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**jack_daniels** · 11-01-2015, 03:06 AM

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Originally posted by aditya_YZF-R15 View Post

LOL

i dont even know if i should cry or laugh or write an actual reply or what. so, just lol.

For a second, I had you believe it. Isn't it? Just wonder why JLo didn't celebrate the victory. Does he care for MM? & if so, why? Coz he helped him.

By the way, next year JLo might be going to Ducati. At Yamaha, it's rumoured to be a Rossi-Iannone duo which would make things super exciting. Though these are just rumours. Everyone is getting wary of Lorenzo's irritating personality. That's why no Lorenzo-Marquez or Lorenzo-Iannone team. It's said that Lorenzo can only settle with either Dovi or Pedrosa.

**aditya_YZF-R15** · 11-01-2015, 03:51 AM

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Originally posted by jack_daniels View Post

For a second, I had you believe it. Isn't it? Just wonder why JLo didn't celebrate the victory. Does he care for MM? & if so, why? Coz he helped him.

lol again..

and no, in short, not even for a fraction of a second you had me believe any of your bull contained in almost all post of yours in this thread...pretty sure not even any reasonable rossi fans here in this thread believe your arguments..i bet many of them are probably thinking "lol" or "wtf" in their minds after reading your posts haha

**Makky** · 11-01-2015, 04:09 PM

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Good insight from Chad Reed on Rossi v/s Marquez:

Reed: Rossi and Marquez were literally ready to die at VR46 Ranch | MCN

**mid** · 11-01-2015, 08:04 PM

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Still on Rossi * Marques? Its ktm time!

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**The Monk** · 11-02-2015, 02:13 PM

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Q&A with Shuhei Nakamoto, HRC Executive Vice President - HRC

**Makky** · 11-02-2015, 02:45 PM

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Nakamoto:

front brake lever suddenly received an impact that locked the front tyre, which is the reason for his crash. We believe that this pressure was a result of

The front brake lever has a lever protector/guard. Does it mean that someone in the Repsol Honda garage sabotaged MM's bike even before it left the pits?!

If they have data that front brake lever received an impact, it has come from MM himself.

**xionite** · 11-02-2015, 03:01 PM

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Originally posted by The Monk View Post

Q&A with Shuhei Nakamoto, HRC Executive Vice President - HRC

I would have also liked to hear Nakamoto's response to MM's accusation about Marquez thinking that Rossi made him crash at Argentina.

Does Nakamoto believe that to be true too?

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**Ron Syl** · 11-02-2015, 03:48 PM

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Originally posted by The Monk View Post

Q&A with Shuhei Nakamoto, HRC Executive Vice President - HRC

i was laughing out hard reading this one.

Lines like:
"He had a great battle in his career with many riders, and nobody complained about that." LOL seriously? thats why he was penalized so many times in his career?

"Valentino had an open track in front of him, his lap times were no faster then during the battle with Marc" - True. damage was already done. so no point in rossi pushing to limit.

"True. Because Dani raced fair and beat rossi fair and square. even i was lauding his racing skills because it was rare to see him do these things. Where as Marq has capabilities that are better than Dani and others and It didnt look like marq was trying to go ahead but rather look like sticking to someone.

"We should also look back to Motegi 2010 when Valentino was out of the race for the title but had a great battle with his teammate Jorge" - Again Lor didn cry or report anything i guess. He did say rossi was a bit aggressive and we all know it. Lor pulled of similar and more dangerous moves on Dani in Valencia 2013. Now thats racing.

**The Monk** · 11-02-2015, 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by Makky View Post

Nakamoto:

The front brake lever has a lever protector/guard. Does it mean that someone in the Repsol Honda garage sabotaged MM's bike even before it left the pits?!

If they have data that front brake lever received an impact, it has come from MM himself.

If you see these two pictures, the brake lever is not completely covered by the brake lever guard. It is unlikely that anyone else can press the lever, but not impossible.

Secondly it is not specified whether Rossi's leg hit the lever directly, or Marc's right arm while he had the brakes covered since Rossi had slowed down considerably in the corner as compared to normal riding speeds.

Originally posted by xionite View Post

I would have also liked to hear Nakamoto's response to MM's accusation about Marquez thinking that Rossi made him crash at Argentina.

Does Nakamoto believe that to be true too?

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Haha. You can't expect the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth from a Honda Press release

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Originally posted by Ron Syl View Post

i was laughing out hard reading this one.

Lines like:

"Valentino had an open track in front of him, his lap times were no faster then during the battle with Marc" - True. damage was already done. so no point in rossi pushing to limit.

"True. Because Dani raced fair and beat rossi fair and square. even i was lauding his racing skills because it was rare to see him do these things. Where as Marq has capabilities that are better than Dani and others and It didnt look like marq was trying to go ahead but rather look like sticking to someone.

"We should also look back to Motegi 2010 when Valentino was out of the race for the title but had a great battle with his teammate Jorge" - Again Lor didn cry or report anything i guess. He did say rossi was a bit aggressive and we all know it. Lor pulled of similar and more dangerous moves on Dani in Valencia 2013. Now thats racing.

A few things in response to some of the points you have raised.

