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**ken cool** · 04-26-2010, 10:19 AM

Originally posted by MG_Biker1806 View Post

First thing, I doubt the credibility of the news even though it came as a news item in Zigwheels. Kawasaki coming to India, Ninja 250R availavility in India + some speculation and you have a news item.

I doubt it big time too. Pure speculation it seems!

Originally posted by MG_Biker1806 View Post

Second thing, without price estimation the above poll doesn't make much of a sense to me. People are just blindly selecting ZX-6R

Agree here as well.

Originally posted by nitrosatya View Post

@Kenda: I accept that the ER series makes so much more sense. But I would like to ride a R series bike until my back can take it. I don't want to die a track bike virgin!

After that i will definitely have to ride upright seated bike.

For that you have the 1000RR, R1, the Busa, we certainly do not need another back-breaking, wrist-twisting, stiff-neck-inducing killer monster on the roads!

Originally posted by nitrosatya View Post

@ Satyen: A single cylinder bike is never as smooth as a multi one!

Depends

Originally posted by payeng View Post

But just rewind your own experience when you had NOT got your first "R" bike.. that would I believe explain the craving for "R" bikes.

I was a bike illiterate person then. Honestly I did not even know the existence of something like a Fazer1000 or anything similar. I saw everybody out to buy a R bike. I saw the resale value. And I never thought about keeping a bike long term. The moment I think about keeping and actually using a bike, I think it is really stupid to go and buy an R bike. As I was saying, I did not have bike education. Had I been brought up in societies where biking is a mature activity, I am certain, I would have never bought an R1. I do not have any friend abroad, be of any age, who rides an R bike. People are focussed. They want a usable bike. Not something on which you can take a photograph with and can take to track to beat the times of the others.

Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post

For example, I prefer a 650f or Duke, despite being only 23. I believe even Aryan bro is also roughly the same age as me...

Aryan bro is roughly not the same age as you!

Rest of your post makes sense!

Originally posted by TenHut View Post

Supersports/Superbikes are miracles of motorcycle engineering and should be treated as that.

the 650R handles like a joke.

Superbikes maybe a miracle and the 650R may handle like a joke, but it still handles better than my R1 in the middle of Nehru Place during rush hour!

Originally posted by cool_dude_sunn_y View Post

650R is the most practical bike ever ridden by me outside India and i own one, it was a tough decision for me to make and i am glad i made the right one

Manoeuvring 650R is a dream, its as good as my CBZ. Its a low rev machine, and can beat R6 without an effort till 100-110 M/Hr and offcourse then R6 zooms away as 650R doesn't go beyond 132 M/Hr.

I ride it everday for 50+ miles and have been for 7+ hrs rides at a stretch and this baby works like a dream

Finally somebody who owns it speaks it! Thank you.

Originally posted by cool_dude_sunn_y View Post

I am so glad that it might become available in India, as i dont have to worry about getting mine back home.... Ye Ye

Nothing is coming to India as of now as I see it!

**svjhonda** · 04-26-2010, 10:20 AM

I'd say one supersport, one City bike.

So the 650r and the ZX6r, because Bajaj won't want to overlap a KTM & a Kawasaki bike.

Bring the 2 Kwacks, people will get crazy, and that buys you time to get the Katooms in.

**vikaskurup** · 04-26-2010, 10:52 AM

i have seriously lost trust on the media and the companies about the launch of their new bikes..

**sheelpriye** · 04-26-2010, 11:59 AM

You be happy with your (zx-6R/650R/Duke) and let me be happy with mine (Super duke/ER/ZX)
Launch all and we all should be happy

@Ten--isn't my sign good(yup, it is copied)

**TenHut** · 04-26-2010, 12:31 PM

Originally posted by sheelpriye View Post

@Ten--isn't my sign good(yup, it is copied)

haha...give the 6 a set of corners and it will be faster than the 10

**kochumvk** · 04-26-2010, 01:26 PM

need ZX 6R, rather than 65 bhp 2cylinder.

**satyenpoojary** · 04-26-2010, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by nitrosatya View Post

@Kenda: I accept that the ER series makes so much more sense. But I would like to ride a R series bike until my back can take it. I don't want to die a track bike virgin!

After that i will definitely have to ride upright seated bike.

@ Satyen: A single cylinder bike is never as smooth as a multi one!

I ride a souped vibeRTR

- (thats my response to smoothness)
Had some short stints with the 690 while in spore and I like the bike for its insanity!

Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post

Guys, I believe age is not directly related to choice of bikes.

For example, I prefer a 650f or Duke, despite being only 23. I believe even Aryan bro is also roughly the same age as me...

The thing is that we both need a bike with reasonable
power, but should be rideable at 40 kmph too.. Sporty, torquey and comfortable enough for both commuting and touring.
And thats why we choose 650r or duke. It is related to our "perception of future usage" rather than age.

Although, I would love zx6r, but not in my city for sure!
And since, so many guys are showing intrest, I can always borrow one for a small ride, cant I?

From what I underlined, the KTMs would be a pain to commute under 50KMPH, a 650R would be more apt for you boy!

Originally posted by killer_instinct View Post

A very valid point. If this news is for real then Bajaj would definitely consider this.

With India having just 2 race tracks that too both down south and then the indian city roads... Finding sense for a ZX6r is difficult.

But how many people use sense when buying a superbike.

Make more racetracks in India and I will start saving money for a 600 or a liter class.

