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  • Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
    more or less reasonably priced.
    Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
    Comparitively, cheap yes bud.
    I would assume Korean courier service pays well. As you might already be aware, the biking community outside of India is pretty different, this is a place where young ladies use N250R as a beginner/training bike and their lawnmowers are equally powered as our homegrown Pulsars.

    So, No offense taken as this comes from a completely different context, to each his own opinion.

    I dont know if you know this, here's a snapshot of my first service bill,
    Let alone the spares. I'll let you decide whether the cost of oil, oil-filter and chain lube is "real cheap" or "reasonable priced".

    I once had my RVM broken and it costs 7.5k for the replacement, the SVC wont sell sell you only one, have to be bought in pairs.
    The 250 shares many chassis/fiber/misc panel elements with the 650. So this applies for the 250R as well.

    Out of first hand experience, I dont think the spares are dirt cheap or well priced. The only good factor is the availability, so - they get away with it.

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    • Originally posted by Brat View Post
      I once had my RVM broken and it costs 7.5k for the replacement, the SVC wont sell sell you only one, have to be bought in pairs.
      The 250 shares many chassis/fiber/misc panel elements with the 650. So this applies for the 250R as well.
      650 rule cannot be applied to 250 although parts sharing are evident.your servicing bill looks reasonable to me.
      but rvm price is just bank-looting.
      and the question remains why do i race?
      every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

      #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
      #overkill is underrated.
      #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
      #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road

      (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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      • ^ ya. My first free service.. bill came to around 4800/- so cheap.. and second service with rear brake pad change and general service came to just rs 11000/- its dirt cheap.. and 250r sharing the same set of brake pads, mirrors/ fairing/etc/etc might cost a lot cheaper.. and what to say.. you guys know better than us.. so leave it to you guys.
        MJ
        **I did not get a PULSAR cuz I wanted a BIKE!!**
        **I got a BIKE cuz I wanted a PULSAR!!**

        Pulsar 150 DTSi - 2004
        GT 650R - 2011

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        • Originally posted by men_in_jean View Post
          .. and 250r sharing the same set of brake pads, mirrors/ fairing/etc/etc might cost a lot cheaper.. and what to say.. you guys know better than us.. so leave it to you guys.
          can you guys provide price list of the spares?we probably have some misconceptions.
          servicing a hyundai is costly too,koreans have the same dna it seems.
          Last edited by sayank10; 03-25-2012, 09:37 PM.
          and the question remains why do i race?
          every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

          #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
          #overkill is underrated.
          #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
          #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road

          (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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          • Originally posted by Brat View Post
            I would assume Korean courier service pays well. As you might already be aware, the biking community outside of India is pretty different, this is a place where young ladies use N250R as a beginner/training bike and their lawnmowers are equally powered as our homegrown Pulsars.

            So, No offense taken as this comes from a completely different context, to each his own opinion.

            I dont know if you know this, here's a snapshot of my first service bill,
            Let alone the spares. I'll let you decide whether the cost of oil, oil-filter and chain lube is "real cheap" or "reasonable priced".

            I once had my RVM broken and it costs 7.5k for the replacement, the SVC wont sell sell you only one, have to be bought in pairs.
            The 250 shares many chassis/fiber/misc panel elements with the 650. So this applies for the 250R as well.

            Out of first hand experience, I dont think the spares are dirt cheap or well priced. The only good factor is the availability, so - they get away with it.

            Mate, the point I was trying to make was this, I am not against any brands or stuff as I indicated earlier. Indeed the "lady drivers" comment part which you made, I was thinking to make the exact comment in my previous comment. Yes, I've even seen people using Busa's as general transport bikes. That being said, I used the word "comparatively" because for the same "INVOICE" you mentioned above.

            Imagine, you owning some renowned brand superbike, your bill would have easily jumped to 9 to 10k for the INVOICE you showed me above in your picture. And trust me, I have known people who cry their arse out just by purchasing a second hand superbike, for the "lust" of superbikes and then suffer. Still are!!

            Hyosung on the other hand is "comparitively" cheap compared to other brand out there, mate. Your bill seems reasonable to me, considering the investment you've made for this bike.

            Now as a general rule, thing is most people these days don't care about the "AFTER SERVICE" part when they purchase a higher class bike, nor do they care whether they can afford such services. The bike craze has so screwed our bikers today, that they buy a bike, just so that they can have a bike and then when it comes to the DARK SIDE of maintenance, they really suffer big time, coupled with the irrational pricing of our Indian dealers, the biggest bong is in the customer's wallet.

