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  • Its definitely artificial demand. I hardly see a Honda bikes on road. Roads here are flooded with Hero Honda and Bajaj bikes. How can Honda's demand be higher than supply?

    Are they planning to manufacture just 2000 CBRs a year? Even something like Honda City is available off the shelf and its supposed to be VERY HIGH in demand.
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    • Originally posted by aargee View Post
      And you know what peaks out? Bookings for Unicorn Dazzler is closed in JSP Honda
      Damn closed?

      What are HMSI honchos thinking?
      I feel like Peter Parker when I drive my Hunk in the city but I become Spiderman when I am on my CBR swinging from one lane to the other on expressways.

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      • Originally posted by aargee View Post
        Huge artificial demand; atleast, that's what it appears to me.
        Well, the showroom guy said that Honda has already reached their target for CBR (not delivery, maybe bookings). Not sure how far this is true.
        And I think the target of 30000 bikes/year was for Worldwide, not just for India.
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        • Originally posted by BladeBoy View Post
          Regarding CBR, Well they are already losing customers! I can see many people jumping to Ninja!
          IMHO, HMSI should be least bothered. Reason? The high cost & maintenance on N250R will burn holes with people who're affordable for N250R.

          Frankly speaking, most international speed limits are around 100-120 Kmph. Even in China, the highways have 90 Kmph as top speed limit. When a vehicle can do that, is affordable & comes from a reputed manufacturer, they're already winning the market.

          In India, C250R is affordable, while in the international market, its providing more value & most importantly, it is FE.

          Only time will tell, if Honda is really having a winning product.

          Originally posted by BladeBoy View Post
          His reason was he found this bike underpowered!
          I don't take these type of reasons for people to switch. When they see N650R, they'll see their N250R under powered.

          Originally posted by HH_HUNK View Post
          What are HMSI honchos thinking?
          Indians are fools probably!!! Sry to say that, but, that's what it makes me to feel when, they've a 6 months waiting period for a decade old product like Activa, 3-4 months waiting period for half a decade old product like Unicorn.

          Originally posted by sudeepnbr View Post
          Not sure how far this is true.
          Nothing surprising. I quite buy this point.

          Originally posted by sudeepnbr View Post
          And I think the target of 30000 bikes/year was for Worldwide, not just for India.
          Should be because, IIRC, it was a statement from Honda & not HMSI.
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          • Originally posted by aargee View Post

            Should be because, IIRC, it was a statement from Honda & not HMSI.
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            • Well I dunno, I wanted my first bike and since the pictures creeped out in October, I have been waiting! Only for this, None other ... R15, Revamped version, KTM or what not. This just stuck in my mind Those were his view's not mine Well I don't care actually

              Originally posted by aargee View Post
              IMHO, HMSI should be least bothered. Reason? The high cost & maintenance on N250R will burn holes with people who're affordable for N250R.

              Frankly speaking, most international speed limits are around 100-120 Kmph. Even in China, the highways have 90 Kmph as top speed limit. When a vehicle can do that, is affordable & comes from a reputed manufacturer, they're already winning the market.

              In India, C250R is affordable, while in the international market, its providing more value & most importantly, it is FE.

              Only time will tell, if Honda is really having a winning product.


              I don't take these type of reasons for people to switch. When they see N650R, they'll see their N250R under powered.
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              • Tks Srivaatsav. But now its even more alarming!!! 30K in India & 10K for exports How will they do it at the snail pace? Shouldn't they have sold about 2.5K in one month after launch, atleast to begin with? Have they sold that many numbers?

                @Bladeboy - you booked in April isn't it? Not sure how long should you keep waiting. From my last conversation, I heard the current waiting period for C250R has increased to 6 months

                And the worst thing I hate to say is...HMSI hasn't even made a formal launch in South India (not that I know of) like Mumbai or Delhi.
                Last edited by aargee; 06-15-2011, 12:22 PM.
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                • Originally posted by aargee View Post
                  I heard the current waiting period for C250R has increased to 6 months

                  And the worst thing I hate to say is...HMSI hasn't even made a formal launch in South India (not that I know of) like Mumbai or Delhi.
                  Thats a standard answer in CHENNAI !

                  May be they are racists !!

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                  • Well I cancelled my Chennai booking and shifted to Erode long back, I will probably get mine within this month

                    Originally posted by aargee View Post
                    @Bladeboy - you booked in April isn't it? Not sure how long should you keep waiting. From my last conversation, I heard the current waiting period for C250R has increased to 6 months
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                    • Originally posted by aargee View Post
                      Pulsar 220 & C250R are 2 different brands coming from two different companies. Haven't you seen the hachiko ad?
                      Hehe...sorry for the misunderstanding.
                      I meant to say

                      "When a bike from bajaj (Pulsar, which sells in greater number, good demand) is ready off the shelf then why honda is making people to wait 6months for their vehicle which is not having great demand like pulsar?
                      Are they really incapable of meeting this demand?
                      Or, Just trying to create artificial demand?"
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                      • Originally posted by swift View Post
                        Hehe...sorry for the misunderstanding.
                        I meant to say

                        "When a bike from bajaj (Pulsar, which sells in greater number, good demand) is ready off the shelf then why honda is making people to wait 6months for their vehicle which is not having great demand like pulsar?
                        Are they really incapable of meeting this demand?
                        Or, Just trying to create artificial demand?"
                        Don't think that is the case, u see they have waiting across all models, its just they don't have a strong production line as bajaj does in India.

                        The CBR250 is a phenomenal bike honda is having problem with delivery. Some say part of it is Tsunami.

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                        • Originally posted by zander2011 View Post
                          Some say part of it is Tsunami.
                          Tsunami??? Go through the previous posts!!!
                          Was the Tsunami struck at Japan or India/Thailand? If Tsunami hits Japan, what has Indian manufacturing plants got to do with the deliveries?
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                            • Originally posted by swift View Post
                              Hehe...sorry for the misunderstanding.
                              I meant to say

                              "When a bike from bajaj (Pulsar, which sells in greater number, good demand) is ready off the shelf then why honda is making people to wait 6months for their vehicle which is not having great demand like pulsar?
                              Are they really incapable of meeting this demand?
                              Or, Just trying to create artificial demand?"
                              I think its because Pulsar has the same tank, panels, indicators etc its just the engine, silencer which is different as for Honda it has larger range of products simliar to Hero Honda with same engines little bit of difference but different looks example - Unicorn & Dazzler, Stunner & Shine, Activa, Aviator & Dio, Hero-CBZ, Achiever & Hunk, ZMA & ZMR, Splendour, Gambler & Passion that is why Cost of Production is less for Bajaj so its more cheaper.
                              Yes Honda is not able to meet the demands (that is why new plants are being set up) I dont think there is artificial demand.
                              My opinion

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                              • As per an Engineering/Business point of view this issue could be a result of "Underestimation"
                                I dont think Honda expected the CBR to be in demand even if they announced to sell 30000 a year.

                                Or it could be that theyre exporting more to the foreign markets so as to not keep those ppl waiting(who have more options to choose from in the 250cc segment compared to us).
                                We Indians dont have much choice but to wait or buy a bike which is twice the price! And Honda might be using our loyalty against us?

                                Just my two cent Analogy :P
                                Last edited by Nithesh; 06-15-2011, 05:03 PM.
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