Helmets

[alphamike_1612]

Re: Helmets

This question just hit me.
Users of Sena/vnet and the like, which has the battery on the outside of the helmet.
In case of a crash, how safe would the battery be? All of these use Lithium technology batteries and they are prone for fires if mishandled.
Have you ever had a crash(god forbid) with something that has a battery on the outside of the helmet?
What happened then?
I'm building a DIY light setup for the helmet and using a li-ion battery and that's why this question.

Now why I don't include action cameras here is, because they have these shockproof cases.



Also, I'm trying to select a new helmet.
I read a lot on the SMK twister and almost decided on it, but now am confused between 4 models:
SMK twister
SMK force/force steel
MT thunder 3
MT blade 2

I can stretch my budget to 8k.

My requirements are:
Speaker pockets
Internal sun visor
Comfortable for touring (say 3-4 hours without removing the helmet)
Mounting an action cam
Either the d ring or the ratchet is okay.
Also ECE certified is enough I feel. DoT/SHARP is an added bonus.
The pinlock offered by SMK is VFM. But I dont mind spending another 1300-1500 for a pinlock insert to give it up for protection of my head.
Graphics don't matter either.
Please help me choose.
Been breaking my head over this last few hours.
I use an LS2 FF320. (As mentioned earlier)
So would the SMK be a downgrade?

[vatsa]

Re: Helmets

Guys i am looking for an half face/open face helmet which has provision for speaker pocket. Could you pls suggest ? I tried in amazon and also online but couldn’t find any with the provision to fix my intercom. I am looking to primarily use it in city and Chennai gets really hot during the day. For the summers i ll really need those half face helmets and i plan to switch my intercoms whenever i need to.
Thanks
Vatsa

[Thamps]

Re: Helmets

glad it was useful.

Thank you for the video. I stand corrected.

[alphamike_1612]

Re: Helmets

Thank you for the video. I stand corrected.

No.a fall from the motorcycle won't compress the EPS liner unless there is a load inside the helmet.if the EPS liner is black,you can easily remove the foam liners and inspect for any dent or cracks as the EPS material underneath is white and it would provide a stark contrast if cracked or compressed.in case of unpainted EPS liners,you can visually inspect the same and from my limited knowledge,paint chipping in shell doesn't matter much if the EPS liners are intact.but if the shell has cracked,or the EPS liner is detached or loose,it is better to replace the helmet.this is the reason why it is advised to never hang ones helmet in mirrors because doing so regularly can compress the EPS liners at some point.you can check out the fortnine video below to see the reason it is asked to change the helmet after 5 years.
https://youtu.be/_nbQsnUvlo4

[Thamps]

Re: Helmets

No.a fall from the motorcycle won't compress the EPS liner unless there is a load inside the helmet.if the EPS liner is black,you can easily remove the foam liners and inspect for any dent or cracks as the EPS material underneath is white and it would provide a stark contrast if cracked or compressed.in case of unpainted EPS liners,you can visually inspect the same and from my limited knowledge,paint chipping in shell doesn't matter much if the EPS liners are intact.but if the shell has cracked,or the EPS liner is detached or loose,it is better to replace the helmet.this is the reason why it is advised to never hang ones helmet in mirrors because doing so regularly can compress the EPS liners at some point.you can check out the fortnine video below to see the reason it is asked to change the helmet after 5 years.

https://youtu.be/_nbQsnUvlo4

Quick question.
I don't know if this has already been asked in the forum, but how does one know when to replace a helmet that has not been in a crash? I don't believe in the 3-5 year theory and that the polystyrene disintegrates from regular use. Suppose the helmet falls off from the motorcycle, does that mean I replace it?
I use an LS2 Stream Evo.

[alphamike_1612]

Re: Helmets

Thank you[emoji3589]

Take a careful look at the are where the impact has happened . Look for cracks in the painted surface and see weather the cracks are on the paint or have reached the actual shell use ur cellphone light. If the paint is cracked and u can not see the anymore impact under it the try peeling off a little bit of pain or sticker to have a closer look. Remove the padding inside and check the inner padding or the inner impact absorbing white layer. Check the surrounding area of the impact point and the exact opposite side.
Usually nothing happens in a minor handle bar to ground falls as these are made to absorb heavy impacts.

[Ijs]

Re: Helmets

How do you inspect the helmet?

Take a careful look at the are where the impact has happened . Look for cracks in the painted surface and see weather the cracks are on the paint or have reached the actual shell use ur cellphone light. If the paint is cracked and u can not see the anymore impact under it the try peeling off a little bit of pain or sticker to have a closer look. Remove the padding inside and check the inner padding or the inner impact absorbing white layer. Check the surrounding area of the impact point and the exact opposite side.
Usually nothing happens in a minor handle bar to ground falls as these are made to absorb heavy impacts.

[alphamike_1612]

Re: Helmets

How do you inspect the helmet?

Minor fall doesn't affect much can call it myth. If the impact is good and strong then u need shell inspection and replacement if needed. I changed last helmet after 4 years.

[Ijs]

Re: Helmets

Quick question.
I don't know if this has already been asked in the forum, but how does one know when to replace a helmet that has not been in a crash? I don't believe in the 3-5 year theory and that the polystyrene disintegrates from regular use. Suppose the helmet falls off from the motorcycle, does that mean I replace it?
I use an LS2 Stream Evo.

Minor fall doesn't affect much can call it myth. If the impact is good and strong then u need shell inspection and replacement if needed. I changed last helmet after 4 years.