            Myself owning a 220 cc, second your point that, a lawnmover has 22 hp which I personally read, but, hey' it's India and you gotta be proud of what you have right

            Peace
            VJ
            Last edited by B7ACKTHORN; 03-25-2012, 10:02 PM.
            Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
            The girl said, 'NO!'


            And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


            THE END

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            • Originally posted by men_in_jean View Post
              you guys know better than us.. so leave it to you guys.
              That bill reported by brat cannot be resolved.
              Engine oil is priced above 3600INR - I do not understand, how, since fully synthetic Motul 300V even if 3 cans is used on a 2 cylinder bike it will come to 2550 bucks only.
              1 can of 300V costs 850 bucks and has 1ltr of oil to it.
              That bill looks like getting engine oil for an inline four.

              For the rest, it can be justified,
              Engine oil filter costs Rs.578...........I guess this one would cost less for the 250cc, as it would be of different depth and size for a smaller twin.
              Chain lubricant's must be of branded quality and thats why the charge, not some homemade muck that normal bikes needs at SVCs

              The spare parts definitely rises with the type of engineering we are riding,
              The chain-sprocket set of any normal 150cc costs Rs.700-850 to the max, for the R15 its INR 3000.........so technically refined things do have the high cost to it.

              The bill for servicing a Ninja 650R would be more or less similar to the GT650Rs, it is not fair to judge the service bill of a 650cc by the terms of a 100cc.
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              • Originally posted by men_in_jean View Post
                ^ ya. My first free service.. bill came to around 4800/- so cheap.. and second service with rear brake pad change and general service came to just rs 11000/- its dirt cheap.. and 250r sharing the same set of brake pads, mirrors/ fairing/etc/etc might cost a lot cheaper.. and what to say.. you guys know better than us.. so leave it to you guys.
                Mate, you literally had me there

                Here's my two cents. I mean, when you purchase a bike, the first thing we forget to do is, calculate what the after math expenses would be, which 90% of the people forget. Only after niggling issues and service issues we bear the real brunt.

                That said, don't forget how we, desi's charge for each and every nuts and bolts, I need not explain on that, as you would probably know, coupled with arse burning VAT which is real pain the arse any day.

                Now if you are griping for this. I'll tell you a real thing that happened to one of my buddy's friend in Blore. He totaled his Ninja 250R a year back, and the Ninja 250 say costs around close to 2.81 lakhs a new one that is. Now when he consulted his insurance firm for a damage claim with the help of the company, you have any idea how much his estimate for the entire bike just for the spares is? 4.6 lakhs, excluding VAT.

                And I don't know if you know this, a chain sprocket set of Ninja 250 costs 18k and just a single indicator, not set, just single piece costs 750 odd bucks. Do you think it's okay for a 2.5 lakh bike?

                Now if you do the math, you know, the bike, the manufacturer you got it, all equates to "comparatively cheap" if not the cheapest spares you can get for mid class bike bid against the investment you've made for your bike.

                Cheers!
                VJ
                Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                The girl said, 'NO!'


                And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                THE END

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                • Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
                  can you guys provide price list of the spares?we probably have some misconceptions.
                  servicing a hyundai is costly too,koreans have the same dna it seems.
                  Unlike an ordinary bike, where you can source the parts outside, if you personally buy spares outside, the total amount spent comes to much less compared to for the same spare part if you replace it in a SVC, reason for that being, VAT, service tax, labor.

                  The only way SVC people loot money is, they know their customers can't get the same replacement elsewhere because it's a niche category or at least hype it as so called genuine spares for such niche bikes, Hyosung etc etc. If these bikes, say were to become a non-niche category, which is light years away, where you can go to any reputed spare shop wallah and get all your inventory down to the hand, bargain and get it fixed, that amount would noway come near to the SVC price quote.

                  So in other words, spare parts price depends on their moods I guess, and for the et al mentioned above.

                  Cheers!
                  VJ
                  Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                  The girl said, 'NO!'


                  And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                  THE END

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                  • ^ And FYI, the indicator for a single side costs 1900 rs for the GT(shared by both GT250r and 650r). Dude, I am not griping for any of it. I know what I bought and I am happy with what it is and all it offers. I was just telling the people to do the comparison.

