Engine Oils

[prajwalkashyap]

OWS 600 Series Fully Synth 15W50 - 630 bucks per liter

Motul 300V Fully Synth - ~900 bucks a liter

Motul 5100 Semi Synth 15W50 - 550 bucks a liter.

So if I can get the same level of performance from OWS compared to Motul and save around 250 bucks a liter, why not OWS? And the Ninja needs 1.6 liters of oil (with oil filter change).

Makes economical sense for me to go for OWS but need to know if its as good as Motul 300V or better.

According to the article below, Motul 300v is 100% Ester-based and thus very expensive. It is due to the production cost of esters that some companies only fortify their oils with esters to make the oil more affordable.

An excerpt from the article:

"Esters are the most expensive to produce, and oils manufactured with them usually cost much more. Due to this higher cost, many companies only fortify their oils with esters. Some examples are Bel-Ray EXS, Torco MPZ Synthetic and Maxum 4 Extra. Motul 300V, however, uses 100 percent ester as its base oil, and is one of the more expensive oils."

Oils Well That Ends Well, Part 1 - Sport Rider Magazine

I would suspect that OWS oil would be a fortified ester oil and thus cheaper. This also explains why Motul is popularly considered as the best and in line with the prices in the market.

I would say, don't compromise on Rs.270, just buy it, even stock more of it if available.

Prajwal

[Mecho]

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ps - Sachin's oil comes in pints ? [/QUOTE]

?? didnt understand that

[FATAL1TY - X]

there has been a name change of Mobil 1 MX4T. it is now called Mobil 1 Racing 4T and costs 800-850. i just found it out today in our town's retail shop. i'm getting that as soon as the odo ticks over 10k kms(9650 currently).

[sandeepcf]

Buy Synthetic Oil Online

hi,
I am currently using Castrol Power 1 Racing 4T and it is due for draining. No synthetic oil is available in my place except Motul 300v 15w50, but I need 10w40 grade oil.
Please tell me if I can purchase synthetic oils "online".
Came across speedworks.in website somewhere in the forum and they are selling OWS 800 Syntholite. Has anybody tried that oil? Is it worth buying at Rs.720?

[madhav krishna]

@^^^ yes it will be cheaper if you don't put the additive also with oil which you specified earlier .anyway do post your experience with this oil as i havent heard /seen this brand up here in north india .also the motul semi synth is 450 rs mrp till last month iirc.

Neither did i in south india

[FATAL1TY - X]

hi,
I am currently using Castrol Power 1 Racing 4T and it is due for draining. No synthetic oil is available in my place except Motul 300v 15w50, but I need 10w40 grade oil.
Please tell me if I can purchase synthetic oils "online".
Came across speedworks.in website somewhere in the forum and they are selling OWS 800 Syntholite. Has anybody tried that oil? Is it worth buying at Rs.720?

300v comes in 10w 40 viscosity. it is a bit more rarer than 300v 15w 50 and is hard to find. thre is shell advance ultra 10w 40(i wouldnt reccomend it), there is mobil 1 racing 4t 10w 40 and i guess petronas sprinta 5000 is available in 10w 40 viscosity. all these are full synthetics.

i 've never heard of the OWS before except from the ninja owner in a few posts above yours.

[sandeepcf]

300v comes in 10w 40 viscosity. it is a bit more rarer than 300v 15w 50 and is hard to find. thre is shell advance ultra 10w 40(i wouldnt reccomend it), there is mobil 1 racing 4t 10w 40 and i guess petronas sprinta 5000 is available in 10w 40 viscosity. all these are full synthetics.

i 've never heard of the OWS before except from the ninja owner in a few posts above yours.

The real problem is that no one sells fully synths at my place(not a big town). when I ask them for synthetic oil they say castrol activ is synthetic, some offers mobil 1 car oil, one says 300v 10w40 is not released yet in Andhra Pradesh..like that. since I am currently using castrolp1racing I don't want to revert back to mineral, also the guy who sold castrol racing no more sells it says no one wants to spend 750 on engine oil, also castrol bike zone was shutdown a year ago.
so I am thinking of online purchase. Any websites that sell engine oil in India? I lost my bookmarks, there is a website which sells motorcycle parts and I can't find it now.
Shell advance ultra is available but I am really dissatisfied by shell mineral that I drained it in just a week, so I am not going to buy shell again.

[KARIZMATIC]

i own a karizma

the recommended drain period as advised by Hero Honda is 6000 km.

but i do change at every 2000 km.

when i told this to friend he told me that it is waste of money.

Why such a big company would fool its customers and it even is not making any profit by extending the drain prd of 6000km.



Please advice which is right to do?

[MSN1]

i own a karizma

the recommended drain period as advised by Hero Honda is 6000 km.

but i do change at every 2000 km.

when i told this to friend he told me that it is waste of money.

Why such a big company would fool its customers and it even is not making any profit by extending the drain prd of 6000km.



Please advice which is right to do?

What ever the drain period mentioned in the manual is related to idle running condition.

what you are doing now is correct

if you find the bike response is sluggish or low then inspect the oil
If oil is good after 2000 kms is good then continue for another 1000 kms (thats max )

always check the oil level at least 10 days once
and do review the viscosity of the oil at least 500 kms

our dusty hectic city traffic riding condition is 100 times bad than the company said idle running condition.

[dafc]

and do review the viscosity of the oil at least 500 kms

I know how to check the oil level but How do you check the viscosity of the oil?

[GHoSt220]

bajaj dtsi 10000 oil is mineral or semi synthetic?
What is the drain interval of motul 5100 15w50 ss?

Should it harm the engine if I pour only a one litre can of engine oil in my 220?

[madhav krishna]

@mods,
Why is it that this thread always keeps on changing its places from help me section to universal section???

[lijok]

@mods,
Why is it that this thread always keeps on changing its places from help me section to universal section???

Guess that happens when they merge a thread opened from that sections into this one?

.....
Should it harm the engine if I pour only a one litre can of engine oil in my 220?

Less engine oil mean less lubrication. Which means increased wear and tear. Are you willing to risk that? Please use the specified amount of oil. Cheers

[GHoSt220]

@lijok
Thanks sir for the advice but price is a big factor for costly engine oils.
I am still pursuing my studies so i am a bekaar till now and if i ask my father to give me 850+rupees to change the engine oil all hell will break loose.
The recommended amount is 1150ml. will 150ml will create a big factor?

[madhav krishna]

@lijok
Thanks sir for the advice but price is a big factor for costly engine oils.
I am still pursuing my studies so i am a bekaar till now and if i ask my father to give me 850+rupees to change the engine oil all hell will break loose.

Well the premium synthetic oils (costly oils as per our understanding) seem to be costly but they are worth on the long run. They have their share of advantages like better FE, longer drain intervals & all those small advantages.

The motul is the costliest of the lot. So in that case i would recommend the valvoline. Its known to suit the pulsar breed & is a good oil at its price point.

The recommended amount is 1150ml. will 150ml will create a big factor?

Yes it obviously will in the long run. If you use lesser quantity then the oil amount gets dried up faster than usual. Moreover the carbon etc get deposited in the oil & since it is less amount of oil it will get thickened with time in simple words decreased drain interval. In just one point i would say that you would be ruining your bike of 80K+ value for just a matter of few 100s