[alphamike_1612]

Re: Helmets

Quick question.
I don't know if this has already been asked in the forum, but how does one know when to replace a helmet that has not been in a crash? I don't believe in the 3-5 year theory and that the polystyrene disintegrates from regular use. Suppose the helmet falls off from the motorcycle, does that mean I replace it?
I use an LS2 Stream Evo.

[alphamike_1612]

Re: Helmets

I use earphones with music set to the lowest possible volume. I find that the wind noise is still on the higher side, but that maybe just me. The fit and smugness is an issue as I said.
I'm looking to move to the smk twister since it has speaker pockets and a double visor(I wear glasses so I can't wear sunglasses). I will also check out mt in that range.
Thank you[emoji16]

There is no such thing as a silent helmet , only some are more noisy some are less. Even high end helmets have wind noise. You need to use earplugs try the 3m foam plugs cheap and effective. And make sure the fit is perfect. I use a smk and there is noise from left side at high speed ,Mt is less noisy than smk and ls2 i have tried it.
Important this is what you have mentioned fittings or the smugness.

[Ijs]

Re: Helmets

HI,
Been using an LS2 helmet since 2017. Looking to change in a year or so.(or even earlier if I can save up)
Looking for a full face helmet which has an internal sun visor that can be opened from the outside, has speaker pockets and is safe.(DOT/ECE certified).
I usually ride at speeds of 90 KMPH so wind noise is also a factor.
Removable inner lining is a definite in this range(Isn't it?)
Budget - 4000-7000 INR (I'm a college student and I save up for my gear, so the limited budget)

The current model of LS2 I'm using is FF320 which is a really good model but I have size fit issues with it and wind noise is horrible even with the chin curtain.
Doesn't always pain when I use it but at certain times, after riding for an hour or so, there is a lot of pressure on the side of my head near the ear because it presses on the frame of my glasses, at times even the tip of the ear pains. This prohibits using the bluetooth module I have now, since it only increases the pressure on the side of my head.
Got it from Rainbow in Chennai for 5.2K. The sales guy told me the pressure would be like that and would eventually subside(Never did). Hopefully, it isn't a fake LS2 (Never knew they existed until I became active on this forum).

Suggestions please guys,

Thank you,
Akaash

There is no such thing as a silent helmet , only some are more noisy some are less. Even high end helmets have wind noise. You need to use earplugs try the 3m foam plugs cheap and effective. And make sure the fit is perfect. I use a smk and there is noise from left side at high speed ,Mt is less noisy than smk and ls2 i have tried it.
Important this is what you have mentioned fittings or the smugness.

[alphamike_1612]

Re: Helmets

HI,
Been using an LS2 helmet since 2017. Looking to change in a year or so.(or even earlier if I can save up)
Looking for a full face helmet which has an internal sun visor that can be opened from the outside, has speaker pockets and is safe.(DOT/ECE certified).
I usually ride at speeds of 90 KMPH so wind noise is also a factor.
Removable inner lining is a definite in this range(Isn't it?)
Budget - 4000-7000 INR (I'm a college student and I save up for my gear, so the limited budget)

The current model of LS2 I'm using is FF320 which is a really good model but I have size fit issues with it and wind noise is horrible even with the chin curtain.
Doesn't always pain when I use it but at certain times, after riding for an hour or so, there is a lot of pressure on the side of my head near the ear because it presses on the frame of my glasses, at times even the tip of the ear pains. This prohibits using the bluetooth module I have now, since it only increases the pressure on the side of my head.
Got it from Rainbow in Chennai for 5.2K. The sales guy told me the pressure would be like that and would eventually subside(Never did). Hopefully, it isn't a fake LS2 (Never knew they existed until I became active on this forum).

Suggestions please guys,

Thank you,
Akaash

[B7ACKTHORN]

Re: Helmets

Both THH and LS2 have been lazy in India compared to other helmet brands. That I agree. But anything specifically wrong with the quality of their lids - especially in the price range they sell? I recently found out my THH TS-41 is a Snell 2010 certified helmet. I'm going to upgrade from it anyway soon (it's old now at almost 5 years old). But not all their shells are such IMO - specifically talking about the TS-41.

THH from my personal experience, don't feel they're built to last, on an apples to apples basis. They have a lot to improve in the padding quality, overall fit and finish leaves a lot to be desired, especially the visor mechanism.

LS2, apart from having great shell designs, are bulky and knockoffs easily available, it's hard to know which is genuine from a fake, which again is a needless risk unless actually seeing it in person. I definitely don't trust e-commerce sites when it comes to LS2.

But that's just my view on how I see things.

Hope it helps!

Cheers!
VJ

[eternoMind]

Re: Helmets

SMK HELMETS are the best bet after MT. SMK are absolute value for money than when compared to MT. Both MT and SMK are dual certified. Where SMK gets the upper edge is the weight and the PINLOCK included for free. MT is heavier when compared to SMK.

What is a pain with both MT and SMK are the wind noise, MT is a train whistle post 75+ and so is SMK. Secondly, size runs a little bigger on SMK even though the sizing guide looks same for all their range, some are shockingly tight and loose for the same size, due to shell design, so it's recommended to try SMK in person for the right fit.

AXOR, the new kid on the block too have similar features as the above ones, but they are heavier. With good graphics, AXOR seems to have doing good. But the brands to stay away are THH and LS2.

But, I for one would recommend SMK for good build, PINLOCK, lightweight and VFM proposition.

Cheers!
VJ

Both THH and LS2 have been lazy in India compared to other helmet brands. That I agree. But anything specifically wrong with the quality of their lids - especially in the price range they sell? I recently found out my THH TS-41 is a Snell 2010 certified helmet. I'm going to upgrade from it anyway soon (it's old now at almost 5 years old). But not all their shells are such IMO - specifically talking about the TS-41.