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  • Originally posted by killtheking View Post

    I'm facing a problem with idling. like if my have my bike rested for a couple of hours, and then start it, the idling wont stay and the bike goes off unless i keep accelerating, but after riding for a couple of kms it gets normal and the idling stays at 1.2... are you guys facing the same problem..? couldnt find this issue in the thread.

    Please give me some suggestion.. i asked TVS show room they said, all FI bikes having same problem. And they tried setting the idling rpm to 1.4k also, which didn't help.I have got 2 services done already. thanks.
    Your Injector may be clogged too, how they adjusted the RPM, they used that PC diagnostic tool or not?

    Originally posted by indianz_alive View Post
    Seldomly, but yes. But the sluggish region is between 2200-3000rpm.
    You got your injector cleaned till now or not?
    The Magician"

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    • Originally posted by julianpaul View Post
      crap, i should have been clearer. I was in kerala and i saw your posts on buying the 220 on xbhp.
      ohh.....my bad! Its a decision i regret.....should have gone for the R15!

      Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
      Very good average you're getting there, more petrol more roaming theory used to apply to me too, but that was 3 years before

      Used to apply to me too when the bike was brand new. Its does now since the bike is almost restored to its stock performance

      Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
      @Satish

      I didn't know that you had sold off the P220. When and why?
      Had problems with onewya clutch, battery, vibes (huge), clutch, brakes and most importantly the CARB. and add to it poor service and lack of mech's @ pbk. I needs lot of paitance to get the work done by these guys which i did'nt have.

      Heck, i left the bike with them for 15-20days, they call me and say the issue's are fixed, i go there take a testdrive and its still there. They broke their heads still could'nt fix it. I simply did'nt have time to raom around pbk and get those guys to work (lazy a@@'s). Decided enough is enough during a short ride to my friends collage. Bike used to shut down for every 1-2km at speeds above 80kmph.

      Sold it, and am back to my RTR! dont hink i'll get myself a new bike in near future. Bro has plans to by himself a ZMA (wat more can i ask for?)

      Originally posted by nox2505 View Post
      What about this iftex system purge? Can anyone elaborate on usage directions?
      IFTEX OIL & CHEMICALS LTD.
      I had used it once and it does the job pretty well!

      Originally posted by Puneet1 View Post
      when i switch on bike and switch on either the pilot lights or main headlamp , the neutral lamp gets a bit dim in both cases and sometimes even flickers at even 1400 RPM idel . but if lights are switched off then its ok . can anyone confirm if it happens to other RTR/fi/180 's as well .
      I still have this problem, I just dont bother abt it anymore!
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      • Originally posted by onlinesatish View Post


        I had used it once and it does the job pretty well!



        How to use it? the usage directions they have provided are not sufficient.
        There's lot to it other than saddle....


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        • Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
          You got your injector cleaned till now or not?
          Used Bardahl Engine Klene about 3K kms back.
          Yes....

          I'm still Alive...

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          • Originally posted by onlinesatish View Post



            Had problems with onewya clutch, battery, vibes (huge), clutch, brakes and most importantly the CARB. and add to it poor service and lack of mech's @ pbk. I needs lot of paitance to get the work done by these guys which i did'nt have.

            Heck, i left the bike with them for 15-20days, they call me and say the issue's are fixed, i go there take a testdrive and its still there. They broke their heads still could'nt fix it. I simply did'nt have time to raom around pbk and get those guys to work (lazy a@@'s). Decided enough is enough during a short ride to my friends collage. Bike used to shut down for every 1-2km at speeds above 80kmph.

            Sold it, and am back to my RTR! dont hink i'll get myself a new bike in near future. Bro has plans to by himself a ZMA (wat more can i ask for?)

            Damn, you have gone through a lot of pain.

            ZMA is a nice bike, though and you can always upgrade to a bigger bike from RTR.Isn't it!!

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            • Originally posted by onlinesatish View Post
              ohh.....my bad! Its a decision i regret.....should have gone for the R15!

              Had problems with onewya clutch, battery, vibes (huge), clutch, brakes and most importantly the CARB. and add to it poor service and lack of mech's @ pbk. I needs lot of paitance to get the work done by these guys which i did'nt have.

              Heck, i left the bike with them for 15-20days, they call me and say the issue's are fixed, i go there take a testdrive and its still there. They broke their heads still could'nt fix it. I simply did'nt have time to raom around pbk and get those guys to work (lazy a@@'s). Decided enough is enough during a short ride to my friends collage. Bike used to shut down for every 1-2km at speeds above 80kmph.
              Wow, these problems make the RTR/FIs look like nothing! But given all the positive reviews about the carb 220, looks like you just got a lemon. Pretty sure in the end it comes down to luck. There's only so much a person can do himself, rest comes down to fate no matter how much you dislike it.

