Just wanted to quote somebodies signature here and nice one.......

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Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and then beat you with experience.

Well said bro..! No point in explaining more about this..

ZMA can do all those 3 better than p220

Should the customer worry about who started to make engines when?[/QUOTE]

I think customers are not worried with the pulsar engine, so only it selling like an hot cake..............

He is saying his experience, not asking for ur experience...........

Well said +1

Thanks for the suggestion... but we are happy with our Pulsars....

You all are sounding like little kids arguing which power ranger is better or if Chocolate ice cream is better then Vanilla. or whats better PS3 or Xbox360 or WII Come on grow up folks.


Look Pulsars 150 180 200 220fi 220f are all a good bike especially for the money
ZMA / ZMR is a good bike too
Unicorn is a good bike too
R15 is a good bike
the Apache series are a good bike too.
Honda has good bikes too but pricey ( and that cbr250 is on back order because They are produced in Thailand for the entire world. )


It is all about the rider which bike they feel the most comfort on.
What they feel suits their personality, how they connect with the road is the bike that the choose. weither it be a 80cc scooter or a 1800cc 6cyl motorcycle it is all about the riders choice. you cant go say oh this bike is better because blah blah blah you cant it is all about the rider and their own feeling of the bike they choose The bike that you think is better may not suit the personality or character of another rider.

SO stop this stupid internet bickering about This is better that is worse bullSH** Grow up and Realize that everyone has a bike / car / truck whatever that suits them best and they choose it.

Anyone who wants to know why people love Japanese bike makers, i think the above QUOTE says it all. Two big brands but two different ideology.
One believes in selling and the other believes in delivering!
One believes in Quantity and the other believes in Quality!
Big difference

Refinement and comfort rules all the way. Pulsars are jacks of all but masters of none. And those who think p220 is the best and nothing can beat it are like frogs in a well.


Never argue with a person who thinks Bajaj is the best bike manufacturer in the world he'll bring you down to his level and beat you with his experience.

Bajaj Auto's Marketing GM Milind Bade :
"Before the potential competitor (Honda) comes and attacks us, we want to be in a strong position to ward off the threat," he says. "We have always been numerically superior to them, but people are not aware about the extent of our leadership. The advertisement points out our domination."

Well, not long ago, Rajiv Bajaj categorically said that they will beat Hero Honda by exiting 100cc segment. This happened when HeroHonda-Bajaj monthly sales had a gap of 30,000. Today the gap is staggering 3,00,000 that too with 100cc in it's portfolio !! So everyone knows Bajaj has made a fool out of himself first by declaring Bajaj would beat HH and second by exiting and then coming back desperately into 100cc segment for few numbers !!!

My point is,.. instead of making rubbish statements, Bajaj should take on competition with strategies and not by baseless/logic-less comments.

Exactly. Bajaj is acting like those celebs who are commenting on each other to get some media attention.

Everyone knowss that bajaj is a company with a big mouth, and i dont understand how a company can become no.1 by spending endlessly on advertisements.I dont like that way bajaj is cribbing for more publicity.

Many people look down on apache and r15 saying that they are not fit for street riding or by saying the later has a thin tyre(ROFL), zmr IN THE SEXIEST tourer in the ~1lakh segment, p220 is not. It completely depends on the rider,if he wants a bike with good acceleration 80k cost, he will go with apache series, if he wants a reliable bike with great cornering abilities, he can go with r15, if he wants a tourer, he can go with zmr, if he wants p220, he can definitely go for it...

But saying that his bike is the best no mater what the facts are and saying that bajaj/tvs are the best manufacturers in the world... is plain stupidity, i have a lot of respect for tvs, they make some really good engines for a company of that age, i respect bajaj even more because they are bringing kawasaki's and ktm's to india, it does not look nice when somebody says x company is good and y company is bad, i dont understand why mods are still keeping this thread open, there is no point is keeping it open <_<

I think the mods haven't locked it yet because they knew that these sort of discussion is bound to happen in a thread like this.

Just saw sales figure of Bajaj Pulsar 135LS, its mindboggling. 135LS sales reached 1 lakh+ in April 2010 (Bike was launched in Dec 2009), overall all Pulsars combined sales jumped from 45,000 (Dec 2009) to 80,000 (May 2011). The new Pulsar 135 LS is reportedly selling in the range of 30,000 units a month.

Considering the maturity of the buyers in India today & access to experiences/information on the web, perception built merely on advertisements may not go a long way in retaining the leadership position..Certainly not among the considerable size of existing owners lot who have the experience of bikes before and are now already looking at their second or third bike... Every manufacturer leverages the power of perception but then the perception should meet the reality as well...If Bajaj is able to turn around the perception of its bikes being non reliable - quality wise then for sure it can continue to retain the leadership position. That is of course my view at it as I have that perception having owned 1st generation 180 for long..Perhaps the reality now is different..

This thread has all the makings of a great masala movie...heros and villians scattered all over.

To each his own! If you feel that your TVS 50 is the greatest bike on this planet, period. That is your perception and no one can change it and no one has any right to change it too. People have varied experience with a particular brand and that in no way means that the products are bad. I believe the sales market is a strong indicator of the products success; the general public does not buy anything that is inherently bad.

The thread is all about the press release and the greater plans that Bajaj has for their operations in the motorcycle segment. In one of my earlier posts, I had said that the ultimate benefactor is the consumer.

Instead of arguing on whether Bajaj bikes are refined and powerful and whether HH/Apache/Suzuki/Any other brand is good/bad, it would be better if people discuss on what products if launched (by any manufacturer) might make more sense in this competing market.

No offense to anyone, but the last 5 pages have nothing but mudslinging and fanboy-ism to the core. A genuine request, no more of this stuff please.

HUNTO

Honda has only petrol cars, never diesel. And with the prices of petrol soaring, who wants a Honda Petrol car. Honda cars are lying in the dozens for seconds sale. People have dumped their City's, Accord's & Civic's for VW Vento, Passat & Jetta who are the new kings of sedans.

FYI, just yesterday, Honda just announced a discount of 66k on their City due to its poor sales. Get your facts right and go thru some Indian Auto Car magazines &/OR Auto news reports.

You are confusing Hero Honda & Honda Motors. Now Honda cant even be added to Hero.

Thats Passe, not anymore. This is the "Here & Now" generation. We Indians value time & money.