                    Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                    Imagine, you owning some renowned brand
                    So take a renowned brand on the same segment and compare. How about Ninja 650R? Get the spare list and compare.. And then would you say Ninja is not a renowned brand? If you are comparing GT with the R1's R6's stuff then all I can say is you need to mature more on biking. In my view I would not call it cheap. Or we wouldn't know if it is cheap. Because we do not have many bikes in the segment to compare with. Basically no data. So no point discussing that.

                    @Mach:
                    You are right. The prices put by the SVCs are way too high in my opinion. Mainly on Engine Oil. that too everytime.
                    MJ
                    **I did not get a PULSAR cuz I wanted a BIKE!!**
                    **I got a BIKE cuz I wanted a PULSAR!!**

                    Pulsar 150 DTSi - 2004
                    GT 650R - 2011

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                    • Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                      but, hey' it's India and you gotta be proud of what you have right.
                      I know what you meant, which is why it did not make sense to compare the korean market with India. I know of a CBR250R being used to deliver milk in Bangalore.

                      Erm.. We dont want to give the impression - just because we own it, we will defend the brand, coz we dont. This brand was nowhere in the map when some of us got the GT. Any personal views about the product has no relativity with the cost of spares set by the company.

                      The point we are trying to make is that if you have any misconceptions that Hyosung spares are "relatively cheap", you may want to re-evaluate your opinions.

                      N250R's been around for longer, it has better aftermarket availability as well as sourcing OEM's are not as much painstaking. GT is less known. Limited aftermarket, let alone OEM. I know this because i've been trying to source a simple set of EBC brake pads for over a month now without ripping a hole in my pants and it looks like a losing fight.

                      Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
                      your servicing bill looks reasonable to me.
                      Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
                      That bill reported by brat cannot be resolved.
                      Some of these things dont add up. Just wanted to reset the expectation of any potential buyer of the GT250R. Honestly, that bill cannot be resolved. A closer look (such as the one done by MACH50) would tell you why.

                      Originally posted by men_in_jean View Post
                      So take a renowned brand on the same segment and compare. How about Ninja 650R? Get the spare list and compare.. And then would you say Ninja is not a renowned brand?
                      LMAO!
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                      • Originally posted by Brat View Post
                        I would assume Korean courier service pays well. As you might already be aware, the biking community outside of India is pretty different, this is a place where young ladies use N250R as a beginner/training bike and their lawnmowers are equally powered as our homegrown Pulsars.
                        If you are talking about big lawnmovers thats ok. But if about push lawnmovers, then what I found about lawnmovers they have 140-160cc engines and 5-10 HP. so pulsars have power ranging between 13.5 HP to 23.3 HP. And 650cc bikes would be fast in their regards but 20+ HP is also not bad.
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                        • Originally posted by men_in_jean View Post
                          ^ And FYI, the indicator for a single side costs 1900 rs for the GT(shared by both GT250r and 650r). Dude, I am not griping for any of it. I know what I bought and I am happy with what it is and all it offers. I was just telling the people to do the comparison.



                          So take a renowned brand on the same segment and compare. How about Ninja 650R? Get the spare list and compare.. And then would you say Ninja is not a renowned brand? If you are comparing GT with the R1's R6's stuff then all I can say is you need to mature more on biking. In my view I would not call it cheap. Or we wouldn't know if it is cheap. Because we do not have many bikes in the segment to compare with. Basically no data. So no point discussing that.
                          Dude, you are not getting my point, not to hurt you ego. Tell you what, I didn't compare the GT 650 to any likewise machines there. I mentioned clearly "renowned brands" by that I mean, the brand loyalty and the brand-induced charges that go with the machines they make, be it any machine to your point that is, and if you know what I mean. I didn't compare the the GT650R to any other bikes. Please make sure you read it clearly and thoroughly. Thanks.

                          Peace
                          VJ
                          Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                          The girl said, 'NO!'


                          And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                          THE END

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                          • Originally posted by Brat View Post
                            I know what you meant, which is why it did not make sense to compare the korean market with India. I know of a CBR250R being used to deliver milk in Bangalore.

                            Erm.. We dont want to give the impression - just because we own it, we will defend the brand, coz we dont. This brand was nowhere in the map when some of us got the GT. Any personal views about the product has no relativity with the cost of spares set by the company.

                            The point we are trying to make is that if you have any misconceptions that Hyosung spares are "relatively cheap", you may want to re-evaluate your opinions.

