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**dineshaugustin** · 08-26-2014, 12:12 PM

Re: Hero HX250r revealed, with 31ps Liquid Cooled Engine: xBhp News

Originally posted by Satyamzma View Post

Tipping the scale at just 139kg, the Hero HX250R will have an impressive power-to-weight ratio of 223PS/ton. This means this Hero will produce 6PS more than the Honda CBR250R and weigh 28kg less than the Japanese bike!

Amazing to know all this.. CBR 250 Killer is coming soon

but CBR with price hike...!!!!! and even after retuning power is lesser than HX theoretically..though riding quality is very good. lets wait and see.

**kusmaker** · 08-26-2014, 12:21 PM

Re: Hero HX250r revealed, with 31ps Liquid Cooled Engine: xBhp News

It's quite possible that this bike might be based on the lines of CBR 250r as Honda bike is also singly cylinder and so is the HX.

**rreneav1987** · 08-26-2014, 12:25 PM

Re: Hero HX250r revealed, with 31ps Liquid Cooled Engine: xBhp News

Originally posted by kusmaker View Post

It's quite possible that this bike might be based on the lines of CBR 250r as Honda bike is also singly cylinder and so is the HX.

i don't think so as Hero has already mentioned the engine was developed by them with the help of EBR professionals.. besides, if they were sharing the engine of CBR, then Hero would have to pay heavy amount to Honda. I don't think Hero would want to do that...

**Jitu Badlani** · 08-26-2014, 12:57 PM

Re: Hero HX250r revealed, with 31ps Liquid Cooled Engine: xBhp News

Originally posted by kusmaker View Post

It's quite possible that this bike might be based on the lines of CBR 250r as Honda bike is also singly cylinder and so is the HX.

No the bike is not at all based on CBR 250R, there's a new frame with a new potent 2500cc engine too.
Was reading an article on HX250R by Motorcycle Daily & read a comment by a modifier there, he stated that EBR have done a very clever work in designing the 250cc engine, he also stated that this engine could work as a base for developing a higher displacement 360cc engine all they need to do is increasing the stroke length, bringing in bigger valve & changing the camshaft whereas the rings, gaskets, bearings, oil pump, and most importantly cases and cranks could be shared between different displacement and different performance spec versions.
& guys I have a query what does 'over square' means in the term "The engine being so OVER SQUARE''

**Divya Sharan** · 08-26-2014, 01:07 PM

Re: Hero HX250r revealed, with 31ps Liquid Cooled Engine: xBhp News

Originally posted by Jitu Badlani View Post

& guys I have a query what does 'over square' means in the term "The engine being so OVER SQUARE''

An engine is described as oversquare or short-stroke if its cylinders have a greater bore diameter than its stroke length, giving a bore/stroke ratio greater than 1:1.

Stroke ratio - Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stroke_ratio#Square.2C_oversquare_and_undersquare_engines

**kusmaker** · 08-26-2014, 01:56 PM

Re: Hero HX250r revealed, with 31ps Liquid Cooled Engine: xBhp News

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

i don't think so as Hero has already mentioned the engine was developed by them with the help of EBR professionals.. besides, if they were sharing the engine of CBR, then Hero would have to pay heavy amount to Honda. I don't think Hero would want to do that...

No no iam not saying that Hero is borrowing engine from Honda, hero will not make such a mistake, they want to establish themselves as an proper automotive company who has got his own R&D centre, what i am saying is that they might have kept the Cbr in there mind while designing this bike, after all they have to first compete with Honda in there game.

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Originally posted by Jitu Badlani View Post

No the bike is not at all based on CBR 250R, there's a new frame with a new potent 2500cc engine too.
Was reading an article on HX250R by Motorcycle Daily & read a comment by a modifier there, he stated that EBR have done a very clever work in designing the 250cc engine, he also stated that this engine could work as a base for developing a higher displacement 360cc engine all they need to do is increasing the stroke length, bringing in bigger valve & changing the camshaft whereas the rings, gaskets, bearings, oil pump, and most importantly cases and cranks could be shared between different displacement and different performance spec versions.
& guys I have a query what does 'over square' means in the term "The engine being so OVER SQUARE''

If Hero's this 250 cc bike prove to be successfull then it will pave way for the future products of higher capacity models.