              About the R15, i feel the same way. But not with the 220 even the RTR! Because if you really think about it, the package you get for the price you get it at is unbeatable. I have really stupid decision making reasons for buying/not buying vehicles. For my FI it was not the looks, performance, price or tech. It was the blue LCD! and for not buying the 15 was the full fairing. Figured it would be a vandal magnet. Yeah, i know it was stupid to think that way in bombay that too. But now you see 15s a dime a dozen parked in every little galli. Exclusive, niche product my ass!

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              • Originally posted by julianpaul View Post
                . But now you see 15s a dime a dozen parked in every little galli. Exclusive, niche product my ass!


                Yamaha nailed it with R15 even with it's high price tag for a 150cc, and now it gives compitition to PULSARS with "hey!!!! look i own one too" department
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                • my bro is planning to get an RTR160 Fi, within a weeks time (RTR 180,even though better is ruled out cuz of its mileage)i wanted to know if all the the problems which the RTR Fi (first batches)have been solved like the loss of power at 2000-3000 rpm.also he wants too add the rear fender of the RTR 180,the RTR logo on the tank scoops.how much will these cost? and he also wants to switch to tubeless tyres,should he switch to the RTR180's tyres or buy a different brand?he wants the exact size of RTR 180's tyres front 90/90 and rear 110/80(correct me if i am wrong),which brand should he go for?will the the above sectioon tyres affect the mileage or performance?

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                  • Originally posted by nox2505 View Post
                    How to use it? the usage directions they have provided are not sufficient.
                    I just mixed one pouch of iftex for every 2-3ltrs of petrol. thats it. It was actually suggested by the SVC. They gave me 2 box's of iftex as a compliment. I just used for thy tirupathi trip and threw the rest away!

                    Originally posted by julianpaul View Post
                    Wow, these problems make the RTR/FIs look like nothing! But given all the positive reviews about the carb 220, looks like you just got a lemon. Pretty sure in the end it comes down to luck. There's only so much a person can do himself, rest comes down to fate no matter how much you dislike it.
                    True bro, It was a gift from my dad and bro, They asked me to take any bike that i want, be it a platina or a R15. i choose 220 carb (initally it was FI) so that the burden is less on them. Its just my sheer bad luck that i ended up with this problamatic bike. 220 is a good bike, no doubt abt it as a over all package. But few things irritated me and esp the service. I thought not to sell it as it was a gift but seeing me struggling with the pbk guys, dad himself suggested me to sell it off and get anyother bike. So i did that but did'nt book any other bike.

                    Did'nt go for the R15 only becoz of its cost and nothing else!

                    Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post


                    Yamaha nailed it with R15 even with it's high price tag for a 150cc, and now it gives compitition to PULSARS with "hey!!!! look i own one too" department
                    nah.....that would be fz/fazer. I can see more no of fz/fazers in my area that splendor's these days

                    Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
                    Damn, you have gone through a lot of pain.

                    ZMA is a nice bike, though and you can always upgrade to a bigger bike from RTR.Isn't it!!
                    yep.....whats frustrating is that i always end up having problem with my bike. First with RTR and now 220

                    I dont think i'll upgrade anytime soon. lost the itch to rip/drag and enjoy monstorus power! Sufficent power is more than enough for me now. Got myself a Rx135, will restore it and use it for the timebeing along with RTR.

                    Hope i dont have trouble with RX135
                    Last edited by onlinesatish; 04-15-2010, 11:07 PM.
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                    14 Ford Figo 1.4 TDCI (Now Caged:( )
                    16 Scooty Zest
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                    • Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post


                      Yamaha nailed it with R15 even with it's high price tag for a 150cc, and now it gives compitition to PULSARS with "hey!!!! look i own one too" department
                      This might be a bit OT but even though the R15 is a nice bike and all, what would it cost these jackasses to bring out a friggin twin cylinder? All it needs is an extended crank, respective bearings, con-rod, piston and 2nd block. Add a throttle body, and the required reworked electrical system for the ignition, and you're done!

