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  • #451
    Originally posted by payeng View Post
    By the way, this is the Original Alan Cathcart articl: Riding KTM's 125 Duke | Cycle News

    I don't see a mention of the top speed for the 200 Duke in it.

    Isnt this article dated 12/01/2010. (almost two years old) or is it that only i see the date??
    Alan mentions that he is waiting to test the 200. So may be he has tested it now?
    You gotta risk it.. to get da biscuit !!!

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    • #452
      Originally posted by MeTaL_MaNiaC View Post
      Isnt this article dated 12/01/2010. (almost two years old) or is it that only i see the date??
      Alan mentions that he is waiting to test the 200. So may be he has tested it now?
      but you can notice lot of resemblance between the two.even the words are same.chances are there that somebody has edited it.
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      • #453
        Originally posted by mid View Post
        but you can notice lot of resemblance between the two.even the words are same.chances are there that somebody has edited it.
        Both have almost the same cycle parts, hence the resemblance.

        The top speed mentioned is indeed hard to believe as 127 on speedo would mean at least 125 in real. But then it being on BSM and Alan riding it can't be false.

        EDIT: This appears like a copy-paste. Thanks for bringing it up Payeng
        Last edited by sheelpriye; 12-04-2011, 12:43 AM.

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        • #454
          Originally posted by MeTaL_MaNiaC View Post
          Heart and logic believes that 127 is too less for such a machine. But maybe they want to restrict it at the top speed as it has no fairing to protect from wind blast and may have a more upright position. Plus lesser weight may not aid stabilty at top speed.. Does this make any sense? Just my imagination to believe the above article.
          I too hope that this is not true.
          ^may be you are right and it also- it can be that - to gain an amazing pick-up, top end is sacrificed.

          and the articles we are discussing are actually two different articles but parts of the articles are same, like entire sentences are same, when i was reading them i was wondering whether it is actually the same article edited by someone else.
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          • #455
            Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
            and the articles we are discussing are actually two different articles but parts of the articles are same, like entire sentences are same, when i was reading them i was wondering whether it is actually the same article edited by someone else.
            Are you guys talking about this too,
            World Exclusive! KTM Duke 200 review!
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            I didnt feel its fake. Why will BSM publish fake ride report? (with pics) (i know why they may do), but if so, nothing can be trusted. Anyways, i am not breaking my head after this. Ifs and buts would keep coming till the final launch. We can be happy speculating till then.
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            • #456
              Originally posted by MeTaL_MaNiaC View Post
              Heart and logic believes that 127 is too less for such a machine. But maybe they want to restrict it at the top speed as it has no fairing to protect from wind blast and may have a more upright position. Plus lesser weight may not aid stabilty at top speed.. Does this make any sense? Just my imagination to believe the above article.
              I too hope that this is not true.
              This was exactly what i was thinking if at all the Top speed claimed is to be true.
              And by this i was actually going to answer Payeng's reply to my post on the P200 thread

              Originally posted by payeng View Post

              Just imagine the R15 with a 200 cc, 25 bhp engine..!!
              Now imagine the same R15 with 200cc engine 25bhp and no fairing. Do you think she will handle the same way at top speeds?
              Obviously not. Aerodynamics kick in and alters the behaviour of bike at high speeds.

              And as metalmaniac has wondered(so have i) maybe the KTM has been setup for acceleration over topspeed?
              Keep in Mind KTM's were mostly popular with the stunters across the globe. You dont have to hit topspeed to pull out ur moves. Enough bottom end power will do justice. So im thinking on KTM being the quickest of the lot. but maybe not "fastest" of the lot
              Either way only time will tell. So when are they releasing her?
              Last edited by Nithesh; 12-04-2011, 02:26 AM.
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              • #457
                the duke 200 is definitely tuned for low end punch, you can make out by that huge sprocket on the rear wheel. very rare to see a sprocket that size on a 200cc motor..

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                • #458
                  Originally posted by sheelpriye View Post
                  Both have almost the same cycle parts, hence the resemblance.

                  The top speed mentioned is indeed hard to believe as 127 on speedo would mean at least 125 in real. But then it being on BSM and Alan riding it can't be false.

                  EDIT: This appears like a copy-paste. Thanks for bringing it up Payeng
                  The top speed mentioned for the 125 is 77 MPH, which works out to 123 kmph, the 200 doing just 4 kmph more is hard to digest, I guess he did that speed in 5th gear.

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                  • #459
                    can u believe peak power & rev limiter kicking in at the same 10000rpm? 125km/h is the derestricted duke 125's topspeed! (even a pushed hard unicorn can do close to speedo indicated 120 kms at favored conditions!)
                    and if u know that article was fake then why the heck u believe whats being said there!
                    yes topend'll be less but 127kms is kinda unacceptable
                    Last edited by mid; 12-04-2011, 08:55 AM.
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                    • #460
                      Originally posted by Nithesh View Post
                      Now imagine the same R15 with 200cc engine 25bhp and no fairing. Do you think she will handle the same way at top speeds?
                      Obviously not. Aerodynamics kick in and alters the behaviour of bike at high speeds.
                      Aerodynamics come on.. is there any difference of top end between P220F & P220 S?? IMO, if anything, the so-called aerodynamics should work against full faired bikes as they have more contact surface area, they work only to reduce wind blast.
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                      • #461
                        Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post
                        Aerodynamics come on.. is there any difference of top end between P220F & P220 S?? IMO, if anything, the so-called aerodynamics should work against full faired bikes as they have more contact surface area, they work only to reduce wind blast.
                        Aerodynamics definitely works buddy. The top speed of P220F is greater than P220S.
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                        • #462
                          Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post
                          Aerodynamics come on.. is there any difference of top end between P220F & P220 S?? IMO, if anything, the so-called aerodynamics should work against full faired bikes as they have more contact surface area, they work only to reduce wind blast.
                          so you say wind tunnel testings are joke?
                          anyway ktm dirtbikes with flyweight have better topend than the so claimed 127
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                          • #463
                            Originally posted by Ivin View Post
                            Aerodynamics definitely works buddy. The top speed of P220F is greater than P220S.
                            by how much?? 10%.. 20% can you put a number on that?

                            Originally posted by mid View Post
                            so you say wind tunnel testings are joke?
                            anyway ktm dirtbikes with flyweight have better topend than the so claimed 127
                            Wind tunnel testing is certainly not a joke, I know why it is done. But that doesn't mean naked bikes can't do same speeds.. remember we do have some exotic naked bikes from Ducati.

                            Anyways, if we can get out of this naked vs fully faired topic.. I do believe from whichever angle you think 127kmph top speed is simply not acceptable for a machine that's producing 25bhp and weighing just about 135kgs.
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                            • #464



                              are they testing KTM engines on Pulsars or is this the KTM 125......?

                              what u guys think.?
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                              • #465
                                Originally posted by vishnus View Post
                                are they testing KTM engines on Pulsars or is this the KTM 125......?
                                Or a pulsar 125/135/150/200??
                                Whatever it is, its better in the pulsar thread only. Dont want to see a duke turned like this

                                and on the top speed disscussion, some people like "how much it does", some like "how it does"(whatever it does) and some like "how much it returns". Cant a product be designed for a specific class? If i buy it as a streetbike, i think 127 is enough for me. For touring, definately not enough.

                                OT:Btw, i dont believe a unicorn can do 120 how muchever pushed, except for falling down a mountain (favourable condition?)
                                please excuse me for saying this.
                                Last edited by MeTaL_MaNiaC; 12-04-2011, 10:54 AM.
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