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**kochumvk** · 08-05-2012, 02:06 PM

Originally posted by somen1984 View Post

Went to Hyosung with my friend, and it was awesome from front! Really it has great looks of GT650r... My friend booked it and will get the delivery with in 1 month. But i see people are actually liking this GT250r, my friends booking number is 223 in Thane showroom. Booking made at Rs 50,000/-

OTR is around 3.10L
I too liked the bike!!

Originally posted by nagoo View Post

My friend , if someone says bad about some thing it doesn't mean that its actually bad, everyone has there requirements and according to that they choose there bike, even with new Ninja i may not be buying it , coz its not about how one's bike heritage is , its all about how you feel riding it.
and about GTR take a test ride you will know how smooth it is and refined and in B'lore the Booking numb are around in 70+ as per last week.
the biggest happy thing in new Ninja for me is Digital console and Headlight design

Its there the big feel. But unfortunately the feel is more to eye and the bulk. When it comes to quality, performance and engineering GT easily gives up. And consider the price.

GT looks and weighs like a super-sport bike. But how it will be converted to actual performance, on road or even consider track if the ergonomics is what matters. Air cooled V thats making far less power and too heavy is not so good in town and on a straight its nowhere close to ninja (in fact single CBR is a much better match when it comes to comparison in performance)

on track again GT 250 will have a hard time keeping up with some 200cc singles made in India.

All opinions are just mine just my perspective.(If you find it wrong)

And forgot to mention, that dual disc is just a show stuff and will not match prev- gen ninja or many bikes in its sub classes.

If BAL release the 2013 ninja 250 in late 2013 or early 2014, its near the time when they are also gonna launch KTM moto3 inspired 350cc bike which currently judging the duke 200 i think may be priced between 3-3.5 lakh. And if it happens then it will surely make a dent in ninja 250 s sale within their house (though the ktm will be single cylinder but 350cc!!!!). So bajaj should release the ninja as early as possible and sell as much as ninja they can.

A trim down of that 50HP moto3 machine should be producing at-least 40HP as a production trim and will be ultra light. A true race track machine, many wont care about cylinder count if priced right. but this is not going to be a everyday friendly bike.

**ABikerAtHeart** · 08-05-2012, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by kochumvk View Post

Its there the big feel. But unfortunately the feel is more to eye and the bulk. When it comes to quality, performance and engineering GT easily gives up. And consider the price.

GT looks and weighs like a super-sport bike. But how it will be converted to actual performance, on road or even consider track if the ergonomics is what matters. Air cooled V thats making far less power and too heavy is not so good in town and on a straight its nowhere close to ninja (in fact single CBR is a much better match when it comes to comparison in performance)

on track again GT 250 will have a hard time keeping up with some 200cc singles made in India.

All opinions are just mine just my perspective.(If you find it wrong)

And forgot to mention, that dual disc is just a show stuff and will not match prev- gen ninja or many bikes in its sub classes.

A trim down of that 50HP moto3 machine should be producing at-least 40HP as a production trim and will be ultra light. A true race track machine, many wont care about cylinder count if priced right. but this is not going to be a everyday friendly bike.

I dont find your 'personal perspective wrong' but since its a public forum where reader ALWAYS take everything said here seriously I'm inclined to ask, with due respect Sir, if could you kindly post the Source of your bold claims on the 'quality,performance and engineering of the Gtr250'?

If at all you personally tested the standards of all the bikes you've mentioned in your post, kind establish your credentials here. I insist.

**Shibadip** · 08-05-2012, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by kochumvk View Post

on track again GT 250 will have a hard time keeping up with some 200cc singles made in India.

and as @ABikerAtHeart said, please justify the above statement as well.
BTW, how many India Made 200CC bikes are there other than NS and Duke.

**nitrosatya** · 08-05-2012, 02:48 PM

Originally posted by Shibadip View Post

and as @ABikerAtHeart said, please justify the above statement as well.
BTW, how many India Made 200CC bikes are there other than NS and Duke.

Karizma, Pulsar 220 ?

**ABikerAtHeart** · 08-05-2012, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by nitrosatya View Post

Karizma, Pulsar 220 ?

He said 200, not 200+ na Satyabhai...

Otherwise even the bulletproof REs would be included.

**nagoo** · 08-05-2012, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by kochumvk View Post

Its there the big feel. But unfortunately the feel is more to eye and the bulk. When it comes to quality, performance and engineering GT easily gives up. And consider the price.

