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  • #601
    Originally posted by payeng View Post
    From Varad More's Zigwheel's review, it seems that the 200 Duke is a Focussed Street Hooligan..

    ..therefore "apples to apples" comparision would be with the Yamaha FZ and the likes, the result of which we all can kind of predict.



    Yes i know , but seeing the dearth of option in our country the cubic capacity & the price point is what we have to look for comparison stakes.

    I am also quite surprised and taken aback with Rahul Bajaj's comments on the performance comparison with the CBR 250R. Even Bajaj is taking the cc/pricing as the key to the comparison irrespective of the segment.

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    • #602
      Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
      Yes i know , but seeing the dearth of option in our country the cubic capacity & the price point is what we have to look for comparison stakes.

      I am also quite surprised and taken aback with Rahul Bajaj's comments on the performance comparison with the CBR 250R. Even Bajaj is taking the cc/pricing as the key to the comparison irrespective of the segment.
      That would be Rajiv Bajaj. Rahul Bajaj is the senior Bajaj and his dad.

      About the comment, maybe because he knows the desi mentality all too well..



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      • #603
        Can we at least get a ETA on the review so we can all stop scavenging for the thread and other websites every hour....??
        Last edited by Ab13; 12-06-2011, 11:04 PM.

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        • #604
          @ the_mechanic: Yes, Lockhrt999 is very much correct.

          Yes, the R15 will do 150 kmph IF AND ONLY IF you reach 10,000 rpm in top gear. And even CBR will do those speeds, again IF you reach that rpm in top gear. (BUT YOU WON'T in either case).

          Duke is currently rumoured to be touching the rev limiter (10 krpm) in top gear. That's why Lockhrt mentioned 11,000 rpm because that might be possible, if rev limiter is extended.
          And he's very much correct on the math there, although maybe "clutch drag" affects these figures at a micro degree...

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          And guys, many of you said Short gearing means more gear shifts? This is wrong. Short gearing means gearing focussed towards acceleration. Such gearing will maintain low speeds in high gears, so you might not need to downshift often, on the road atleast.
          Biggest example: FZ16.

          "Close Ratios" means more gearshifts. It means less difference in gearing values between individual gears. These are 2 different things.
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          • #605
            Originally posted by payeng View Post
            That would be Rajiv Bajaj. Rahul Bajaj is the senior Bajaj and his dad.

            About the comment, maybe because he knows the desi mentality all too well..


            Oops, typo!!

            ..A typo too "big"

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            • #606
              Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post
              And guys, many of you said Short gearing means more gear shifts? This is wrong.

              "Short gearing" means gearing focussed towards acceleration. Such gearing will maintain low speeds in high gears, so you might not need to downshift often, on the road atleast.
              Biggest example: FZ16.

              "Close Ratios" means more gearshifts. It means less difference in gearing values between individual gears.

              These are 2 different things.
              Appaluse Samarth bro.. I would have used these two words interchangeably. Now I won't, thanks to you.


              Last edited by payeng; 12-06-2011, 11:13 PM.

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              • #607
                Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
                A Sincere request...

                If possible, please include the performance figures vis-a-vis the competition!!
                Yes we will try to provide whatever we have gathered from the short ride around the track

                Originally posted by Shubz View Post
                And videos too! Badly want to know what it sounds like!
                Videos were not permitted yesterday so next time.
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                • #608
                  Originally posted by MG View Post

                  Videos were not permitted yesterday so next time.
                  Aww! Anyway eagerly waiting for the report. Will hold on to my horses until tomorrow afternoon!

                  Would appreciate if someone from your team could at least tell us how did it sound - a nice deep roar? or close to P220?

                  And if someone can confirm/deny this ---> booking starts after 20th dec, official launch is on 3rd jan and deliveries after 10th jan!

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                  • #609
                    Originally posted by MG View Post
                    Yes we will try to provide whatever we have gathered from the short ride around the track


                    Videos were not permitted yesterday so next time.
                    How about audio, sir jee that's what we are all after!!
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                    • #610
                      "Focussed street hooligan"- sounds like my next bike . Should be utterly practical and fun to ride. That is ALL that matters to me. Can count on Varad's words.
                      You can take the ride away from me but you cannot take the rider out of my soul.........

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                      • #611
                        how much of an upgrade would it be from a P220? I guess I should wait for a TD. Guess the Duke350 or ninja or new pulsars might be a better option for me. but i love the bike !
                        Regardless, Life shall go on.

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                        • #612
                          Originally posted by Wanted DoA View Post
                          Lockhart is right.

                          going by formula you gave..

                          speed = c*RPM*r/(r1*r2)

                          where c= 00595

                          now lets simplify this..

                          speed = RPM * ((c*r)/(r1*r2))

                          now if the gear is unchanged (suppose we're riding on 6th gear only)
                          the only variable values will be speed and RPM. and transmission gear ratio, rear axle ratio, loaded tire radius will be constant for same gear.

                          so speed = RPM * K ...where K = (c*r)/(r1*r2) which is a constant (for same gear)

                          Hence be proved: speed is directly propostional to rpm.

                          example:

                          1st. A bike is moving at 'x' speed @5000 rpm
                          2nd. same bike is moving at 'y' speed @10000 rpm

                          going by what we evaluated above y will be double of x in ideal conditions.
                          " There is no ideal condition in real world "

                          @ Samarth 619

                          Considering your example R15 does hit 10500 rpm in 6th gear before hitting RevLimitter n it does not Reach 150 kmph 70000kms on R15 did 10500rpm more thn a 100 times it neva reached 150kmph !

                          I own a CBR as well same case 170 kmph ...it wont ever
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                          • #613
                            Originally posted by Sunny View Post
                            Patience please, QUALITY takes time Tomorrow afternoon max!
                            Sunny Bhai, the Noon has passed, we still await your reply
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                            • #614
                              Originally posted by L.P. View Post
                              Sunny Bhai, the Noon has passed, we still await your reply
                              How come... Still 11 hours to go....
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                              • #615
                                Originally posted by the_mechanic View Post
                                @ Samarth 619

                                Considering your example R15 does hit 10500 rpm in 6th gear before hitting RevLimitter n it does not Reach 150 kmph 70000kms on R15 did 10500rpm more thn a 100 times it neva reached 150kmph !

                                I own a CBR as well same case 170 kmph ...it wont ever
                                No, R15 in stock condition can never touch rev limiter in 6th gear. Unless there is a magical downhill and the rider's decided on suicide, or if the rider has depressed the clutch a little while accelerating.

                                You must have done 10.5 krpm's in lower gears, not in 6th. A modified R15 can touch rev-limiter in 6th gear though.
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