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**beruoist** · 04-22-2010, 11:10 AM

Originally posted by spiderweb View Post

Tera angrezi toh todu-phodu ho gaya re, eh!

Yeah i am improving at exponential rate

...All thanks to Nagpuria company :P

Three more days and 2 days more if you are in a hurry.

Thanks MG..A little bit detail about that route will be very helpful.

Suppose we do a night stay at shimla (or any nearby place to shimla ).Then for coming three days how do we plan the Itenary.
I mean how many Km's we should cover,Places of attraction :P and the place where we should stay.Need a little bit help on this.

^^Rachit,Kurt,Praful..Please help

**Praful** · 04-22-2010, 11:12 AM

Originally posted by beruoist View Post

One query -> If we go via the Delhi - Shimla - Pin Valley - Keylong route instead of taking Delhi - Manali - Keylong than how many extra days we will be spending or needing.As far as i know the first root meets at the Delhi - Manali - Keylong route 10 Km ( approx ) after the Darcha La.

Please correct me if i am terribly wrong

Thanks
Biru

The Spiti Valley circuit will add another 3-4 days to your trip if you are "fast". Else 5-6 days is what usually is taken into account if you factor in the probability of delays.

One correction, "La" mean pass in the native language of Ladakh. And Darcha is not a La

EDIT: If you have loads of time in hand then do the Spiti circuit. Else as Old Fox advised us and we kept that golden rule in mind, Leave something for next time

You will unnecessarily end up rushing you trip. I'd say just concentrate on Ladakh for now and spend as much time as possible

MG · 04-22-2010, 11:19 AM

Originally posted by beruoist View Post

Thanks MG..A little bit detail about that route will be very helpful.

Suppose we do a night stay at shimla (or any nearby place to shimla ).Then for coming three days how do we plan the Itenary.
I mean how many Km's we should cover,Places of attraction :P and the place where we should stay.Need a little bit help on this.

I will post it in detail later if Kurt doesn't post it. For the moment some rough idea

Day 1: Delhi - Shimla/ Narkanda (Narkanda is 55km from Shimla)
Day 2: Narkanda - Chitkul via Karcham,Wangtu, Sangla
Day 3: Chitkul - Sangla - Peo - Kalpa (Going to Chitkul is optional else save one day stay at Kalpa on Day 2)
Day 4: Kalpa - Tabo - Kaza
Day 5: Around Kaza
Day 6: If you want to explore more including Pin valley
Day 7: Kaza - Batal - Chandartal
Day 8: Chandartal - Batal - Losar - Gramphoo - Keylong

If you are just passing through Spiti circuit then you can do it in 4days by skipping Day 3,5,6

**Aryan** · 04-22-2010, 11:22 AM

@beruoist: MG has already posted the itinerary nicely, above. However, I would seriously suggest you to explore the Spiti Valley, as a separate entity altogether, else rushing through it would kill all the fun and the actual beauty that Spiti holds.

Pin Valley is one of the most beautiful places in the whole of Spiti circuit (apart from MANY other places/ landscapes in the area). However, like I said, you guys would be better off doing it as a separate trip altogether rather than 'merging' it with the Leh ride!

P.S: Pin Valley can be done easily before the guys reach Kaza, actually.

It falls in between Tabo and Kaza, hence, I see no use staying at Kaza and then coming all the way back to Pin Valley, really!

**kurtrules** · 04-22-2010, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by beruoist View Post

Suppose we do a night stay at shimla (or any nearby place to shimla ).Then for coming three days how do we plan the Itenary.
I mean how many Km's we should cover,Places of attraction :P and the place where we should stay.Need a little bit help on this.

^^Rachit,Kurt,Praful..Please help

If you want to just pass through Spiti then you would require two extra days. Else if you want explore it, add a week.

For just passing through:

1) Delhi - Narkanda
2) Narkanda - Rampur - Karchamm - Peo
3) Peo - Kaza
4) Kaza - Keylong

A quicker, albeit doable one would be:

1) Delhi - Shimla - Rampur
2) Rampur - Karcham - Powari - Nako - Tabo - Kaza
3) Kaza - Gramphoo - Keylong

Normally you would be doing:

1) Delhi - Manali and Manali - Keylong/Jispa/Darcha

Originally posted by MG_Biker1806 View Post

I will post it in detail later if Kurt doesn't post it. For the moment some rough idea

Day 1: Delhi - Shimla/ Narkanda (Narkanda is 65km from Shimla)
Day 2: Narkanda - Chitkul via Karcham,Wangtu, Sangla
Day 3: Chitkul - Sangla - Peo - Kalpa (Going to Chitkul is optional else save one day stay at Kalpa on Day 2)
Day 4: Kalpa - Tabo - Kaza
Day 5: Around Kaza
Day 6: If you want to explore more including Pin valley
Day 7: Kaza - Batal - Chandartal
Day 8: Chandartal - Batal - Losar - Gramphoo - Keylong

If you are just passing through Spiti circuit then you can do it in 4days by skipping Day 3,5,6

This one if you want to explore kinnaur and spiti.