A quick recap on the legal bikes we have
R1, MT01, Fireblade, CB1000, Busa, Intruder, and soon the Gixxer

There, every manufacturer brough one r - pedigree bike first! I am sure they saw money ahead of the number of race tracks, road conditions and blah blah.... so much for people\manufacturers using sense to buy\sell one!

Originally posted by niks_devil666 View Post

Duke for me , anyday , anytime , anywhere .

From the list , 650R (sadly) makes the most practical choice .

+1 and +1

Originally posted by svjhonda View Post

I'd say one supersport, one City bike.

So the 650r and the ZX6r, because Bajaj won't want to overlap a KTM & a Kawasaki bike.

Bring the 2 Kwacks, people will get crazy, and that buys you time to get the Katooms in.

For all practical reasons I think this is what will happen....

but if someone from Bajaj is reading this then food for thought:
The Duke is a mad arse "low tech bike" as compared to the 650R or 6R or any other Kwacker you get to India.
Dividing your market into two logical segments of people who would want to buy them....
1) The fanboys:
Ofcourse people (like me) who are KTM fanboys will still want to buy it...... then the only deciding questions are
a) Would we wait for the KTMs? (if so how long)
b) Can you price them competitively as compared to the 650R ?

The non-fanboys/ and probably also the ones with more money
a) Would they buy a non faired, single cylinder, weird looking bike when they have (and in all probablities cheaper) better looking/perfomring/sounding bike?

**Shivanshu** · 04-26-2010, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post

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A quick recap on the legal bikes we have
R1, MT01, Fireblade, CB1000, Busa, Intruder, and soon the Gixxer

you left Vmax brother.

**satyenpoojary** · 04-26-2010, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by Shivanshu View Post

you left Vmax brother.

Ah right vMax

that is a good addition to another not so practical bike!

**nagoo** · 04-26-2010, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by akshays View Post

I vote for the Ninja ZX-6R alll the way.
@Bluevolt: I do understand ur point of view, there are a lot of tourers.... but if its 5-9 lacs we're putting in we would prefer to buy something which is AWE-Inspiring and something we would 'worship'. Atleast I would and I know a lot of people of my age group would (22-38yrs). And I do understand that the Ninja 650R (ER-6f) is a very practical bike, which you can use everyday, but as it is a big bike you would never dream of parking it in any place out of your 'sight'. So I am not sure of everyday usability, I also drove the 650R and it blows too much hot air on your thighs.And it doesn't look all that beautiful in person.

. I do agree it would be great value and it has enough horsepower for our roads, but for most of us we would prefer something radical and practical. so compared to the litre class bikes I feel ZX-6R is very practical.. But at the same time even though its a track oriented bike, its won the 2009 supersports shootout,
2009 Kawasaki ZX-6R Comparison - Kawasaki Sportbike Motorcycle Comparison Review - Motorcycle USA
Its just a few points behind the HONDA CBR600RR on the street, overall its a clear winner.
The 2010 model is not very diffrent from the 2009 model, that is if the 2010 ZX-6R comes to India.

and also @Bluevolt: No offense intended. I just wanted to justify myself and few of my buddies why we want a decent supersposts under Rs.10 lacs, which I feel is very buyable for us middle class people compared to the superbikes

^^ ..100% i'll support ur view .. putting 5-6lac and buying a bike .. if most of indian ppl hear it .. first thing they say is about style and 2nd things they think either our father has lot of illigal money or we are just mad to spend it on bike. anyway .. ZX-6R for sure ....

@ALL ... plz go and vote for it on zigwheels

**sheelpriye** · 04-26-2010, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by TenHut View Post

haha...give the 6 a set of corners and it will be faster than the 10

YouTube - DRZ 400 SUPERMOTO CHASING A SUPER FAST R1 ON THE SNAKE.mp4

^^

Originally posted by csgup1 View Post

1000's dont lap faster on absolutely every track. 600's can generally carry more corner speed , but thousands thave a time and half the power so they can more than make up the time on the straight bits.

Originally posted by sheelpriye View Post

say if we are going up & down a hill(full of corners) the 600's should be faster most of the time,

going up 'coz they can hold on gears for longer(know 1000's make way more power)

and down 'coz they are more agile & nimble, right?

Originally posted by csgup1 View Post

they feel lighter and you can put the power down earlier in a corner. its something you have to experience riding both one after the other. its got nothing to do iwht holding gears. if anything you have to shift more often on a 600 coz you need to stay in the top quater of the rev range

We can carry endless discussions over here--

xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/superbike-imports/5546-general-sbk-discussion-thread.html

^shall edit/delete my this OT post later

**ken cool** · 04-26-2010, 06:23 PM

Originally posted by nagoo View Post

.. ZX-6R for sure ....

@ALL ... plz go and vote for it on zigwheels

Yeah sure!!! Like hell I would!

**payeng** · 04-26-2010, 07:40 PM

Wha about the 125 cc KTMs..??

Many xBhpians seem to want the European Yamaha YZF 125...

Doesn't anybody want the 125 cc, liquid cooled KTMs that are being made by Bajaj and will be sold sold in Europe by the end of 2010? (Source:Economic Times)

**satyenpoojary** · 04-26-2010, 07:46 PM

How much do we expect it to be price and spec wise!

**payeng** · 04-26-2010, 07:58 PM

Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post

How much do we expect it to be price and spec wise!

Specs wise, I guess it sould be the same as the other 125's as per the European countries allow.. i.e 15Ps max for motorcycles upto 125 cc (to pass licencing laws for beginners and attract a low insurance rate)..

no idea about pricing.

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