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**R-series** · 06-02-2015, 11:12 PM

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Originally posted by nirvaana View Post

Why do some riders tape their hands?

With sweat and heat within the leather gloves the knuckles are prone to get blisters very easily. It's preferred to wash your hands and then tape them or wear cotton gloves inside. Since these riders ride for long duration, taping is more effective than cotton gloves.

**R-series** · 06-03-2015, 03:00 AM

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Originally posted by The Monk View Post

I think this video pretty much absolves Iannone of any jump start sins.

Have a look

He starts moving before the lights go off, but hasn't gotten out of his box till the lights have gone off.

That is one hell of a start. I saw it around 3-4 times to see if there was a miss

However, for the part in bold - the rule is not to stay in the box while the lights are on, but to stay stationary while they are on. So, he ideally should not move (before the lights go out), whether he's in the box or not. Any bike moving before lights go off is liable to be penalized.

**The Monk** · 06-04-2015, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by R-series View Post

That is one hell of a start. I saw it around 3-4 times to see if there was a miss

However, for the part in bold - the rule is not to stay in the box while the lights are on, but to stay stationary while they are on. So, he ideally should not move (before the lights go out), whether he's in the box or not. Any bike moving before lights go off is liable to be penalized.

As you would read about the rule change with regards to Jump Starts. Movement which gives an advantage will be penalized, but movement for a few mm and then stops is not penalized, since the rider hasn't gained any advantage by moving by those few milimeters.

Till last season any movement would have been penalized not anymore!

In other interesting news. Dovi was latest on the brakes with Rossi second. Both these guys are known to be very hard late brakers. Surprising to see crazy Joe 3rd and Lorenzo 4th. Shows the ducati advantage on the brakes while yamaha have caught up from how it was struggling last year. Also Honda must be having insane problems for Marc to be fifth. He is normally very strong on the brakes.

**chinmayakar** · 06-04-2015, 02:28 PM

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MotoGP News - Rossi, Lorenzo: MotoGP race pace comparison

An interesting read.

**J4rn0** · 06-04-2015, 03:11 PM

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Originally posted by chinmayakar View Post

MotoGP News - Rossi, Lorenzo: MotoGP race pace comparison

An interesting read.

Indeed,
to be fair, when Lorenzo starts like that he leaves behind everybody, not just Rossi; but it is true that Rossi in particular is an old style kind of racer, used to a crescendo of rhythm that culminates in the final laps; this was a mandatory progression only a few years ago, also because tires wouldn't last the entire race at full speed. Whereas nowadays a rider can (=has to) start imediately at 100% and keep full pace until the end.
I wonder if this may change next year with Michelin -- they still can't match the Bridgestone front tire, at the Mugello tests Lorenzo, Marquez and Rossi all crashed losing the front with the Michelin...!

**The Monk** · 06-04-2015, 03:18 PM

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All the bikes were built and setup for Bridgestone's 16.5 tyres and not for Michelins 17 inch tyres. The out profile of the tyre is still similar to the Bridgestone according to reports, that means the much smaller sidewalls and flex.

This is data collection phase, next year's bike will be built around these tyres and will be setup for these tyres. Too early to worry about Michelin quality.

**R-series** · 06-04-2015, 05:39 PM

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Originally posted by The Monk View Post

As you would read about the rule change with regards to Jump Starts. Movement which gives an advantage will be penalized, but movement for a few mm and then stops is not penalized, since the rider hasn't gained any advantage by moving by those few milimeters.

Till last season any movement would have been penalized not anymore!
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Oh yes, I remember that, what I was commenting on is about your post saying "he hasn't gotten out of the box". What I meant to say is that if the bike begins to move ahead even in the box is liable to get you a penalty.

**J4rn0** · 06-05-2015, 03:28 AM

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Originally posted by The Monk View Post

All the bikes were built and setup for Bridgestone's 16.5 tyres and not for Michelins 17 inch tyres. The out profile of the tyre is still similar to the Bridgestone according to reports, that means the much smaller sidewalls and flex.

This is data collection phase, next year's bike will be built around these tyres and will be setup for these tyres. Too early to worry about Michelin quality.

Well, this is actually after the data collection phase which has been going on for so many months now mainly with test riders (Ducati's Pirro was testing extensively the Michelins at Mugello even recently); this is the tire final specification phase -- the top factory riders were testing to help select the final tire structures. The rear is more or less final already, the work was mainly on the front: but the fact that Lorenzo, Rossi and Marquez ALL crashed is definitely a matter of worry at this stage.
Of course they couldn't comment, but it is well known that they were not happy. They stopped testing after the crashes and went home.
I think it will be tough for MIchelin to match the performance of the Bridgestone front, at least in the first year.

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Would you believe that Stoner was withing 20 kms of Borgo Panigale just a few days ago?
And visiting a famous supercar manufacturer that happens to belong, now, to the same industrial group as Ducati...

