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**satyenpoojary** · 05-25-2011, 12:05 PM

No GT for me... I would rather wait and buy the HyperMotard... (Or the iron883!)

The GT makes sense if is a pulsar cheaper than the 650... They'd probably value you more than IKLM... So may be you could expect a princely treatment till the company lasts :P
And ofcourse you can ship stuff from hyosungsource if garware tries to fleece you :P

**Samarth 619** · 05-25-2011, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post

MG Bro, I appreciate all the info you shared. It makes my confirmed decision even stronger. Thanks.

One more thing, can you please tell me how exactly are both these machines detuned?
I'm asking because, if they detune only by putting a more (noise+pollution) restrictive exhaust than the one abroad, its a good thing because we can get an Akrapovics or TwoBrothers full exhaust system to solve the detuning and get even more power than stock.
So, what exactly is this "detuning", in case of GT and in case of N650?

(I do hope the "detuning" is not some re-mapping, compression ratio decrease or Fi adjustment, or things we could never sort out.)

Guys, somebody please Reply to my question above... We really need to know how are they detuned if we want something to be done in the matter.

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@ SatyenPoojary: I guess Tenhut is more used to the Supersports bikes or Superbikes, that's why its obvious he doesn't like Ninja 650's braking. It's very obvious that the Ninja 650 won't match the supersports in braking and some other aspects too.

A friend owning Karizma criticizes my P180 UG3's braking by saying, "it sucks!"

MG · 05-25-2011, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post

Guys, somebody please Reply to my question above... We really need to know how are they detuned if we want something to be done in the matter.

Detuning is done by remapping the ECU to meet the regulation for that specific country.

**Praful** · 05-25-2011, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by MG_Biker1806 View Post

Detuning is done by remapping the ECU to meet the regulation for that specific country.

Well thankfully there are ways and means to get around that. One can always go Power Commander

**Samarth 619** · 05-25-2011, 05:29 PM

Originally posted by MG_Biker1806 View Post

Detuning is done by remapping the ECU to meet the regulation for that specific country.

I see, Thanks. We know GT is detuned. But, is the Indian Ninja 650R detuned?

If so, any idea how much power it makes? You did say it seems faster than GT 650R, which means more than 70 bhp on crank, is it?

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@ Praful: Let's hope that does the job. Yes, it has downloadable maps each specific for exhausts, etc.

**nitrosatya** · 05-25-2011, 10:56 PM

Imagine people buying the Ninja 650 in an impulse and realising that it is not a proper 'Dhoom' bike.

[not saying that the Hyosung is]

It would be great to know their reactions.

**saipranav** · 05-25-2011, 11:00 PM

Are you serious?
6X bhp bike is too good for indian road conditions man.

**pp180** · 05-26-2011, 02:58 AM

Some comparison between Ninja and GT (which i guess all know but still it helps some prospective confused buyer like me)

-GT would be perfect for morning rides , Ninja 650 is good for morning rides and touring .
-Ninja doesn't have that sports bike looks and proportions which GT has.
-GT vibrates more compared to Ninja but it should not bother you until you are using it for touring ,For Weekend Fun rides GT fits the Bill.
- Bajaj has good service network but Garware has promised a lot and even if they rap up their bags after an year we can get GT serviced by any local superbike mechanics.
-Ninja has an upright stance whereas GT has aggressive stance.
- GT sounds much better than ninja .
- Ninja has a better brand value than GT .

For me GT is the choice as now , Main concern is it vibrations , Will take a TD of GT and then finalize.

**trustvishwas** · 05-26-2011, 10:31 AM

Originally posted by pp180 View Post

Some comparison between Ninja and GT (which i guess all know but still it helps some prospective confused buyer like me)

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-GT vibrates more compared to Ninja but it should not bother you until you are using it for touring ,For Weekend Fun rides GT fits the Bill.

For me GT is the choice as now , Main concern is it vibrations , Will take a TD of GT and then finalize.

Are you serious? You feel as if you have Parkinsons disease after riding GT for half an hour. Also you can save your gym membership fee because if pressing its clutch is a proper workout. Try pressing the clutch 5-6 times and you would know what I am saying.

**Praful** · 05-26-2011, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by trustvishwas View Post

Are you serious? You feel as if you have Parkinsons disease after riding GT for half an hour. Also you can save your gym membership fee because if pressing its clutch is a proper workout. Try pressing the clutch 5-6 times and you would know what I am saying.

