Honda Unicorn Dazzler Skidding Problem

I have been riding this Honda Unicorn Dazzler for sometime now and I have skid and fallen from this bike many a times. This never happened with previous bikes. So, I guess there is something wrong with the bike and not the way I drive.

As usual, I can't show the mechanic that how it skids because it would skid only occasionally and they would say all is well with the bike.

The bike skids even at very low speeds, say 40 kmph. And I am kind of scared to rid the bike.

Any insight on the issue and how it can be fixed would be immensely helpful.

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thanks..

I will go for Zapper FY then

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Have you ridden bikes equipped with rear disc brakes before? Do you use your rear brake more than the front?

Maybe you need to read a bit on how to brake effectively - Skills Of Braking | Power1 MAX Academy : Powered by Castrol Power1

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Can anybody tell that why my Dazzy is wavering in the front a lot. I have got the changed the Fork oil to Motul and changed the steering cone kit, it worked fine the next day but today it has come back to the same issue, is it wheel alignment or bent T or Fork Tube?

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How many kms has your bike covered ? What do you mean by wavering ? Does the handle bar 'flap' when u touch say 40kmph or more.. or does it pull towards one side ?
First get the simpler things checked like :
0. Sit on the bike and place your hands on the handle bar, hold down the front brake and try to push the bike forward - do you notice any 'loseness' i.e. play especially at the T
1. Tire Pressure (sometimes even a bad tire, not necessarily worn tire can cause a wobble)
2. Wheel bearings
3. Rim bend
4. In my experience, not all mechanics are apt at setting up the 'cone-set' ... the 'cone-set' is a combination of 'races' and ball-bearings.. sometimes the mechanics do not tap the races correctly in to place and this will create a problem or they over or under tighten the nuts. And I assume you used genuine parts and not some 'compatible' cone-set kit.

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Hi there,

Let's do this one by one,

Bike has covered 32826 kms as i write now. Wavering equals to a slight wobble or pulling of the whole left or right when braking or passing over bumps. Not exactly 'flap' but wavers on conditions i mentioned earlier.

Now the others:
Number 0 is ruled out coz i have done the first day it happened.
Number 1 Tyre pressure is always optimum on my bike and the tyre has good amount of thread.
Number 2 Wheel Bearings are new
Number 3 Rim Bend that too slight on both front and rear, is as old as around a year and this problem is since last Sunday.
Number 4 Correct, henceforth i have not changed my mechanic who works at Honda SVC and was trained by them to service the CBR 250 as well. It is he who had replaced the steering cone set when i had returned from lots of touring & outings last year, it was working fine since then. And oh yes! he stills services my old classic P150.

Above all yes i have been using Genuine spares in all my vehicles since day one. Only for optimum performance i have changed the wheel bearings of all my bikes to SKF since a year or so, still working great. And most i use Motul or Gulf products for lubrication and Oils, greasing works are done by Castrol White Grease.

Now tell me guys what could it be?

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Hope the forks were fixed up correctly.. I had posted a video on how to correct a misalignment of forks using a simple method.. let me see if i can find that post and paste it here..




OR probably the cone-set has not been fixed correctly. Doesn't matter if the mech is trained by honda for a cbr1000r , some mechs can simply not get it right the first attempt while fixing the front end especially the cone-set.. Have it dismantled again and check and re-fix, probably the races were not tapped into place correctly (if necessary use new ball bearings / races as necessary and ensure it is well greased)
btw did he use a torque wrench to tighten the nut ? because that's what honda recommends and I have had my coneset replaced at a asc where only two mechs are good at setting up the coneset (and both say 'saaar this is such a time consuming job, i can service 3 vehicles in the time it takes to fix one cone set' .. that's what even my local mechanic said)

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Certainly it doesn't matter but he has got the experience. The whole works was done before me so yes the torque wrench was used, everything done is new. It does take time and he did that type of time, in fact i entered the SVC at around 9.45am, work started at 10, i took it out at 3.30 pm for washing which was another 20 mins. Suggestion wise i'l get dismantled and re-fixed and then put in my observation. Anyways got the neck of the bike tightened as i couldn't risk myself on the road coz turning of the bike was becoming scary.

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Any one tried the MRF Zapper Q at the rear on a Dazzler? From MRF's website it's available as 140/70 for 17 inch rims.

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Monk is right. It's different with rear disc brakes. I learnt to ride on my Dazzler, but used to ride with a rear brake bias initially resulting in frequent falls. You need to get used to them. If you use them in conjunction with front brakes you need to be careful. I eventually learnt to use the front brake more, at one point using them almost exclusively. But with some experience and at different speeds and in different conditions I use both the front and rear depending on the situation. But I'm always aware that if I start braking with the rear and have to slam the front brakes because the bike is not slowing down quickly enough, the rear end of the bike will go light, and with rear brakes fully applied the rear wheel is surely going to lockup and I'm surely going down! On the other hand, if you start with the front brake, you will usually find that's all the stopping power you will ever need and even if you need the rear brake you are in a position to modulate it. So a bit more practice dear friend. Get a feel for the rear brake and how the weight of the bike transfers to the front once you start using the front brake and how the rear brake responds to that. Caution, it is likely to lock up! You'll get it eventually!:-)

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the stock tyres of dazzler are prone to skidding from rear , one way to reduce rear tyre skidding is to change the rear tyre from stock 110x80 to 120x80 or 130x80 i have changed to 120x80 mrf zapper y since 2 years its been a pleasant experience

I recently 1000kms before install a 110x90 to my dazzler .
I tried to fit 120x80 at that time but not possible due to chain touching the tyre.
How u fit that 120x80 tyre

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Has anyone tried the Michelin Sirac rear tyre on a Dazzler? The reviews seem great, but I'm in a fix as to whether I should go for tube typed tyres.

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it was a direct fit no mods , why did u go for 110x90 its not wider it only increases the height of the tyre

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Even I am running 120/80 Zapper Vyde on my rear wheel. Direct fit, no mods. And nothing touches anywhere - everything is perfect.

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Has anyone put broader tyres in the front for dazzler ?