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  • Originally posted by Ulti Racer View Post
    OTR price
    R15 - 1.28
    250R - 1.70


    YAMAHA comes with R25 and all they do is bore out the engine and slightly rigid the components to take care of extra power.Do you think it really costs 40k extra.I also mentioned that r15 is overpriced(around 10k-15k in my opinon)
    As per my knowledge the current R15's engine is already a bore out version of a 135cc mill & this is its max limit. I mean this same mill can't be bored out further to make 250cc for sure. Also it is a fat free bike & no further modification can be done to its chassis for accommodating a bigger engine.
    Anyways, eagerly waiting for cbr150.......it would be very interesting to see how does it compares with the r15.
    Last edited by amitmalve; 01-31-2012, 12:48 AM.

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    • @amitmalve
      I just gave the above analogy.It's not a claim that yamaha launches R25.
      May i know first of all from which bike(in which country) did this 135cc mill come from.I thought that is an all new engine.Do you mean the mill came from R125?
      I don't know how tight is the chassis for engine.
      Hope yamaha will come up with r25 soon.
      Yes eagerly waiting for cbr150 after pulsar.Nice competition around there.Customer has become the king in Indian motorcycle market too.
      Last edited by Ulti Racer; 01-31-2012, 07:32 AM.
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      • Yamaha R15's engine is not a bored out one. It is Yamaha vixion with 6 gears.
        And , you think anyone can bore out 100cc more from a 150cc engine..?? I dont think so...
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        • ^^Yes you are right but at first place Yamaha Vixion's mill is only derived from yamaha T135. Obviously no where in the world a 150cc can be bored out to a 250cc. Sorry for the OT.

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          • Friends, can Honda price their upcoming CBR150 below Rs 1 Lakh Mark???
            Don't Honk Unnecessarily

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            • Originally posted by Satyamzma View Post
              Friends, can Honda price their upcoming CBR150 below Rs 1 Lakh Mark???

              Don't think so...on Delhi AutoExpo i talk with the Honda person; he says approx 1.10

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              • Just saw a board at a nearby Honda showroom-Honda CBR15OR Coming soon
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                • Originally posted by Krish1417 View Post
                  Just saw a board at a nearby Honda showroom-Honda CBR15OR Coming soon

                  Bike will launch in April....i wish Honda start taking booking for bike before a launch...so that people interested can get without delay...

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                  • Originally posted by veryhiphop View Post
                    Bike will launch in April....i wish Honda start taking booking for bike before a launch...so that people interested can get without delay...
                    is the launch date confirmed?
                    and the question remains why do i race?
                    every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

                    #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
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                    (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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                    • Originally posted by Ivin View Post
                      Yamaha R15's engine is not a bored out one. It is Yamaha vixion with 6 gears.
                      And , you think anyone can bore out 100cc more from a 150cc engine..?? I dont think so...
                      Yes i agree that one can't bore a engine to 100cc more.Guys the above is just analogy.so most of you think r15 and cbr250 are aptly priced?
                      Whenever i see bikes or cars i see adrenalin pumps instead of people carriers.Thats the way to define an automobile.
                      UltiRacer

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                      • Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
                        is the launch date confirmed?
                        Actual date on confirmed...but surely in month of April 2012

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                        • Originally posted by Ulti Racer View Post
                          Think like this.
                          YAMAHA comes with R25 and all they do is bore out the engine and slightly rigid the components to take care of extra power.Do you think it really costs 40k extra.I also mentioned that r15 is overpriced(around 10k-15k in my opinon)
                          Also as KTM are charging 1.35 otr adding a fairing may cost at max 10k.Even if you think of adding more quality parts it may cost 10k extra or other extra costs it is justifiable to charge 1.5to1.6.
                          ps:i dont know about the localisation at honda or yamaha and these are just my ideas no offence meant to anbody.
                          Originally posted by Ulti Racer View Post
                          Yes i agree that one can't bore a engine to 100cc more.Guys the above is just analogy.so most of you think r15 and cbr250 are aptly priced?
                          Lol. First you say Yamaha will rebore 150 to 250. And then you say one cant bore 100cc more.
                          Make up ur mind for once?

                          As for the first highlighted post. Plonking a 250cc engine on a frame made especially for a 150cc is not easy.
                          Also it takes a lot of research and money to go back to the drawing board and plan everything from scratch to get a 250cc R series bike.

                          Just replacing the engine and strengthening the frame wont do anything. Even the transmission line will need to be altered.
                          And there is a whole lot of calculations that will need to be done regarding suspension/brakes/frame/tyres/ etc which will take atleast 5-6 months to achieve perfection.

                          Also fitting the Duke with a fairing will be of no use unless the fairing actually serves its purpose and has been designed for that specific bike. It takes research to design an efficient fairing and again that costs Money.

                          So its not just about plug and play here. Every component you see on these 1 lac + bikes actually go through a whole lot of R&D compared to everyday commuters!

                          Diasil cylinders and forged pistons dont come cheap. This is why the R15 is 1 lac +
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                          • Let me elaborate on what Nithesh said:
                            R15 can't be rebored to 250cc as it will require around 18mm increase in Bore, if you leave the stroke untouched. Existing cylinder is too thin for a 18mm increase in bore.

                            Even if we talk about a new engine cylinder & head, the Bore increase will definitely give it short stroke like characteristics, which means more & more revving. Most of its OTHER engine components (for example, valve springs) are not suited for even 11.5 krpm redlining. So, can't do that.

                            And if Yamaha changes its stroke too, then its already a new engine. Then same R&D costs, NVH testing, mileage optimization, etc, etc. So, depends on Yamaha whether they want to spend the money...

                            Chassis can match it though I think. Its very much rigid & a "racing line chooser" already. R15's chassis is one of the best I ever rode.
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                            • Btw there is a company that sells a fairing for the 690 duke, am assuming its only a matter of time before they make one for the 200
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                              • =Ulti Racer;769130so most of you think r15 and cbr250 are aptly priced?
                                I think both these bikes are slightly Overpriced....Though i still feel Honda will give Competitive Price tag to its upcoming CBR150R
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