                      Originally posted by pranav_salieri View Post
                      my bro is planning to get an RTR160 Fi, within a weeks time (RTR 180,even though better is ruled out cuz of its mileage)i wanted to know if all the the problems which the RTR Fi (first batches)have been solved like the loss of power at 2000-3000 rpm.also he wants too add the rear fender of the RTR 180,the RTR logo on the tank scoops.how much will these cost? and he also wants to switch to tubeless tyres,should he switch to the RTR180's tyres or buy a different brand?he wants the exact size of RTR 180's tyres front 90/90 and rear 110/80(correct me if i am wrong),which brand should he go for?will the the above sectioon tyres affect the mileage or performance?
                      The missing problem was traced to the first set of injectors, TVS came out with a replacement injector kit for the affected bikes and all later models came with proper injectors. There have been a few cases of missing even on the new injectors in very hot weather, but it's really not a big issue. The rear fender of the 180 can definitely be added. The rtr logo is not just on the scoops, it's partly on the tank. If you can get the svc center to sell you the stickers, then you can apply them yourself. TVS tyres are plain and simple crap, so the 180's tyres are no better. Front 90/90-17" look at the mrf coming on the 220 carb. for the rear on the FI, which is an 18" rim, you have limited options. Or change the rim to the 180's 17" and you have a load of 17" tubeless tyre options. The wider the tyre, the less the fuel efficiency and performance so only go as wide as grip requires. Anyway, I think the fuel efficiency difference between the 180 and the FI would be like 5kmpl so i would suggest going for the 180. Or the R15 (i'm so gonna get my arse whooped by this forum)

                      Originally posted by onlinesatish View Post
                      Did'nt go for the R15 only becoz of its cost and nothing else!
                      If you look at it objectively, the package you get with the 15, which also includes a whole diff level of quality as compared to the rest of the indian bikes is worth the price much more than the ~75k yo would pay for the competition.
                      Last edited by julianpaul; 04-15-2010, 11:10 PM.

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                      • fuel injections dont have the cold start issues thats another reason and throttle response is way better...how much will a 17 inch rim cost?i am asking whether The RTR 180's tyres if put on a 160 Fi,will there be a drop in efficiency? r15 is ruled out cuz its smaller than apache! and the seating is more aggressive!

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                        • Originally posted by pranav_salieri View Post
                          fuel injections dont have the cold start issues thats another reason and throttle response is way better...how much will a 17 inch rim cost?i am asking whether The RTR 180's tyres if put on a 160 Fi,will there be a drop in efficiency? r15 is ruled out cuz its smaller than apache! and the seating is more aggressive!
                          The 180's 17" rim costs around 3k. The 180's rear tyre cannot be directly put on the FI because it uses an 18" rear rim. and yes, if you upsize any bike from a 100 section to a 110, there will be a (marginal) decreasy in perf and eff).

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                          • Originally posted by julianpaul View Post
                            If you look at it objectively, the package you get with the 15, which also includes a whole diff level of quality as compared to the rest of the indian bikes is worth the price much more than the ~75k yo would pay for the competition.
                            Being an R15 owner, I beg to differ!! Quality is no different.... Its only the handling package thats worth the premium.... Service is worse than others - TVS/BAJAJ from my experience. And this bike is sooooo finicky, that u will be tearing ur hair out every-time something as small as a tire change is done!! But heck, even with all these problems it feels like the bikes on rails.

                            Anyways, we are going way OT on the RTR thread. Lets keep the rest to PM's and quit it.

                            @pranav_salieri: U can make it tubeless. Am not sure of 110/80 rears in 18-inch. Front is 17-inch and u have a myriad set of options... and no u CANNOT fit the R15/RTR 180 rears on RTR 160 as its an 18-nch rear while the rest are 17-inch rear.
                            Democracy is when 2 wolves and a sheep meet to decide who is for dinner. Liberty is when the sheep has a gun.

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                            • even honda servicing sucks!!!!!!! ok then plz suggest a set of good tubeless tyres for the RTR 160 Fi,which can be a direct fit without any mods,doesnt matter even if the rear is 100/80 section but the main point is tubeless!!

                              @renny

                              are you using stock tyres?how much did that rear fender cost???

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                              • Originally posted by onlinesatish View Post

                                nah.....that would be fz/fazer. I can see more no of fz/fazers in my area that splendor's these days

                                .......

                                Got myself a Rx135, will restore it and use it for the timebeing along with RTR.

                                Hope i dont have trouble with RX135

                                When you got it???
                                and for how much bucks??kms done??
                                Originally posted by julianpaul View Post

                                The rtr logo is not just on the scoops, it's partly on the tank. If you can get the svc center to sell you the stickers, then you can apply them yourself.

                                Yes, they are freely available, there are loads of 160 owbers in INDORE who have done that stickering job.

                                Anyway, I think the fuel efficiency difference between the 180 and the FI would be like 5kmpl so i would suggest going for the 180. Or the R15

                                BAng on!!!!!
                                CHICANE reported 40-45, i get 40-45 too(with shifts at 6000RPM though)
                                Originally posted by pranav_salieri View Post

                                @renny

                                are you using stock tyres?how much did that rear fender cost???
                                I'm running on the stock setup, if you want a tubeless rear without changing the alloy, go for the tyre of ZMR.
                                The rear fender cost me 275 plus 50 for labour.
                                The Magician"

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