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**xionite** · 02-05-2011, 01:53 AM

Originally posted by shafi ahmed View Post

if pune mirror is to be believed, KTM duke 125 tat u c here was designed and built at the bajaj facility in pune by engineers over here... was previously named the stunt 125 by bajaj.... tats how it is to hit indian market... if tis is not true i would love to learn the truth...

not only tis one, but bajaj had designed another bike called the race 125... similar looks and specs... al this happened few months back around mid 2010.

Join date 1st April 2010?

Originally posted by shafi ahmed View Post

to prove my point, you guys see the last bike in all this... thats th one tat was designed here... with none or very little help direct KTM...

you are totally and completely misinformed about ALL the info you have.

and no... if the pune mirror said all this... they are not to be believed.

**shafi ahmed** · 02-05-2011, 02:02 AM

Originally posted by xionite View Post

Join date 1st April 2010?

you are totally and completely misinformed about ALL the info you have.

and no... if the pune mirror said all this... they are not to be believed.

i may have joined late... but boy i remember the day i read about it....

bliv me i was equally shocked to know bajaj had done this....

i wil have it posted it here as soon as i find that paper... oyu wil hear from me soon

**shafi ahmed** · 02-05-2011, 02:08 AM

Originally posted by xionite View Post

Join date 1st April 2010?

you are totally and completely misinformed about ALL the info you have.

and no... if the pune mirror said all this... they are not to be believed.

surprise surprise..!!! follow this link.... and you wil know exactly what m talkin about.. best part, was discussed in XBHp... which you seem to be a member for quite a few years..

Punes exciting Race begins with a Stunt! - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/news/10860-pune-s-exciting-race-begins-stunt.html

Motorcycle news from around the world, worth a discussion!

**xionite** · 02-05-2011, 02:29 AM

^^^ i've seen that link way back when it was posted.

Originally posted by shafi ahmed View Post

was previously named the stunt 125 by bajaj.... tats how it is to hit indian market... if tis is not true i would love to learn the truth...

so... tell me... when are these 125s "hitting the indian market"??

they're going to be available in europe in mid 2011...
but there's not going to be a launch for india.

atleast not in the 125 avatar.

Originally posted by shafi ahmed View Post

to prove my point, you guys see the last bike in all this... thats th one tat was designed here... with none or very little help direct KTM...

with little or no help from KTM??

when i said you were misinformed... i was reffering to the facts that...

Bajaj designed the KTM 125 Duke all on their own.

& that the 125 is due an launch in india.

both of which, are not true.

the link source is just speculating when they say...

And as is clearly visible, one just can’t wait long enough for these bikes to hit Probiking showrooms.

you can find those same sources talking about 250cc R15s & 350/400cc pulsars.

**vrugonnab** · 02-05-2011, 06:37 AM

Originally posted by R-series View Post

Oh c'mon if you know the secrets of KTM and have the Blue prints what they do and how they do it..you can make the same stuff in your backyard with the required infrastructure ofcourse..does that make it your product or KTM's? the credit would still go to KTM irrespective who's making it..unless you change the answer for "how to make it?"

This is the same reason Jaguars (being under Tata) are still selling because its a Jaguar. Ferrari's because they are Ferrari product and not Fiat. get the point. I don't say your wrong. At the end the Financial profit might go to Bajaj, thats understood and it might sell as a bajaj product, but I expect you to understand its still made by KTM..though its made in India, though its made at the bajaj plant and though its made by indians.

Agreed.. but KTM Duke is not similar to Ninja story..or Fiat-Ferrari/Tata -Jaguar!! I wouldn't claim Bajaj made Ninja since they are assembling it. In case of baby duke, Bajaj is involved right from design stage.. so your point is not valid here.. baby duke is a result of collaboration between KTM & Bajaj. So, you have to give credit to Bajaj for their effort with Duke.

