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  • #46
    Originally posted by Nithesh View Post
    Because a certain Indian two wheeler manufacturer has already stolen that design?
    Well, there is none. And if you think Pulsar 200 NS has design clues from CB1000R then you think negative. Or dont have power to think well.

    It would be good to see the real scaled down version of CB1000R just like the R15 if of R1.
    :) :D

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Nithesh View Post
      Because a certain Indian two wheeler manufacturer has already stolen that design? .
      Definitely twister is one attempt at it!!


      Well, there is none. And if you think Pulsar 200 NS has design clues from CB1000R then you think negative. Or dont have power to think well.

      It would be good to see the real scaled down version of CB1000R just like the R15 if of R1.
      Head lamp does have similar outer shape.
      Then again many nakeds have that similarities. A designer from BMW will not be that bad?

      Originally posted by Nithesh View Post
      So you buy a bike because it looks good. Not because of how it performs and how reliable it is? Interesting.
      And where did you find the price tag from?
      Design is also important! otherwise nobody will be running disgn studios and nobody will be paying them huge numbers.
      After all a 16Hp motor is no fancy thing in India now. I don't think CBR 150 is better than R15 when it comes to quality of engineering and reliability.

      When a better or similar product is available in the market why should one buy paying more just because the motor is imported and it have a Honda badge!
      That doesn't makes sense to me.

      All said this will be nice buy at 85k on road
      Last edited by kochumvk; 02-12-2013, 05:46 PM.
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      • #48
        Originally posted by kochumvk View Post
        why should one buy paying more
        Because its a DOHC ? SOHC vs DOHC Valvetrains: A Comparison
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        • #49
          Looks are not so good man, the Engine is obviously great but the tyres are too skinny. & Its Overpriced too. Dosent look massive.
          Royal Enfield Bullet Standard 350cc 1989, Bajaj Avenger 200-2009, Pulsar 200 NS 2015.

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          • #50
            When has Honda announced the prices for this bike? I am with Satyamzma if the price is 90k or less I will definitely buy it and antz.bin(moderator) has mentioned earlier why this product is good.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Touseef Ahmed Mohammed View Post
              Its Overpriced too. Dosent look massive.
              Prices are not announced dear... For massive looks you already have ZMR, CBR250r Bikes
              Don't Honk Unnecessarily

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Nithesh View Post
                That was a nice article. Thanks bro.

                Few quotes from this article says:

                Most of the time it also allows the engine to rev higher.

                If a SOHC setup can allow 4 valves per cylinder, having a DOHC engine will not bring that much benefits over SOHC and the additional weight becomes a burden instead.


                So to sum it all up, SOHC has better low-end power, DOHC has better high-end power and overall maximum power. 4 valves per cylinder is much better than 2 valves per cylinder and it doesn’t matter whether 4-valves is achieved via SOHC or DOHC.
                My understandings from above points and the graph given there:

                1. If a four valve configuration can be achieved with SOHC it is preferable over DOHC at least for small engines.
                2. Since A high revving engine is not preferred on a naked street bike, high revving nature of DOHC motor is not really of any use in a small street bike.
                3. SOHC have better low end power. (also from the graphs) That is ideal for a street bike.

                Related to point 3: I found CBR 150 R have really less torque at bottom. On the other hand SOHC R15 have little bit more juice down there.


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                • #53
                  Originally posted by kochumvk View Post

                  That was a nice article. Thanks bro.


                  If you wish to discuss pros and cons of SOHC and DOHC, please continue here:



                  So that this thread can be used as a ready reference for later instead of discussing it each and every time a new DOHC bike is launched.
                  Advice is a form of nostalgia.
                  Dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it's worth.

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                  • #54
                    I am still wondering, what are the real competitors of this bike? FZ/NS ?? In that case, both look much better than this. The only saving grace is the 'pillion seat'. Now, why would people buy this, instead of ZMA, which would be the better tourer??
                    HH Dawn - TVS Star City - Yamaha Gladiator - TVS RTR 180 - Honda CBR 250R - Yamaha R3

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Nithesh View Post
                      Will DOHC make so much of difference in a 150cc engine, and with R15's 4 valve there is hardly any advantage for CBR's DOHC. And what about the inferior switchgear, cheap footpegs?
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                      • #56
                        If priced correctly people might by it for the technology despite the disappointing 100cc commuter look.

                        Also dont forget it outperforms the current naked/street 150cc bikes.



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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by sambit View Post
                          Now, why would people buy this, instead of ZMA, which would be the better tourer??
                          Very good Question

                          I think of few reasons--

                          1.Novelty Factor(ZMA & 220 are old bikes)
                          2.Typical Fuel Injection Advantages
                          3.Better chassis & Suspension
                          3.Lower weight(ZMA & 220 are quite heavy Bikes)
                          4.Brand Value
                          Don't Honk Unnecessarily

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by rohithraghav View Post
                            Will DOHC make so much of difference in a 150cc engine, and with R15's 4 valve there is hardly any advantage for CBR's DOHC. And what about the inferior switchgear, cheap footpegs?
                            If you have ridden the 150R and the R15 back to back You will notice the difference. One has linear power delivery throughout the rpm band from the bottom while the other grunts once past a certain rpm on the upper side of the revv range. One is a torquey mid range powerhouse while the other is a revv hungry screamer. Similar to the CBR(250) and Ninja in a way. CBR(250) has a wide powerband from the bottom of the revv range where it peaks at 9k rpm and then runs out of gas while the Ninja comes alive when revved past a certain x rpm to make you realize the difference.
                            On a tight track with many curves you need a broader powerband in the midrange but for the long straights you need a bike that comes alive at higher rpms and does not fade out until it redlines.

                            Again footpegs quality i am not sure about because the bikes i've tested and have seen around me are of acceptable quality atleast standing next to my 250R. How does one grade a footpeg quality when the sole purpose of a footpeg is to be stomped upon? The switchgear could have been better with a couple of extra options but its not something that comes in the way of how the bike performs. Back in the 90's bikes rarely had the pass light or the engine kill switches and people never had any issue living without it. Sure you could argue that bikes costing less than this come with such basic "passlights"/"kill switch" buttons but there are scooters coming with speedometers that change colour for certain rpm and are programmable(Rodeo), tell us when the next service is due(RTR), projector headlamps(P220), Distance to empty, Average fuel consumption and what not..
                            Question is:
                            Do i need it on my bike? - Hell yeah!
                            Can i live without it? - Ofcourse i can.
                            Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Nithesh View Post
                              If you have ridden the 150R and the R15 back to back You will notice the difference. One has linear power delivery throughout the rpm band from the bottom while the other grunts once past a certain rpm on the upper side of the revv range..
                              I don't think those differences are related to DOHC or SOHC. I can be wrong here too





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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Nithesh View Post
                                Do i need it on my bike? - Hell yeah!
                                Can i live without it? - Ofcourse i can.
                                Serious OT
                                Well, I certainly cant live without the flash light switch. Its so hard, when I take my old Dawn onto the highway. Once you are used to an added advantage, You would never be comfortable with something less (even my 7 years old StaR city has flash light).
                                But CBR still sells(even though, not as expected) in descent numbers, due to its superb design.
                                Now, you cant expect these features on the new CB150R either. And it doesnt have the looks either. Better if honda get rid of the liquid cooling,give it a price tag of 80K OTR and replace the dazzle, it would be more practical, to take on FZ16.
                                HH Dawn - TVS Star City - Yamaha Gladiator - TVS RTR 180 - Honda CBR 250R - Yamaha R3

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