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  • #4951
    Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
    ^^^^

    that's strange prob with the carb...
    thanks for sharing this KAUSHIK....

    one ques:
    is there any diff in the carb of first GEN FIERO and the RTR??
    i mean in the jets or in the whole thing, cuz i never experienced this in my FIERO.
    The problem occurs everytime i clean the carb and vanishes after 500-600 kms. I rode 120 kms in a day at 50-55 and got FE of whoping 58kmpl. On regular riding, i get it between 40-45. The carb always get set between 4 to 4.75 turns. mine is right now 4 turns. Will change air filter, main jet and needle with 180's one soon.

    Thanks Kauria. I desperately need it.

    @Renny, i think the carb is same but BS-26 is not sufficient on RTR160 at higher RPMs.


    Note: My RTR have clocked 11k till date.
    Last edited by nox2505; 12-15-2009, 03:23 PM.
    There's lot to it other than saddle....


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    • #4952
      bros,one prob,my fiero is letout black smoke while raise the throttle what is the prob,actualy i replacd both the valves, guides,and the oilseals

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      • #4953
        Originally posted by remortr View Post
        bros,one prob,my fiero is letout black smoke while raise the throttle what is the prob,actualy i replacd both the valves, guides,and the oilseals
        What about piston rings?
        There's lot to it other than saddle....


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        • #4954
          Originally posted by remortr View Post
          bros,one prob,my fiero is letout black smoke while raise the throttle what is the prob,actualy i replacd both the valves, guides,and the oilseals
          Mean either you set it to higher Co level or your engine is drinking engine oil. Check for the smoke in your palms, if it is sticky kind of then check the valve settings and seals. Also check the eoil level, if it is dropped by huge margin then go slap the SC guys.
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          • #4955
            Originally posted by nox2505 View Post
            The problem occurs everytime i clean the carb and vanishes after 500-600 kms. I rode 120 kms in a day at 50-55 and got FE of whoping 58kmpl. On regular riding, i get it between 40-45. The carb always get set between 4 to 4.75 turns. mine is right now 4 turns. Will change air filter, main jet and needle with 180's one soon.

            Thanks Kauria. I desperately need it.

            @Renny, i think the carb is same but BS-26 is not sufficient on RTR160 at higher RPMs.


            Note: My RTR have clocked 11k till date.
            58kmpl is hell lotta avg you got.....
            my FI blesses me with 45-50 with all sorts of riding....

            there's one golden pin type thing that runs along with the diaphram,make sure you replaced it properly...
            and with 4 turns you're running rich, so it'll eliminate all the high RPM knock, cold starts and all....
            still i'm not able to find the main culprit of this strange prob you reported...

            and yes one more thing, as you mrntioned replacing the main jet with 180's will make the top end good i believe..

            Originally posted by nox2505 View Post
            What about piston rings?
            exactly.
            The Magician"

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            • #4956
              SERVICE MANUAL

              APACHE RTR 160
              http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B-JsUb9IImh5ZDhhMDI2NjgtMzNjNy00OGEyLWFmYWUtZGVjZDE0 MDhlZjgx&hl=en

              APACHE RTR 180
              http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B-JsUb9IImh5YmQyM2M3Y2MtNTE2Yi00ZDA5LWExMDQtMmUzMWQ3 YTQ0NGFh&hl=en
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              • #4957
                My RTR is Young Again !!!!

                UPDATE:
                At 13500 kms, got the speed-o-meter changed because the RPM needle slipped from its ZERO mark to the TVS Racing logo. It had happened once before also, but the SVC guys had opened the meter assembly and reset the needle to zero. It was fine for another 1000 kms till I did a high speed run on the highway. I noticed that whenever I made a high speed run with the tacho needle vibrating like hell, it would get displaced from the ZERO mark. Told this to the SVC Guys and they replaced the whole Assembly. So, after 13500 kms, MY RTR is young again !!!!

                Also got the speed-o-meter housing changed due to cracks in the plastic. Same goes for the chain cover. It too had cracks at the bolt holes. All changed under warranty !!!

                Now planning to get the RTR180's BS-29 carb. Anyone done that? How does that affect the performance?

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                • #4958
                  need suggestions

                  Hi All,
                  MY FI has come back from 4th service. 3 days back. nothing great about the service. But today morning i noticed the front mud gaurd is giving up paint. flakes have started peel off. what should i do ven i go to service center. please suggest.

                  Another problem is my meter goes blank sometimes. Fuel indicators always shows wrong reading. ven brought to the notice of service center they just give the bike back saying there was loose contact on electricals. but i have noticed problem again. what should i say to them ven i go this weekend.

                  if they give option to repaint the mud gaurd should i ask for replacement or paint is fine.