**rreneav1987** · 08-26-2014, 01:59 PM

Re: Hero HX250r revealed, with 31ps Liquid Cooled Engine: xBhp News

Originally posted by kusmaker View Post

No no iam not saying that Hero is borrowing engine from Honda, hero will not make such a mistake, they want to establish themselves as an proper automotive company who has got his own R&D centre, what i am saying is that they might have kept the Cbr in there mind while designing this bike, after all they have to first compete with Honda in there game.

If Hero's this 250 cc bike prove to be successfull then it will pave way for the future products of higher capacity models.

Ah.. Now I understand.. yeah.. Seems legit

their focus is to compete with Honda it looks like.. if this bike is good (EBR bike are generally at top except they are over priced) then Hero is going to have a rock solid future.. also their new RnD head from BMW.. Designs are gonna be sexy.. waiting for them to start the production.. and I am waiting for an inline 4 from hero

Otherwise it is a Daytona 675 for me no matter how long it takes.. I can wait for 10 years and I am sure my ZMR will do justice for me till then and forever

**kusmaker** · 08-26-2014, 02:14 PM

Re: Hero HX250r revealed, with 31ps Liquid Cooled Engine: xBhp News

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

Ah.. Now I understand.. yeah.. Seems legit

their focus is to compete with Honda it looks like.. if this bike is good (EBR bike are generally at top except they are over priced) then Hero is going to have a rock solid future.. also their new RnD head from BMW.. Designs are gonna be sexy.. waiting for them to start the production.. and I am waiting for an inline 4 from hero

Otherwise it is a Daytona 675 for me no matter how long it takes.. I can wait for 10 years and I am sure my ZMR will do justice for me till then and forever

Inline 4 cylinders from hero well if they can achieve this feat then this company will become giant, but to achieve this task they should then focus on world of motorcycle racing, all three of these motorcycle manufacturer, Yamaha, Honda and Suzuki has pretty long history of racing, which has given them enormous amount of knowledge and learning from race track and the learning then transfers to road bikes.

You can keep ZMR with you as long as the parts are available,these bikes are pretty rock solid and nothing goes wrong with Hero bikes most of the times.

**rreneav1987** · 08-26-2014, 02:24 PM

Re: Hero HX250r revealed, with 31ps Liquid Cooled Engine: xBhp News

Originally posted by kusmaker View Post

Inline 4 cylinders from hero well if they can achieve this feat then this company will become giant, but to achieve this task they should then focus on world of motorcycle racing, all three of these motorcycle manufacturer, Yamaha, Honda and Suzuki has pretty long history of racing, which has given them enormous amount of knowledge and learning from race track and the learning then transfers to road bikes.

You can keep ZMR with you as long as the parts are available,these bikes are pretty rock solid and nothing goes wrong with Hero bikes most of the times.

Well, they are the major sponsors for EBR racing in SBK and I guess they would have access to the bikes from EBR.. so, I guess it is quite possible for Hero to come up with a 600 + beast sooner that we expected from an Indian Manufacturer

of course, the Hastur is already a concept which is going to be live by the end of next year

it is getting exciting..

regarding the HX250R.. its going to give a tough competition to the Honda India stable.. Waiting for the HX250R.. being developed with the help of EBR professionals, I am quite sure the bike is going to be ultra smooth and the reliability is going to be as good.. refinement i am not sure about as the Americans never were able to bring in refinement like the Japs did

