Ya it can, but not in nos.
First part of the post says Bajaj is bad, Second part says Yamaha and HH are good while third part of it says we should not say Company X is good company Y is bad. And at last a request to mods to lock the thread.
What should one understand about the views
By "Failed in FI" I did not meant "Failed Product", i just meant Bajaj failed in perfecting the FI (not P220 as whole), as they could not enhance the range. Surely they will better it and will comeback with FI (may be towards this year end with new range)....

Agree

But even the Japanese ventured out to US/UK after a few decades when they had firm footing in their home country. It has just been roughly 10 years on its own for Bajaj. There is still a long way for it to go.

Totally Agree. I respect Bajaj for what they have managed to achieve in such a short time. No two ways about it...those who know me, know about half of my stable consisting of Bajaj Bikes

According to me, Pulsars are a hit because of the following reasons:

1) All gizmos (Digi console, LED tails etc) + Good power with a cheaper price tag.
2) Quicker delivery (You can get a pulsar at the same day u pay the cash)... This is not the case for any 2 wheeler maker.
3) Attractive finance options (You can get a pulsar by just paying 3k - 5k as initial payment) with the tie up from BAJAJ finance.

Pulsars are too good when they are new ...But a 2 years old pulsar will be the worst bike to ride... With all the noises coming out from everywhere

I would personally suggest BAJAJ to work on their quality... Then all this blah blah blah...

All the above are strictly my personal opinion... No offence meant

Bajaj no longer competing with Hero, taking on Honda


and thats why they came up with this HUNTO $hit?

Good answer given by Yamaha as they are really good engines in performance as compared to Honda and pulsars, hoping to see the next gen pulsars really taking the biking with performance to a new segment.

But again i hope pulsar doesn't repeat the mistake of closing the production as it did with FI unit which was a really good bike.

rofl..........

Seems this Hunto "s***" is working...
Most of the ppl in this forum did not knew that P220 is so much popular and even after knowing it finding it Hunto ;-)....


Hero might not be able to retain its Number one position for long and Honda surely is a prime contender for this position (after Honda reveled its ambitious plans to be Numero Uno in a decade its goal is clear) and it’s actually a realistic ambition for Honda. Since Honda is known for quality and technology hence Bajaj want to compete in number game and want to cash its no. one position in performance bike segment. (And why not these bikes are the future of bikes in India)
Yamaha manufactures good bikes but there product portfolio is too small for any ambitious plans. And they can’t have a good product line till it keep changing their CEO quicker than Bajaj upgrades its products ;-)

If Hero manages to get good R&D soon enough they can retain No.1 position because its got every thing else don't they? And bring down the giant is easier said than done.

this was the same thing which i had posted in r15 and cbr250 thread 2 weeks back,but had no good response

Let's look at the situation on ground at the moment...

As far as performance segment is concerned undoubtedly Pulsar is leading the sales charts. With all the rumours about 4-valve engine/chasis upgrades on Pulsar line-up which are supposedly shared by KTM bikes, I don't see any reason why they can't continue leading sales charts for atleast another 5 years.

Having said that can Honda crack open that segment, answer is why not?They have all that it takes to do that, but the question is do they have right strategy to do it?

In fact when Twister is launched, I thought it will blow away Passion, but that was not to be. The Honda brand may be strong but not strong enough to dent sales of HH. Probably Honda needs to scale up their distribution. Make their spares a lot cheaper, don't get me wrong. I don't believe that there is significant quality difference between spares of Bajaj & Honda. Just an example: disc pad on Unicorn costs you 1000-1200 including labor, while that of Pulsar comes in under 350 including labor. But life span of that disc pad would still be more or less same.

Another problem with Honda is so far they are not really serious about their product line-up. They have Shine & Stunner using same engine without much difference (including price). Unicorn & Dazzler using same engine. You can't have that kind of line-up especially when you have better products in competition (read SS125/SZ/FZ, D125/150/P135LS/Pulsar & RTR160/180) and it doesn't look like they have any upgrades planned anytime soon.

I think honda has a large gap between Dazzler and CBR. It needs a new bike in that gap probably a 200cc or something like CBR 150r should do.

I dont think honda will come up with any new product like CBR 150R or 200cc segment......If they come with 150R or 200cc..then the price will be around 1Lac +.....where R15 has a good grip in that position with its sheer perfomance(Design, Quality, Top speed ) .....which honda cannot beat
(Top speed)...If it beats then there is no value for 250R.

+100 it should use its own 223 cc engine and tune it to give 20 bhp & name it Honda Hornet...

do you want to bridge the gap in price or in cubic capacity?

A naked cbr250 based streetfighter was touted to be released sometime early next year.