                  Also meter going blank how should i tell them as the problem is not very frequent. i mean in a week may b for 2 or 3 times. please suggest. thanks.

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                  • #4959
                    Originally posted by kauria View Post
                    SERVICE MANUAL

                    APACHE RTR 160
                    http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B-JsUb9IImh5ZDhhMDI2NjgtMzNjNy00OGEyLWFmYWUtZGVjZDE0 MDhlZjgx&hl=en

                    APACHE RTR 180
                    http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B-JsUb9IImh5YmQyM2M3Y2MtNTE2Yi00ZDA5LWExMDQtMmUzMWQ3 YTQ0NGFh&hl=en
                    I won't ask you from where you got it. I'll just say Thanks a million, coz most of the points for FI owners are referred to this manual...
                    Yes....

                    I'm still Alive...

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                    • #4960
                      need suggestions

                      Hi All,
                      MY FI has come back from 4th service. 3 days back. nothing great about the service. But today morning i noticed the front mud gaurd is giving up paint. flakes have started peel off. what should i do ven i go to service center. please suggest.

                      Another problem is my meter goes blank sometimes. Fuel indicators always shows wrong reading. ven brought to the notice of service center they just give the bike back saying there was loose contact on electricals. but i have noticed problem again. what should i say to them ven i go this weekend.

                      if they give option to repaint the mud gaurd should i ask for replacement or paint is fine.

                      Also meter going blank how should i tell them as the problem is not very frequent. i mean in a week may b for 2 or 3 times. please suggest. thanks.

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                      • #4961
                        Recently in my trip to Maharastra visited the TVS service center in Chipulan, Shinde TVS.

                        As my oil seal was gone, they fixed in no time & even lubed my chain, the best thing was that they are using the chain spray, which many of the people in HYD service centers doesn't know. Even the guy told me to buy the Castrol spray not TVS one.

                        To my enquiry they told me that they are using the chain spray from the launch of open chain models & it is compulsory requirement of the service center.

                        Even i tried to tip the guy who has worked on my machine, but he straight away refused to take.

                        They charged 20rs for oil seal, 30 rs for chain lubing & 20 for labour charges.

                        A very spl thanks to Shinde TVS, Chipulan for their immediate attention to my bike & was very pleased with their response.
                        Give way to trains.

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                        • #4962
                          Originally posted by TorQ View Post
                          Hi All,
                          MY FI has come back from 4th service. 3 days back. nothing great about the service. But today morning i noticed the front mud gaurd is giving up paint. flakes have started peel off. what should i do ven i go to service center. please suggest.

                          Another problem is my meter goes blank sometimes. Fuel indicators always shows wrong reading. ven brought to the notice of service center they just give the bike back saying there was loose contact on electricals. but i have noticed problem again. what should i say to them ven i go this weekend.

                          if they give option to repaint the mud gaurd should i ask for replacement or paint is fine.

                          Also meter going blank how should i tell them as the problem is not very frequent. i mean in a week may b for 2 or 3 times. please suggest. thanks.
                          kindly reply everyone. im completely confused

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                          • #4963
                            Originally posted by kauria View Post
                            SERVICE MANUAL

                            APACHE RTR 160
                            http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B-JsUb9IImh5ZDhhMDI2NjgtMzNjNy00OGEyLWFmYWUtZGVjZDE0 MDhlZjgx&hl=en

                            APACHE RTR 180
                            http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B-JsUb9IImh5YmQyM2M3Y2MtNTE2Yi00ZDA5LWExMDQtMmUzMWQ3 YTQ0NGFh&hl=en

                            Thanks a Lot Kauria! You got the treasure for us.
                            There's lot to it other than saddle....


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                            • #4964
                              Originally posted by vishnuu View Post
                              Recently in my trip to Maharastra visited the TVS service center in Chipulan, Shinde TVS.

                              As my oil seal was gone, they fixed in no time & even lubed my chain, the best thing was that they are using the chain spray, which many of the people in HYD service centers doesn't know. Even the guy told me to buy the Castrol spray not TVS one.

                              To my enquiry they told me that they are using the chain spray from the launch of open chain models & it is compulsory requirement of the service center.

                              Even i tried to tip the guy who has worked on my machine, but he straight away refused to take.

                              They charged 20rs for oil seal, 30 rs for chain lubing & 20 for labour charges.

                              A very spl thanks to Shinde TVS, Chipulan for their immediate attention to my bike & was very pleased with their response.
                              nice to read that...
                              TVS is coming up good in this areas now....
                              The Magician"

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                              • #4965
                                Hola a todos!!

                                I need the Service Manual for the RTR 160 that has the recommendations and show the functioning and the periodic maintenance of the motorcycle.
                                If someone can say to me where to find it...

                                Thank you very much!

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