GT looks and weighs like a super-sport bike. But how it will be converted to actual performance, on road or even consider track if the ergonomics is what matters. Air cooled V thats making far less power and too heavy is not so good in town and on a straight its nowhere close to ninja (in fact single CBR is a much better match when it comes to comparison in performance)

on track again GT 250 will have a hard time keeping up with some 200cc singles made in India.

All opinions are just mine just my perspective.(If you find it wrong)

And forgot to mention, that dual disc is just a show stuff and will not match prev- gen ninja or many bikes in its sub classes.

.

take a test ride and clear your perspective

in Int'l markets GTR stood 2nd to ninja ..it has some serious punch

Originally posted by ABikerAtHeart View Post

I dont find your 'personal perspective wrong' but since its a public forum where reader ALWAYS take everything said here seriously I'm inclined to ask, with due respect Sir, if could you kindly post the Source of your bold claims on the 'quality,performance and engineering of the Gtr250'?

If at all you personally tested the standards of all the bikes you've mentioned in your post, kind establish your credentials here. I insist.

Originally posted by Shibadip View Post

and as @ABikerAtHeart said, please justify the above statement as well.
BTW, how many India Made 200CC bikes are there other than NS and Duke.

realx guys , he just put his opinion and not the actual ride report, his words based on the info he gathered around net, as we all know the fact that GTR still not on the road here , only couple of ppl tested it and they have quite a good opinion on this bike.
i too took TD of GTR and posted the review on the appropriate thread, only thing i can agree is break part,they still not as good as Ninja but not dull also.

**bprags** · 08-05-2012, 03:00 PM

2013 Kawasaki Ninja 250 - YouTube

What a beautiful moment

**kochumvk** · 08-05-2012, 03:01 PM

Originally posted by ABikerAtHeart View Post

I dont find your 'personal perspective wrong' but since its a public forum where reader ALWAYS take everything said here seriously I'm inclined to ask, with due respect Sir, if could you kindly post the Source of your bold claims on the 'quality,performance and engineering of the Gtr250'?

If at all you personally tested the standards of all the bikes you've mentioned in your post, kind establish your credentials here. I insist.

About Engineering:

188kg ? isn't that too heavy for a 26HP quarter ltr?
Why those twin 300mm rotors up front cant match the braking performance of ninjas single 290mm rotor?
What about the fit and finish , compared to bikes of even lower classes like R15 v2 or Duke?
I have never seen a rusting steering bolt on a below 1 year old bike even on a pulsar but seen on a GT650.

Compare the silencer can for fabrication quality difference.
Tires are not Very good for a 3L machine.

Why this twin is not able to achieve a top speed a 250 single manages?

Actually I am not doing justice comparing a hyosung with manufacturers who produces machines like ZX 10 R or 14. I did that just because of the pricing of the GT250.

I didn't intend to start a brand war here (since I don't own a Ninja) Just replied the query. You can ask about my points to experts who reviewd this bike for xbhp( payeng) if I remember.

Yes we do test bikes. And I hope I am not biased when talking about bikes. Please click my signature to know more about our unbiased reviewing style.

**kochumvk** · 08-05-2012, 03:13 PM

Originally posted by Shibadip View Post

and as @ABikerAtHeart said, please justify the above statement as well.
BTW, how many India Made 200CC bikes are there other than NS and Duke.

Do you guys think GT250 Handles better than Duke 200 ? (actually Duke does not comes with the super-sport ergonomics still)

and Duke falls just 2HP(or less) short. and a whopping 63kg difference in Weight. I am talking about actual facts. Not the bulky superbike stance or fictions.

By the way I do enjoy the way 220 and karizma are dragged in.

you managed to badged me a total fool. Thanks

**Shibadip** · 08-05-2012, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by kochumvk View Post

Do you guys think GT250 Handles better than Duke 200 ? (actually Duke does not comes with the super-sport ergonomics still)

and Duke falls just 2HP(or less) short. and a whopping 63kg difference in Weight. I am talking about actual facts. Not the bulky superbike stance or fictions.

By the way I do enjoy the way 220 and karizma are dragged in.

you managed to badged me a total fool. Thanks

Well specifically putting, u said "GT 250 will have a hard time keeping up with some 200cc singles made in India."
now, realistically, DUKE is the only bike(<200cc) which can give some competition to GT250R.