(courtesy GPOne)

**shelton_jh** · 06-05-2015, 09:43 AM

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Originally posted by J4rn0 View Post

Well, this is actually after the data collection phase which has been going on for so many months now mainly with test riders (Ducati's Pirro was testing extensively the Michelins at Mugello even recently); this is the tire final specification phase -- the top factory riders were testing to help select the final tire structures. The rear is more or less final already, the work was mainly on the front: but the fact that Lorenzo, Rossi and Marquez ALL crashed is definitely a matter of worry at this stage.
Of course they couldn't comment, but it is well known that they were not happy. They stopped testing after the crashes and went home.
I think it will be tough for MIchelin to match the performance of the Bridgestone front, at least in the first year.

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Would you believe that Stoner was withing 20 kms of Borgo Panigale just a few days ago?
And visiting a famous supercar manufacturer that happens to belong, now, to the same industrial group as Ducati...

(courtesy GPOne)

CS on a competitive Ducati once again!!!

Somehow i get this feeling Pedrobot is not going to be with Repsol Honda, but in that case where will he go

**R-series** · 06-05-2015, 08:06 PM

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Technology anyone?

I'm one of those who would die to see these things in flesh. That's why I love nakeds, all that machinery is so exposed on those bikes. My god!
Look at the amount of sensors on that engines.
Previously I used love the Ducati and Honda underseat arrangement, but this slashed exhaust is a beauty. Another reason why I love akras so much. I wish someone gifts me an akrapovic full exhaust system on some occasion.

**mlayzee** · 06-05-2015, 09:12 PM

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Hi everyone... I'm new to this forum so please correct me if I'm wrong... I've been watching moto gp for years now and I've always wondered about one thing.. Usually before taking steep turns, when seen from the front camera view... I feel the front wheel is jammed and the rear wheel drifts.. In the sense if it's a left turn, the handle is slightly turned to right and the bike is bent to left... May be an illusion but I feel the rear wheel drifts before a turn.. Am I right? If yes, can I implement it?

In love with my chick, Gixxer<3

**R-series** · 06-05-2015, 10:51 PM

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Originally posted by mlayzee View Post

Hi everyone... I'm new to this forum so please correct me if I'm wrong... I've been watching moto gp for years now and I've always wondered about one thing.. Usually before taking steep turns, when seen from the front camera view... I feel the front wheel is jammed and the rear wheel drifts.. In the sense if it's a left turn, the handle is slightly turned to right and the bike is bent to left... May be an illusion but I feel the rear wheel drifts before a turn.. Am I right? If yes, can I implement it?

In love with my chick, Gixxer<3

Yes, you're right, but the front wheel doesn't lock (or jam). We call it "bringing out the rear"

No rider in a race situation actually wants that to happen cos it causes tyre wear. What happens is, these bikes run on slicks and have amazing grip level and the way these are ridden the front has more grip than the rear. Now when going into the corner, the rider has to slow down to a certain speed and then turn in. Sometimes the riders turn in before even reaching the optimum speed during braking. That's when the front turns the bike into the corner, but the rear is still at that extra speed, and without the required grip, it slides out.
You can definitely do that on a surface where the grip is less and predictable, like a dirt track. It would be risky to try it on tarmac because to overcome the high grip level you'll have to attain more speed and with speed comes danger. If you get a chance to do track days, that would be best where you can have time on your own without putting by standers into harms way.

**mlayzee** · 06-05-2015, 11:08 PM

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Originally posted by R-series View Post

Yes, you're right, but the front wheel doesn't lock (or jam). We call it "bringing out the rear"

No rider in a race situation actually wants that to happen cos it causes tyre wear. What happens is, these bikes run on slicks and have amazing grip level and the way these are ridden the front has more grip than the rear. Now when going into the corner, the rider has to slow down to a certain speed and then turn in. Sometimes the riders turn in before even reaching the optimum speed during braking. That's when the front turns the bike into the corner, but the rear is still at that extra speed, and without the required grip, it slides out.
You can definitely do that on a surface where the grip is less and predictable, like a dirt track. It would be risky to try it on tarmac because to overcome the high grip level you'll have to attain more speed and with speed comes danger. If you get a chance to do track days, that would be best where you can have time on your own without putting by standers into harms way.

Thanks a lot[emoji16] I will definitely try this if I get a chance to ride on tracks[emoji28]

**R-series** · 06-09-2015, 02:32 AM

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After the Yamaha exhaust, Photo.GP posted the Honda and Ducati exhaust on their FB page. Akrapovics are AWESOME!!

**Makky** · 06-10-2015, 01:06 AM

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It seems that the world's fastest test rider's inputs haven't really helped HRC to develop RC213V in the right direction.

Off topic: Hutchy's supersport win at the IOM TT is a stuff of legends. His leg was somehow (More than 30 ops!!) saved from being chopped off a few years ago and now, a proper win!

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