Vishwas bhai,

For certain 'cases' ... "Dhoom" bike ke liye kuch bhi karega issue hai!

[Will do anything for a 'Dhoom' bike]

Aspiring GT owners take a chill pill!

**pp180** · 05-26-2011, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by trustvishwas View Post

Are you serious? You feel as if you have Parkinsons disease after riding GT for half an hour. Also you can save your gym membership fee because if pressing its clutch is a proper workout. Try pressing the clutch 5-6 times and you would know what I am saying.

I have read in many forums/reviews about GT vibrations , there are certainly vibrations on a GT but no one mentioned they are too much to lessen the whole riding experience. I know it 's not as smooth as Ninja .

Don't do too much bashing for GT

, I understand you are a true Kawi Fan but GT is also a reasonable product if not as good. I trust your words but i will take TD of GT and will try to push it to higher revs to check the vibrations and clutch feel.
Have you taken TD of GT .

Ninja is really good bike but it just doesn't have that big bike looks , For me looks are also important if i am spending 5 lac on a bike.
If really hurts when people says ( yae 5 lac ki bike hai. lag to nahi rahi , aisa kya hai issmae , atleast GT has that big bike looks )

**rossi_god** · 05-26-2011, 11:55 AM

Originally posted by pp180 View Post

I have read in many forums/reviews about GT vibrations , there are certainly vibrations on a GT but no one mentioned they are too much to lessen the whole riding experience. I know it 's not as smooth as Ninja .

Don't do too much bashing for GT

, I understand you are a true Kawi Fan but GT is also a reasonable product if not as good. I trust your words but i will take TD of GT and will try to push it to higher revs to check the vibrations and clutch feel.
Have you taken TD of GT .

Ninja is really good bike but it just doesn't have that big bike looks , For me looks are also important if i am spending 5 lac on a bike.
If really hurts when people says ( yae 5 lac ki bike hai. lag to nahi rahi , aisa kya hai issmae , atleast GT has that big bike looks )

ummmmm hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

**satyenpoojary** · 05-26-2011, 11:58 AM

Stop dragging GT in this thread folks...
PS: Vishwas has TD'd both the bikes, so chill! He talks from his experience of the bikes.
Then again, you guys should read the 'good' reviews on the last issue. Heck even the video in which Pune's very resident expert NV was praising the bike, and he too had a short ride of the bike and had not mentioned it being too vibey!
I think Pune TD thing was a disaster for Garware... I strongly think that they gave a fudged bike to the members for TD, without bothering to check it. They perhaps thought they would get away with it by the so called 'dhoom effect' but......!

**trustvishwas** · 05-26-2011, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by pp180 View Post

I have read in many forums/reviews about GT vibrations , there are certainly vibrations on a GT but no one mentioned they are too much to lessen the whole riding experience. I know it 's not as smooth as Ninja .

Don't do too much bashing for GT

, I understand you are a true Kawi Fan but GT is also a reasonable product if not as good. I trust your words but i will take TD of GT and will try to push it to higher revs to check the vibrations and clutch feel.
Have you taken TD of GT .

Ninja is really good bike but it just doesn't have that big bike looks , For me looks are also important if i am spending 5 lac on a bike.
If really hurts when people says ( yae 5 lac ki bike hai. lag to nahi rahi , aisa kya hai issmae , atleast GT has that big bike looks )

I am not doing GT bashing. Secondly, I am not a big kawi fan as you think. I was quite excited to know that another cheaper alternative to japanese bikes is coming in. However, when you see GT in flesh, you can see for yourself how filmsy plastics, cables are. Check rough and unfinished edges on all plastic parts. If I am spending 5 lakh on a bike, I want that bike to be with me for at least 4-5 years. GT feels fragile.

The vibes start from 6k rpm and keep on increasing till 11k. This becomes a serious issue because that is the rev range you would be riding in for most of the time.

**pp180** · 05-26-2011, 12:08 PM

Originally posted by trustvishwas View Post

I am not doing GT bashing. Secondly, I am not a big kawi fan as you think. I was quite excited to know that another cheaper alternative to japanese bikes is coming in. However, when you see GT in flesh, you can see for yourself how filmsy plastics, cables are. Check rough and unfinished edges on all plastic parts. If I am spending 5 lakh on a bike, I want that bike to be with me for at least 4-5 years. GT feels fragile.

The vibes start from 6k rpm and keep on increasing till 11k. This becomes a serious issue because that is the rev range you would be riding in for most of the time.

If that is the case then it's a point of concern.

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