**kusmaker** · 08-26-2014, 02:54 PM

Re: Hero HX250r revealed, with 31ps Liquid Cooled Engine: xBhp News

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

Well, they are the major sponsors for EBR racing in SBK and I guess they would have access to the bikes from EBR.. so, I guess it is quite possible for Hero to come up with a 600 + beast sooner that we expected from an Indian Manufacturer

of course, the Hastur is already a concept which is going to be live by the end of next year

it is getting exciting..

regarding the HX250R.. its going to give a tough competition to the Honda India stable.. Waiting for the HX250R.. being developed with the help of EBR professionals, I am quite sure the bike is going to be ultra smooth and the reliability is going to be as good.. refinement i am not sure about as the Americans never were able to bring in refinement like the Japs did

Well i believe Americans have a different approach towards automobiles be it Motorcycles or Cars, they want them as badass and noisy as they could be, that's why they have got bigger engines, with lots of torque although the longs freeways in America also promotes this kinds of vehicles.

Japs want there engines to be smooth, silent, and super duper reliable.

**rreneav1987** · 08-26-2014, 03:49 PM

Re: Hero HX250r revealed, with 31ps Liquid Cooled Engine: xBhp News

Originally posted by kusmaker View Post

Well i believe Americans have a different approach towards automobiles be it Motorcycles or Cars, they want them as badass and noisy as they could be, that's why they have got bigger engines, with lots of torque although the longs freeways in America also promotes this kinds of vehicles.

Japs want there engines to be smooth, silent, and super duper reliable.

Gotta accept.. The muscle cars.. Ford Mustang.. what a beauty she is.. Chevy Corvette.. the Dodge charger, viper..

I am going OT.. sorry mods

**kusmaker** · 08-26-2014, 07:28 PM

Re: Hero HX250r revealed, with 31ps Liquid Cooled Engine: xBhp News

Yeah bit of OT but still glued and eagerly waiting for this beautiful looking Hero bike Hx from Hero.But hero should test the bike properly before launching, surely they don't want to goof up the bike as this bike is the most important factor for the future of the company.

**sibun** · 08-26-2014, 10:19 PM

Re: Hero HX250r revealed, with 31ps Liquid Cooled Engine: xBhp News

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

Gotta accept.. The muscle cars.. Ford Mustang.. what a beauty she is.. Chevy Corvette.. the Dodge charger, viper..

I am going OT.. sorry mods

Ya i love muscle cars. Be it Ford mustang, chevy corvette, camarao, dodge charger and viper, and mother of all Shelby Gt 500 cobra. They have raw power and torque to uproot tarmac from the ground. But Hero will not do that as they know indian customers more than anybody else.

I like Vin diesel when he drives muscle cars in fast & furious series. Strangely i do not like modern sleek cars. Even in bikes i like simpler looking bikes than sporty and garish looking bikes.

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Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

Gotta accept.. The muscle cars.. Ford Mustang.. what a beauty she is.. Chevy Corvette.. the Dodge charger, viper..

I am going OT.. sorry mods

Ya i love muscle cars. Be it Ford mustang, chevy corvette, camarao, dodge charger and viper, and mother of all Shelby Gt 500 cobra. They have raw power and torque to uproot tarmac from the ground. But Hero will not do that as they know indian customers more than anybody else.

I like Vin diesel when he drives muscle cars in fast & furious series. Strangely i do not like modern sleek cars. Even in bikes i like simpler looking bikes than sporty and garish looking bikes.

**abhi7013** · 08-26-2014, 11:42 PM

Re: Hero HX250r revealed, with 31ps Liquid Cooled Engine: xBhp News

Will the name not be changed? Heard during launch time that the name may be changed from HX250 to something else.

**pravinan** · 08-27-2014, 12:00 AM

Re: Hero HX250r revealed, with 31ps Liquid Cooled Engine: xBhp News

The name may not be changed. but i like it to be named as karizma 250r. then it means it will be a sucessor of karizma twins. the name KARIZMA is a icon.

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