(Ps: Small correction in red)

Edit: I would advise leaving Spiti for next time and not combining it with Ladakh. Doing both in one trip you'll kill the charm

**inder.cool** · 04-22-2010, 12:31 PM

@Vaibhav: Are there any places where we can stay back for a day just for visting near by places..like we are staying in Leh one day..then srinagar one day..

**kurtrules** · 04-22-2010, 12:40 PM

Extend you stay in Leh. Keep one day specifically for nearby monastaries and palaces. Another for just resting and tasting local delicacies.

**beruoist** · 04-22-2010, 06:00 PM

Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post

The Spiti Valley circuit will add another 3-4 days to your trip if you are "fast". Else 5-6 days is what usually is taken into account if you factor in the probability of delays.

One correction, "La" mean pass in the native language of Ladakh. And Darcha is not a La

EDIT: If you have loads of time in hand then do the Spiti circuit. Else as Old Fox advised us and we kept that golden rule in mind, Leave something for next time

You will unnecessarily end up rushing you trip. I'd say just concentrate on Ladakh for now and spend as much time as possible

Ok,Max 6 days.Sounds great.How about doing the Keylong - Leh - Kargil - Amritsar strech in 10 days

.Is it easily doable or practically possible or am i rushing things.

Originally posted by MG_Biker1806 View Post

I will post it in detail later if Kurt doesn't post it. For the moment some rough idea

Day 1: Delhi - Shimla/ Narkanda (Narkanda is 55km from Shimla)
Day 2: Narkanda - Chitkul via Karcham,Wangtu, Sangla
Day 3: Chitkul - Sangla - Peo - Kalpa (Going to Chitkul is optional else save one day stay at Kalpa on Day 2)
Day 4: Kalpa - Tabo - Kaza
Day 5: Around Kaza
Day 6: If you want to explore more including Pin valley
Day 7: Kaza - Batal - Chandartal
Day 8: Chandartal - Batal - Losar - Gramphoo - Keylong

If you are just passing through Spiti circuit then you can do it in 4days by skipping Day 3,5,6

Thanks MG,I guess i will squeeze it to 6 days.

Originally posted by Aryan View Post

@beruoist: MG has already posted the itinerary nicely, above. However, I would seriously suggest you to explore the Spiti Valley, as a separate entity altogether, else rushing through it would kill all the fun and the actual beauty that Spiti holds.

Pin Valley is one of the most beautiful places in the whole of Spiti circuit (apart from MANY other places/ landscapes in the area). However, like I said, you guys would be better off doing it as a separate trip altogether rather than 'merging' it with the Leh ride!

P.S: Pin Valley can be done easily before the guys reach Kaza, actually.

It falls in between Tabo and Kaza, hence, I see no use staying at Kaza and then coming all the way back to Pin Valley, really!

Thanks for the Input Aryan.

Originally posted by kurtrules View Post

If you want to just pass through Spiti then you would require two extra days. Else if you want explore it, add a week.

For just passing through:

1) Delhi - Narkanda
2) Narkanda - Rampur - Karchamm - Peo
3) Peo - Kaza
4) Kaza - Keylong

A quicker, albeit doable one would be:

1) Delhi - Shimla - Rampur
2) Rampur - Karcham - Powari - Nako - Tabo - Kaza
3) Kaza - Gramphoo - Keylong

Normally you would be doing:

1) Delhi - Manali and Manali - Keylong/Jispa/Darcha

This one if you want to explore kinnaur and spiti.

(Ps: Small correction in red)

Edit: I would advise leaving Spiti for next time and not combining it with Ladakh. Doing both in one trip you'll kill the charm

Thanks for the input Kurt.Point noted

**satyenpoojary** · 04-22-2010, 07:50 PM

Beeru, I thought we had frozen on the Planning bit..... ab bakwaas mat kar :P

Agle saal ka plan banaane keliye abhi waqt hain!