However, this is a Ninja 2013 thread. Lets not go OT here.

And to clear out my Perspective: I think (just my opinion) what GT250R is offering at the current price point is Rubbish!!

**RascalAngel** · 08-05-2012, 03:32 PM

Considering Bajaj started bookings for new Ninja 650R at ex.Show. price of 5.8lacs which is 80k higher than the outgoing model, expect new Ninja250 to be price

somewhere around 3-3.1lacs Ex.Show.

Originally posted by bprags View Post

2013 Kawasaki Ninja 250 - YouTube

What a beautiful moment

It sounds so loud compared to current generation.

**ABikerAtHeart** · 08-05-2012, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by kochumvk View Post

About Engineering:

188kg ? isn't that too heavy for a 26HP quarter ltr?
I haven't test riden it. Will not make any bold claims.
But as per xBhp review it does NOT feel heavy.

Why those twin 300mm rotors up front cant match the braking performance of ninjas single 290mm rotor?
Ninja has steel braided ones??
Besides,thats the only factor where the Gtr lags behind Ninja but (again as per xBhp review) not far behind.

What about the fit and finish , compared to bikes of even lower classes like R15 v2 or Duke?
Excuse me! Whaaatt?? R15v2 and Duke are premium class products too. What class are you referring here??

I have never seen a rusting steering bolt on a below 1 year old bike even on a pulsar but seen on a GT650.
Read back Sir, you seem lost. We're discussing the Gt250r.
Ot: Come to my city. I'll show you bolts of Hayabusas and R1s. You can decide if they're bad quality 'upper class' products then.

Tires are not Very good for a 3L machine.
That's a first. Kindly let us know how are they not good.

Why this twin is not able to achieve a top speed a 250 single manages?
Joel's R15 with 27hp 'at the wheel' smokes even a Ninja. So?
There's something called tuning. Its tuned that way

Actually I am not doing justice comparing a hyosung with manufacturers who produces machines like ZX 10 R or 14.
Lost again. Its Gtr250 not the top companies of the world.

I didn't intend to start a brand war here (since I don't own a Ninja)Nor do I.

Just replied the query. I'm still waiting for an answer.

You can ask about my points to experts who reviewd this bike for xbhp( payeng) if I remember.
Those were your claims (not points) and they were yours Sir, not xBhp's.

Yes we do test bikes. And I hope I am not biased when talking about bikes. Please click my signature to know more about our unbiased reviewing style.
I clicked your signature and I dont want to voice my opinion since I'd certainly hurt your sentiments and offend you.

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**yash3** · 08-05-2012, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by Shibadip View Post

Well, Now if AutoCar is to be believed (Expect the 2013 Ninja 250R to ride into India some months from now.), the Hyosung's dream will be certainly over!!:P

BTW, the attached Pic says only the Special Editions have ABS

Yes even i Expect the Ninja 2013 to be here soon , Since here in Coimbatore PBK is getting Opened in a week's time , as they have appointed PDI guy , Service Advisor , and Mechanic a month Back , so those guys went for Training , they got trained for the KTM and Ninja 650R , and going for expert Level in some time ! but the 250R is left out

?

?

i asked them why they did not train for 250R

?

PBK Guys : no idea with a big grin

**Shibadip** · 08-05-2012, 03:51 PM

Originally posted by yash3 View Post

Yes even i Expect the Ninja 2013 to be here soon , Since here in Coimbatore PBK is getting Opened in a week's time , as they have appointed PDI guy , Service Advisor , and Mechanic a month Back , so those guys went for Training , they got trained for the KTM and Ninja 650R , and going for expert Level in some time ! but the 250R is left out

?

?

i asked them why they did not train for 250R

?

PBK Guys : no idea with a big grin

Oh, thats verrryyyy, very good news.

But I can only afford it only by 2014!!!!!
God, I hate still being a Student!!

**ABikerAtHeart** · 08-05-2012, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by Shibadip View Post

Well specifically putting, u said "GT 250 will have a hard time keeping up with some 200cc singles made in India."
now, realistically, DUKE is the only bike(<200cc) which can give some competition to GT250R.

However, this is a Ninja 2013 thread. Lets not go OT here.

And to clear out my Perspective: I think (just my opinion) what GT250R is offering at the current price point is Rubbish!!

I'll only 2nd that last time given its barely a couple of thousands from the almighty Ninja.

But still there needs justification on the bashing up of Gt250r.

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