- That is a matter of perspective, yours vs Nakamoto!

- If Rossi had the pace, he would have upped it and closed in and done what he does best of racing hard on worn tyres. We have seen Rossi being brilliant in the second half of the race over his entire career and many times this year as well. He didn't have the pace, so he didn't catch Lorenzo. He had quite a few laps to attempt reeling in Lorenzo.

- Apparently Rossi did have a word with Pedrosa as well about the hard racing in Aragon! You seem to have missed the entire season where Marquez was scintillating in qualifying for one lap but couldn't hold the pace for lap after lap in the race, very often crashing as he would lose the front. The number of times we have seen Marquez lose the front and crash or nearly crash this season is not even funny. Again a matter of perceptions, not backed up by fact either ways!

- Lorenzo did complain about Rossi's hard racing in Motegi 2010. So much so that Yamaha had a sitdown with both the riders!

If you look at the same things with a different perspective you will see things very differently. That is why it is good to have 180degree vision and 360 degree perspective

**Makky** · 11-02-2015, 04:59 PM

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Originally posted by The Monk View Post

If you see these two pictures, the brake lever is not completely covered by the brake lever guard. It is unlikely that anyone else can press the lever, but not impossible.

Secondly it is not specified whether Rossi's leg hit the lever directly, or Marc's right arm while he had the brakes covered since Rossi had slowed down considerably in the corner as compared to normal riding speeds.

Hardly any space between the fairing and the protector for a kick to land there considering the fact where VR and his bike were then. MM claimed that VR kicked his front brake lever and Nakamoto is merely supporting it. It's quite clear that it was MM's knee-jerk reaction that caused the tyre to lock up. Not questioning his riding skills or race craft here. This can happen to the very best of racers.

“I didn't expect that he would take off the leg and push my handlebars and my front brake" Marquez said.

**The Monk** · 11-02-2015, 05:05 PM

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Originally posted by Makky View Post

Hardly any space between the fairing and the protector for a kick to land there considering the fact where VR and his bike were then. MM claimed that VR kicked his front brake lever and Nakamoto is merely supporting it. It's quite clear that it was MM's knee-jerk reaction that caused the tyre to lock up. Not questioning his riding skills or race craft here. This can happen to the very best of racers.

Yup. Agree with you, that is why i said unlikely, though not impossible! Check Twitter David Emmett's latest tweets. From 5 minutes back

**xionite** · 11-02-2015, 05:24 PM

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Originally posted by Ron Syl View Post

"We should also look back to Motegi 2010 when Valentino was out of the race for the title but had a great battle with his teammate Jorge"

Nakamoto's example here is irrelevant. Going in to the race at Motegi 2010...

Lorenzo's Championship bid was NOT under threat by Dani Pedrosa who was trailing by over a HUNDRED points.

There were not enough races left for Pedrosa to catch up. BEsides the fact that he was out for THREE races dues to a broken collarbone.

Like i said...

Originally posted by xionite View Post

Dani Pedrosa had injured himself just before Motegi and was more than 125 points behind Lorenzo at the time of the Motegi race.

Pedrosa would have needed to win ALL FIVE races for the rest of the year!

How in the world do you think he'd do that with his collarbone cracked in four places AND a sprained ankle?

Pedrosa was out for the next THREE races. That's 75 points. HE had ZERO chance of winning the championship after his injury.

Jorge Lorenzo's championship bid wasn't under threat at all.

So the THREE points Rossi "took away" from Lorenzo were insignificant.

Originally posted by The Monk View Post

It is unlikely that anyone else can press the lever, but not impossible.

Sure... but in this case, it was impossible for Rossi's leg to have gone thru any sort of "gap" in the brake guard.

If the contact did cause any sort of brake lever being pressed... it was Marquez pressing down on it.

Originally posted by The Monk View Post

Secondly it is not specified whether Rossi's leg hit the lever directly, or Marc's right arm while he had the brakes covered since Rossi had slowed down considerably in the corner as compared to normal riding speeds.

Marquez very cleared said that Rossi's LEG pressed against his lever. He did not say Rossi's leg pressed against his hand. There' video.

So Nakamoto is, quite obviously, simply supporting his rider's statement.
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There is NO gap for Valentino Rossi's leg to press down on Marquez's brake lever.

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**aditya_YZF-R15** · 11-03-2015, 03:20 AM

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MotoGP riders summoned by 'Permanent Bureau'

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/224842/1/motogp-riders-summoned-by-permanent-bureau.html

Dorna and FIM bosses summon MotoGP riders "to address the situation" following Sepang race...

the pre-event press conference has been cancelled. i was looking forward to it :P

**Makky** · 11-03-2015, 02:23 PM

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https://motomatters.com/blog/2015/11/03/editor_s_blog_motogp_s_descent_into_madn.html

**xionite** · 11-03-2015, 02:57 PM

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sure everyone was looking forward to the pre-race press conference.

it would have been epic to watch... but i'm glad it was canned.

the media seems to be making a bigger deal of this situation that it should.

Rossi and Marquez in the same room during a press conference wouldn't be unpleasant at all.

both riders are calm as ever when making statements to the press. it's the media that is making it worse.

i'm glad the pre-press event was canned.

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