                            N250R's been around for longer, it has better aftermarket availability as well as sourcing OEM's are not as much painstaking. GT is less known. Limited aftermarket, let alone OEM. I know this because i've been trying to source a simple set of EBC brake pads for over a month now without ripping a hole in my pants and it looks like a losing fight.
                            Second you on what you said above on the brake pads, Brat. I am sorry to say this but, the comment men_in_jean made about the point "isn't Ninja a premium brand" really I was like LMAO here, jesus! ) I don't understand why me made that comment in the first place; think he was real eager to post his views than reading CLEARLY what I wrote.

                            Brat, maybe I might be wrong regarding the prices, as to my knowledge my buddy who is a Hyosung dealer, I usually have a rapport with him regarding the things that he used to do frequently, so in that case it's highly unlikely I might get a wrong info, but then I might be wrong, I mean who's perfect, anyway. It's easier for me to say, without owning one, but then my two cents was from what I saw, heard and being with one!

                            men_in_jean, kindly don't get me wrong, but please kindly read the comments thoroughly before you comment, cos even a slight temperament can mean a lot of things, that too in a hot thread like this. So that's a simple request to you. You're a matured biker and I hope you will understand what I mean by that, thanks.

                            Now that the problem is solved, why don't we guys have coffee over it.

                            Cheers!!
                            VJ
                            Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                            The girl said, 'NO!'


                            And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                            THE END

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                            • Originally posted by Enthusiastic View Post
                              If you are talking about big lawnmovers thats ok. But if about push lawnmovers, then what I found about lawnmovers they have 140-160cc engines and 5-10 HP. so pulsars have power ranging between 13.5 HP to 23.3 HP. And 650cc bikes would be fast in their regards but 20+ HP is also not bad.
                              What i meant was just a figure of speech. A friend of mine who rides a HD Nightrod calls my GT650R a moped...lol. I was not talking about the push type mowers, rather - the ones that you can actually ride.

                              Just so that we get a perspective of how fast/crazy a lawnmower could be, check this out.
                              Hayabusa lawnmover - YouTube

                              Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                              Second you on what you said above on the brake pads, Brat. I am sorry to say this but, the comment men_in_jean made about the point "isn't Ninja a premium brand" really I was like LMAO here, jesus! ) I don't understand why me made that comment in the first place; think he was real eager to post his views than reading CLEARLY what I wrote.

                              Brat, maybe I might be wrong regarding the prices, as to my knowledge my buddy who is a Hyosung dealer, I usually have a rapport with him regarding the things that he used to do frequently, so in that case it's highly unlikely I might get a wrong info, but then I might be wrong, I mean who's perfect, anyway. It's easier for me to say, without owning one, but then my two cents was from what I saw, heard and being with one!

                              men_in_jean, kindly don't get me wrong, but please kindly read the comments thoroughly before you comment, cos even a slight temperament can mean a lot of things, that too in a hot thread like this. So that's a simple request to you. You're a matured biker and I hope you will understand what I mean by that, thanks.

                              Now that the problem is solved, why don't we guys have coffee over it.

                              Cheers!!
                              VJ
                              First of all, Its Ok to be wrong, isn't that how we learn most things?

                              For the sake of the potential GT250R owners reading this thread, Know that xbhp is taken seriously by many. Certain few who have the good habit of doing production comparison before buying, rely on ownership thread for VFM, After-sales-service review, Spares availability, SVC know-how, Owner satisfaction, Quality, Performance and so much more. They trust what they see on here so we try to make sure whatever info people get is actually true.

                              We were only trying to make sure that the correct expectation is being set for those of the potential owners out there in terms of spares and maintenance costs associated with GT250R in terms of what to expect and nothing more. When we see something that deviates from our Ownership experience of its bigger brother, we try to correct it. But it depends on how those comments are received. We dont want someone to go buy the GT250R and then later realize that a brakepad change and regular service is costing them over 11k. So, we share our experience with the authorised dealer directly. Rather than rely on any other word-of-mouth, 3rd party sources.

                              We both honestly couldn't care less for personal opinions or brand wars.

                              What men_in_jean was trying to say was that there's little difference in spares cost b/w a well established brand (Kawi) and an emerging brand (Hyosung).
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                              • so why don't you guys confront the svc guys about the spare price and servicing cost.
                                and the question remains why do i race?
                                every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

                                #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
                                #overkill is underrated.
                                #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
                                #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road

                                (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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