTR FI's sound more heavier than Carbed RTR. And the difference in punch is easily noticeable in open space.

actually i think the refresh makes just a bit more hp than the first gen rtr...due to the different exhaust.

ya i checked it by the method u told and it seems from inside...
i'll prefer to get it done by my local mech....u know hw TVS guys work...



yes the same high pitched noice m getting but now it's more pronounced tht's it...so i think tht's not the cause of worry....

and thanks to nox and you backin it tht the fuel pump varies the pumping of fuel...

so m tension free now....thanks......


regarding the fuel filter i thought to change it at 4000kms went to the showroom and the guy told me it'll cost me 5000 bucks....
i was like are u mad or what he was too "busy" on tht day so i came not confirming it's real price...could u plz lemme knw and i'll check here too....

the fuel filter replacement has to be done at SC as thr's no method to stop the fuel flow from the tank in FI....i dont know what method they'll be adopting to stop it...as i came up with one.....empty the tank and change it or may be clipping the end of pipes and changing it at home....
any more methods to stop the fuel flow......???


the RTR was having resonator...

RTR refresh has CAT but no resonator hence the "backfiring" sound...(and tht's lovely...)

RTR FI is not having the CAT or the resonator so it's the BEST in making AWESOME sound and tht AMAZING backfire....

Hmm... I love the exaust of RTR FI.When ever a RTR passes me i'll chase it to find if its a RTR Fi(Not the orange coloured one it's easly to find it's RTR Fi) My bad luck is the RTR Fi is not too far to hunt till my exams are over ,After that i HUNT It DOWN

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The fuel filter wont cost u more than 100 bucks i think. That showroom might have thought that u want to replace fuel pump.

For replacing fuel filter, just remove intake pipe of filter, hold the flow with thumb. connect new filter and reconnect the hose. u may loose 5-10ml fuel. depends on how u do it.

And though manual says, i dont think fuel filter needs to be changed at every 900kms. Its okey to change at 3000-4000kms.C'mon we dont use such a bad fuel.

Ownership experience Day 2 : Bike is working fine & took the bike to pooja. Afterwords go to office. Afternoon took the bike to lunch, and maybe as disscussed in forum, due to the hot temperature, i feel a small missing in 3rd gear. After lunch return back to office.

Aftr the office, all my colleagues came down to see the orange beast and i was really happy to hear nice comments.
Afterwords, i started back to home. On midway, i notice some sound from front dome cover (like something hitting). So i immediately decide to go to showroom. At a signal i switched off the engine. When greenlight comes, i tried to self start the bike. To my horror, some "krrrrrr" sound is coming and bike isnt starting. Didn wait much and kick started the bike. Bike was ok. Continued the journey to service center. It was already 7pm and eveerybody was leaving the svc.
The mechanic had a sudden insoection and said thatsome relay to starter motor is faulty.

Again when i tried to self start the bike (jus pressing self start for abt 3 seconds), the meter console again keeps on getting restarted.

Showed it to mechanic and the supervisor & also the sales person & throwed some harsh comments. Suddenly everybody takes more attention to bike & they promised me tht bike will be delivered tomorro evening after checking thouroughly.

3 days of ownership & more than 3 visit to service center for repair. Terrible !!!
My RX even if you didn service or change oil for 15k kms, it will carry u without any complaint. Never ever breakdown during my 50k km usage.
There is really no substitute for yamaha !!!



yeah my case is very similar to this. But the bike refuses to start under this condition thru self start. Kick start also mostly wont work during this time.

Now i am confused. Actually the battery symbol was glowing in the console, and the horn and indicators were not working. During that time i tried kickstarting many many times. But it didn start.

To ppl looking forward for RTR Fi :

I really liked the Fi for the sound & looks & also power. But if breakdown, and that too in a rural area, nothing much can be done. Even now lot of things are left to be solved in my 3 days old bike. I sincerely feel tht i should had gone for carb rtr.

Hi All,

I have RTR '07 model...

I am facing a strange problem in my bike !! please plz help ..

I am loosing lot of power after 5.5 K RPM range .. It just stop going ahead..

I feel if some body is holding it from behind...

Some one has faced the same issue.. plz suggest
I am worried....

Disc Brake Problem

As some of you might have read that piston rings of my bike are already changed that too within 10k kms, under warranty replacement.

This time it was front disc brake, I had given the bike in the showroom for a general checkup and DISC Pad replacement.
After the replacement the brake would never get back to its place it got stuck every time. I gave the bike to the showroom guys again, this happened 3 times. I was fed up cause my local mech even could not rectify the problem it would be alright for 10 to 15 kms then again get stuck.
I called the shoroom customer relation officer, they said me to bring the bike. Yesterday i took the bike to the showroom and guess what the Master Cylinder had to be changed under warranty Of course.
I still cant understand that the brake was perfect till the service center changed the pads.

ya i too think the same...........

2000km report and air filter mithai.

Its 2 months and 2000kms of my RTR and report is as follows.

Problems:
1. mudguard hitting silencer: as created by heavy endos and solved by adding 10-15ml fork oil in each tube.
2. gearshift in 1,2 and 3- I rarely feel it to be problem, If i get it to be much hard shifting, just rub the clutchplates on half cluch for 5-10 seconds, and shifting becomes super smooth
3. tack tack noise from cone bearings- i serviced upper bearing and its solved now.

As such now, thr is no problem at all. just hit the starter switch and she is ready to take on any road for any distance.

Efficiency: 52kmpl
Top speed achieved: 132 (speedo)
ST: 3.6 sec (with air filters removed and tuned thr after)


A funny thing occured today, i took her out after 2 days. Had gone to college. was missing the punch, and was feeling really bad exhaust note. After backing home, removed spark plug, it was blackish. cleaned it and reinstalled. then moved to air ilter, and voila, it was full of ants.. yes u are reading right, ANTS. thousands of died ants. just cleaned it with water, then petrol. and refitted. After that, the exhaust note was right, back to real thuump. Havent pushed her hard after that. will do it after last paper of engineering on 8th.

Thats weird man-were you eating something sitting on the bike?

Naaaa. I think my bike lured them.



There is a ring marked on IDI switch rod, which comes out on twisting the accelerator. (same on apache RTR, victor-GL and scooty-pep). i think it is for limit or something. can anyone tell me exactly it is for what?

this burnout theory of urs to clean the plates is first i heard....

i think the mech at the workshop put drops of mustard oil in the filter i think....

Gosh dude, how can you compare a 2 stroker with a 4 stroker? Try doing that with a 4 stroke Yam and see!!

Amazing!! Never heard of such a thing yet! Do you lube the element with a syrup or something?? Its a foam filter, I suppose?