**payeng** · 02-05-2011, 09:45 AM

Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post

Agreed.. but KTM Duke is not similar to Ninja story..or Fiat-Ferrari/Tata -Jaguar!! I wouldn't claim Bajaj made Ninja since they are assembling it. In case of baby duke, Bajaj is involved right from design stage.. so your point is not valid here.. baby duke is a result of collaboration between KTM & Bajaj. So, you have to give credit to Bajaj for their effort with Duke.

Correct.

If anybody has any doubts then he can read the Rajiv Bajaj interview published in the Feb issue of BSM magazine. In the interview, its clearly mentioned that the 125/200 Duke has been developed and sourced out of India. Which results in cost advantages for KTM.

[Plus Bajaj currently has around 38% stake in KTM. More than the 26% that Honda had in Hero Honda]

Mr. Bajaj has also said in the interview that NOT the 125 but a 200 Duke will be launched in India, since it does not make sense launching a 125 in India as unlike most countries of Europe, India does not have any laws favoring the use of 125 cc.

Launch date in India, probably by year end.

New Pulsars:

Plus Mr. Bajaj also has mentioned in the interview that most of the engine of the KTMs (manufactured in India) will be shared by the completely re-engineered Pulsars.

Also mentioned in the interview is that the new Pulsars will be air as well as Liquid cooled + will have 4 valve/cylinder engines.

**Arun1** · 02-05-2011, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by M.vinay View Post

KTM 125 Duke 2011.

Whats up with the handlebars? They look strange.

**xionite** · 02-05-2011, 12:01 PM

^^ those are the mirrors.

**payeng** · 02-05-2011, 12:07 PM

Originally posted by xionite View Post

^^ those are the mirrors.

Actually those are hand protectors and not mirrors, usually found on Enduro/Dual purpose bikes.

These will be provided as accessories in Europe.

**xionite** · 02-05-2011, 12:12 PM

Originally posted by payeng View Post

Actually those are hand protectors and not mirrors, usually found on Enduro/Dual purpose bikes.

ah that... cool.

**Lightsportz** · 02-05-2011, 12:21 PM

Originally posted by payeng View Post

[Plus Bajaj currently has around 38% stake in KTM. More than the 26% that Honda had in Hero Honda]

Even you have put this inside brackets

I think this is a very good point. When Honda had just 26%, people always said ' Hero honda is Honda technology, reliability....

'etc.
But even when bajaj having 38% of KTM they do not get the half the credit they deserve, (but the sarcasm)....

**vrugonnab** · 02-05-2011, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by payeng View Post

Mr. Bajaj has also said in the interview that NOT the 125 but a 200 Duke will be launched in India, since it does not make sense launching a 125 in India as unlike most countries of Europe, India does not have any laws favoring the use of 125 cc.

Launch date in India, probably by year end.

New Pulsars:

Plus Mr. Bajaj also has mentioned in the interview that most of the engine of the KTMs (manufactured in India) will be shared by the completely re-engineered Pulsars.

Also mentioned in the interview is that the new Pulsars will be air as well as Liquid cooled + will have 4 valve/cylinder engines.

I'm really looking forward to new generation Pulsars.. hope they will make competition to go back to their drawing boards.

**changky27** · 02-05-2011, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by Arun1 View Post

Whats up with the handlebars? They look strange.

The bike looks awesome......................hope it changes the perception of bikes we all have in India.

**M.vinay** · 02-05-2011, 08:56 PM

YouTube - KTM Duke 125 2011 .mp4

YouTube - KTM 125 Duke - Create your own.mp4

YouTube - Picking up his new 125 Duke.mp4

YouTube - KTM 125 Duke.mp4

**sandeepedara** · 02-06-2011, 05:09 AM

check this out.....

KTM Duke spotted. Is it the 200? - KTM Duke spotted testing - Motorcycle : Overdrive

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OFFICIAL: KTM 200 to be launched during Auto Expo 2012, and 350 cc to follow soon

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