Superb Handling Package? Somehow the folks at Bike India think otherwise. See Dec Issue 08, Page 97 "Ride Experience"...

He says that the Deltabox frame on R15 is better. I think, the short stroke engine must be vibrating hard. Moreover, Torque is so spread so much, that it gives maximum 13 NM only that too very high up the power band (8500).

EDIT: I thought that 1st post confirmed it.... But, NO, it's about a 125+. I'm HOPE that CBR is coming. Finally, Bikers will have 2 choices in 150 Sports Segment....

It's according to some websites man and biker's forum in Indonesia just like this. If you have the scanned owner's manual..then plz PM me the link.

Where ? When ? can you please guide me to the source of this info.

^^ +10.

Samarth: We are just speculating that it might come. It is not confirmed. But I do hope you are right. I just wish Honda gives it a better looking fairing.

CBR 150 Please

All i can say is that Honda will change their fortunes overnight IF thy launch CBR 150. Seems like a far fetched statement, but try these explanations..
- CBR family is undoubtedly the elite class in biking....
- CBR 150 will not be out of reach of many....(as compared to say CBR1000
or R1)
- Bike looks fantabuluous
- I WANT IT

@samarth - Your bag of assumptions will never end. Yeah right u think the CBR150 is a jerky mill like your pulsars? Have you even felt that bike to comment. And about the BikeIndia guys comments, its the thought of one reporter called Adish and he is no GP Blair.
Also the same guy says in the report that the CBR150 was 6 seconds faster than the R15. Heck the race prepared R15s and CBR150s were doing the same lap times of 2:13s. It was a mis-print in the timing sheet of 2:08(all were aware of it) and our clever reporter logged that into his books. He also says handling is not upto the marks of the R15, while the winner of the CBR cup (emmanuel clarke) who I happen to know personally swears by its exceptional handling and performance. FYI he was racing an R15 in the championship this year so he very well knows what the CBR was doing.
These press reporters were given just 10 mins to try the bike on the track that too at 6.00pm when visibility was almost gone. How much can they evalute in 10 mins and in the end they post some stuff like this. Mind you all these so called reporters are again the most average riders I've seen(except one guy). Nothing great about them otherwise. Goes to saying how well you can trust their road test reports also.

Ouch! I hope its only the bike and not the owners you dislike...

Ok, Read me carefully. What can you do about Physics? In simple words, I mean, Single Cylinder Short Strokes are vibratory, and Honda can't do much about it, except tuning.
I saw it's Youtube video. (below 5krpm & above 10 krpm, it was vibrating heavily) ... You see, a Video is acceptable as a PROOF of something in Xbhp ...

Reg. Adhish, I think he maybe Mistaken, but he won't do it purposely. Bike India, are mistaken at many places too, for other facts & road tests too.

But, what can we do? Other magazines give:--> 2 Articles of Bike : 10 Articles of Cars ... Unfair but true.

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@ Maverick46: I never said all long strokes are refined. Take for example Royal Enfields also vibrate... Getting my message?? But, the vice versa is true, that almost all shortstrokes are vibratory ...

Just coz I mentioned on some thread that the short stroke engine give little vibes, this has caught up. All the SBKs are short stroke engines, so do they produce all the vibes and make it unrideable?
Its all case to case. Also engine like the CBR runs higher compression and hence the engine feels grunty. If you cant make out the difference between grunt and vibes, its sad. The R15 has no grunt untill u seriously work on the engine.
the CBZX has a higher profile cam which adds to the grunt. While the uni has a mild cam and therefore relaxed.
The RTR also has the grunt and a pretty aggressive cam profile. Its all based on the state of tune.

Joel

Arrey mere bhai! I said "Single Cylinder Shortstrokes". All Sbks have more cylinders.

Don't you think a 4 cylinder would be more balanced ... it would have a crankshaft autobalance as when 2 pistons move up, another 2 go down ...

Don't worry, if there is something new, I'll learn for sure ... Comment on UTube video too!

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@ Guys: Can anyone tell me just one "refined Single Shortstroke" for my knowledge please ...

specs of CBR 150
2007 Honda CBR 150R specifications and pictures

On another site I found that it is tuned to run on 91 octane fuel, so they should detune it for India.

Relax Bros!

Yeah joel, eventhough its the truth, chill! Those words might not be suitable for young impressionable minds, especially from a respected member like you!
Pranay, Dont worry, its the product he hates, not us owners!
Guys, relax! Lets not give the mods a headache!
Samarth, Yaar let the short strokes live peacefully!

^oh really. You are a genius man. Oops I didnt realise the CBR150 was a single cylinder. and I have no clue about balancing. Oh yeah single cylinder short stroke engines can never be balanced coz bajaj did not design them. See how TVS goofed on the RTR and Honda too on the CBR150, based on your research "youtube.com". You see youtube is the bible to engine tuning. You can learn so much through vedios. How I wish we all spent 3-4hrs everyday watching youtube, we could beat GP Blair one day.
Hey yes there is one super refined short stroke motor, and you already own it.
Damn!

@Titus - he he he..bugger like u didnt know what I meant. Ofcourse its only the bike. What have I got to do with the individuals.

^ Ok, The short stroke discussion ends here for now. Joel bhai, take it easy, time will tell.

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Don't trust this link 100% guys, it says Wheelbase, Length, Height = 1mm!

Also, it says you need 3 Litres to go 10 kms ... One intriguing fact is that it is Carbueretted! Is it True?