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  • #16
    Only tangible benefit of fuel injection is the hassle free (choke free) starts in the mornings.

    Other benefits like increase in fuel efficiency, power are exaggerated and can hardly be perceived (if any). The only reason why Fi would finally make it on motorcycles would be to adhere to pollution norms when they become very very stringent (like cars finally had to do 15 years back in India).


    Only from the point of view to the normal customer (the ones who make up the bulk who buy the motorcycles and keeps the companies afloat). They would glefully pay 20K extra for a full faired bike than pay 15K extra for Fi.. (never mind even if there is no increase in performance or the plastics weigh 10Kg extra due to the full fairing).


    Personally I would prefer a Fi system for 15K extra than a full fairing.


    Originally posted by The Mountain View Post
    I think adding FI to the bike, however, is an excellent idea. Then Bajaj can scrap that stupid 3-plug head casting and go back to a single plug.

    Dumping that expensive piece should more than make up for the added cost of switching to FI (though they'll still be out the cost of developing the molding, at least they can reduce the cost by using the head casting from the big-brother Duke).
    Dude that "stupid" third spark plug saves you 6K when you have to replace the silencer.

    And how come have you arrived at the costing details of the extra plus vs. adding Fi..?? Wild assumptions I guess.



    Last edited by payeng; 01-09-2013, 12:56 PM.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by NewsReaper View Post
      Would the Indian biker want Fuel Injection and ABS on their 200NS and what premium should such added features cost?
      10K for the Fi, 10K for ABS. I don't mind if the Power is identical to the carb (current) version, but a slight increase in the Torque would be lovely.

      Plus would be great if a "Projector" Low Beam and LED DRL's are thrown in as extra goodies.




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      • #18
        Make ABS Mandatory in all future vehicle, and looking at other bajaj parts price & sales/marketting funda it won't be as costly as the on Apache have .... If it come's with both FI & ABS then it might be 15k hike in OG price ... but it's worthy ... Atleast ABS is worthy...

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        • #19
          Originally posted by The Mountain View Post

          I think adding FI to the bike, however, is an excellent idea. Then Bajaj can scrap that stupid 3-plug head casting and go back to a single plug. Dumping that expensive piece should more than make up for the added cost of switching to FI (though they'll still be out the cost of developing the molding, at least they can reduce the cost by using the head casting from the big-brother Duke).
          If they do that, then how do they differentiate Duke from Pulsar? then both will have FI+ABS+same head, so why would someone pay premium to buy Duke 200 over P200NS?
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          • #20
            Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post
            If they do that, then how do they differentiate Duke from Pulsar? then both will have FI+ABS+same head, so why would someone pay premium to buy Duke 200 over P200NS?
            because it's not bajaj....people have cheap image of bajaj...duke has very good fit and finish...u pay premium for quality u get and also for orange day

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            • #21
              Yes Duke looks & feels Class Apart....when compared to P200
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              • #22
                FI is good. ABS is great..... Provided, it aint C-ABS,like CBR. I would rather prefer Individual wheel ABS like the RTRs, which are VFM.
                But, do you think, it would sale in good numbers?? I am skeptical,after seeing the no of RTR ABS/CBR ABS being sold in comparision to the non ABS versions.... But they should always have an option for the enthusiasts atleast, to keep them interested.
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                • #23

                  welcome move,provided no faulty fi system like previous gen 220.
                  personally would love to see fairing in place.
                  abs:not really,brakes are more than sufficient,better plonk good rubbers.
                  Last edited by sayank10; 01-10-2013, 05:06 PM.
                  and the question remains why do i race?
                  every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

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                  (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by sayank10 View Post

                    welcome move,provided no faulty fi system like previous gen 220.
                    personally would love to see fairing in place.
                    abs:not really,brakes are more than sufficient,better plonk good rubbers.
                    A faired FI will be awesome.
                    But what was the fault in previous gen P220's FI system?
                    Last edited by Ivin; 01-10-2013, 09:50 PM.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by sayank10 View Post

                      welcome move,provided no faulty fi system like previous gen 220.
                      personally would love to see fairing in place.
                      abs:not really,brakes are more than sufficient,better plonk good rubbers.
                      Faulty Fi system???? Can you elaborate??
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                      • #26
                        ^^^Delphi ,which provided fi system for both 220 fi and rtr fi had fuel-pump issues in some model.
                        and the question remains why do i race?
                        every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

                        #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
                        #overkill is underrated.
                        #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
                        #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road
                        (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
                          ^^^Delphi ,which provided fi system for both 220 fi and rtr fi had fuel-pump issues in some model.

                          Even ZMR and R15 had issues with fuel pump in some models. That doesnt mean its a failure or a fault FI system
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                          • #28
                            In my 75000kms of run, Fuel Pump was replaced once!!!
                            Let's not deviate from the topic. Unlike P220 this is a understandable progression. Launch a carb version & then Fi. My only wish is that they continue both.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Ivin View Post
                              Even ZMR and R15 had issues with fuel pump in some models. That doesnt mean its a failure or a fault FI system
                              zmr's pgm-fi ,developed by honda,is a gem,so is yamaha's 6 hole injection system unlike delphi's fi system which is of inferior quality,that's why both rtr-fi and 220 fi was discontinued.
                              and the question remains why do i race?
                              every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

                              #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
                              #overkill is underrated.
                              #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
                              #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road
                              (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
                                zmr's pgm-fi ,developed by honda,is a gem,so is yamaha's 6 hole injection system unlike delphi's fi system which is of inferior quality,that's why both rtr-fi and 220 fi was discontinued.
                                i feel bajaj will use closed loop fi system from bosch as same is used in duke 200....

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