I have this intuition that the AMS is going to take its toll on me! I dontknow, I never had a problem like this before, but I had asthma as a kid :P
Any Advice... especially from the doctor types here

**nav75** · 04-22-2010, 08:16 PM

Originally posted by kurtrules View Post

Apart from what Praful has said, I would like to add one more thing. Donot stay in Jispa Ibex. Apart from being expensive, the people there are not friendly. They prefer foreigners to Indians. There has been a discussion on this over other forums.

+1.

Why not stay instead at Keylong, its just some 20odd km's before and at Hotel Chandrabagha, in the same cost as Ibex you get a much much much better service.

**Praful** · 04-22-2010, 10:11 PM

Originally posted by beruoist View Post

Ok,Max 6 days.Sounds great.How about doing the Keylong - Leh - Kargil - Amritsar strech in 10 days

.Is it easily doable or practically possible or am i rushing things.

What all do you intend on seeing in between Keylong and Leh and beyond would matter actually. But if you plan riding like a truck driver then yes..

Day 1 : Keylong - Leh (Doable, but this is a He-Man ride... and you miss out on all the beautiful stuff along this route)
Day 2 : Leh - Kargil (Dont recommend staying in Kargil!)
Day 3 : Kargil - Srinagar
Day 4 : Srinagar - Amritsar (Again a tough ride and not recommended!)

Yes sir you are rushing through! :|

Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post

I have this intuition that the AMS is going to take its toll on me! I dontknow, I never had a problem like this before, but I had asthma as a kid :P
Any Advice... especially from the doctor types here

Intuitions don't have a link to AMS.

AMS can hit anyone and there are no rules as such which can be laid down that say what can cause AMS.

But people who have lived close to MSL all their lives have only had exposure to oxygen rich air have a slightly higher chance of AMS.

People with higher body mass need more oxygen due to their higher body weight and hence they too are at a higher risk.

That being said, there is no hard and fast rule, different people's bodies react differently to AMS....

**beruoist** · 04-22-2010, 10:20 PM

Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post

What all do you intend on seeing in between Keylong and Leh and beyond would matter actually. But if you plan riding like a truck driver then yes..

Day 1 : Keylong - Leh (Doable, but this is a He-Man ride... and you miss out on all the beautiful stuff along this route)
Day 2 : Leh - Kargil (Dont recommend staying in Kargil!)
Day 3 : Kargil - Srinagar
Day 4 : Srinagar - Amritsar (Again a tough ride and not recommended!)

Yes sir you are rushing through! :|

Intuitions don't have a link to AMS.

AMS can hit anyone and there are no rules as such which can be laid down that say what can cause AMS.

But people who have lived close to MSL all their lives have only had exposure to oxygen rich air have a slightly higher chance of AMS.

People with higher body mass need more oxygen due to their higher body weight and hence they too are at a higher risk.

That being said, there is no hard and fast rule, different people's bodies react differently to AMS....

ROFL..Truck driver.

Praful..I mean to say 6 days totally for the Spiti circuit and 10 Seperate days for the Keylong -Leh - Kargil - Amritsar circuit

Solah din in total

Beeru, I thought we had frozen on the Planning bit..... ab bakwaas mat kar :P

Agle saal ka plan banaane keliye abhi waqt hain!

I have this intuition that the AMS is going to take its toll on me! I dontknow, I never had a problem like this before, but I had asthma as a kid :P
Any Advice... especially from the doctor types here

Satyen..let me collect some gyaan.

..

**spiderweb** · 04-22-2010, 10:29 PM

Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post

But people who have lived close to MSL all their lives have only had exposure to oxygen rich air have a slightly higher chance of AMS.

I like this, i live in Mumbai City & hardly got any direct contact with fresh air or oxygen, except on weekends

**Praful** · 04-22-2010, 10:31 PM

Originally posted by spiderweb View Post

I like this, i live in Mumbai City & hardly got any direct contact with fresh air or oxygen, except on weekends

I don't think you're gonna get hit by AMS...you are spider thin buddy!

You're body's oxygen requirement is not that high.

But if you're a sutta baaz then can't say for sure!

**spiderweb** · 04-22-2010, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post

I don't think you're gonna get hit by AMS...you are spider thin buddy!

You're body's oxygen requirement is not that high.

But if you're a sutta baaz then can't say for sure!

I hate smoking

but I love beer, I guess that wont be a problem but

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