Helmets

[Sunnyside_up!]

so basically its a warranty thing right...? Does kbc have warranty? I am more concerned about the price....coz i still cant believe that kbc costs 4.8k if it really is genuine... Actually i am in love with the graphics and the helmet... And what are the things to check to verify if it is a genuine kbc...?

Buddy,

You're missing the point. If the helmet comes from an authorised reseller with warranty it must be genuine, right? so check these things and reassure yourself!

[B7ACKTHORN]

Actually the acceptable weight range in certified helmets is between 1200 gms to about 1800 gms, so 1500 gms is considered the median. Many modular helmets weigh more than this too. I am not aware of any certified helmet breaching the 1000 gms lower limit.

This link is a good reference - Motorcycle Helmet Weights - webBikeWorld

You're absolutely right. And by grams, I meant, those local Vega helmets, sir, branded ones aside. I got the Vega Formula HP, it weighed 800 to 900 grams something, spent about 750 bucks on it, white colored one. That being said, my AIROH GP 500 weighs close to 1100 grams, fully loaded

so basically its a warranty thing right...? Does kbc have warranty? I am more concerned about the price....coz i still cant believe that kbc costs 4.8k if it really is genuine... Actually i am in love with the graphics and the helmet... And what are the things to check to verify if it is a genuine kbc...?

Buddy,

You're missing the point. If the helmet comes from an authorised reseller with warranty it must be genuine, right? so check these things and reassure yourself!

Sunny summed it up well. If you get it from an authorized reseller, why keep pondering about the genuinity. For all your queries they are just one phone call or an email away

Cheers!
VJ

[krish2778]

Guys, my LS2 phobia Tinted visor has become almost unuseable, many scratches and tinted part has peeled off, some due to small stones hitting visor from the vehicles(trucks buses) and stuff like that, so now its tough to ride in sunny conditions with the visor down.

I'm so searching for a substitute clear visor, so it can aid me even for night riding. I wanted to know whats the cost of the LS2 clear visor(non air pump version) .Would be great is someone help me out with that.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

[Enthusiastic]

Hi Praj, in Marathalli, I asked at one shop, he is selling LS2 @ 3000/- so you got a good deal. I too think VAT (14.5%) is not included. Personally if your helmet looks good and new I think its good to go without bill since even if you take the bill they could say that you met with some accident and its a harassment replacing it. Would you please post the pic of the glove you bought and some review on it like how comfy is it, behavior in rains/sunny climate, washable, sweat smell etc.

guys i bought ls2 phobia yesterday from balaji helmets jc road for rs2675/-
even my brother bought the same ff351 but different graphics
the posts in this thread helped me a lot
thanks guys for providing me info about the store address and the lid
i loved the ls2 when i first wore it
i came to know how important a good helmet was only after reading posts here in this thread previous i had a different thought that why should anyone spend so much money on a helmet like more than thousand bucks.
he told the same thing posted by others that cross,ls2,sparx,sol are manufactured in the same place ie in chaina
i argued that vega is manufacturing ls2 in different name as many guys said here but he said no anyways i stopped arguing and balaji helmets guys doesnt know about xbhp.
i also bought a sweet pair of gloves for 700rs from cross,
i love the gloves ill post he pics of the gloves in the evening

they didnt give me a bill
is it important to have bill
i should have taken it is it
thanks b7ackthorn for quick response and padfootmoon[ATTACH=CONFIG]85790[/ATTACH]

[krish2778]

Don't think that's a good advice there mate. Keeping the bill is a marked evidence stating that you have purchased from a particular shop or person, which can be used to get a replacement if there's some problems associated with the product, it's your right to get a replacement, shop keeps always do some mumbo jumbo things to avoid giving a replacement.

All defect may not show itself when new and shiny, some surface only after using a bit because of the cheap quality materials used(if any) and that's when you'll need to get a replacement. Especially when you spend big bucks for a life saving object.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

Hi Praj, in Marathalli, I asked at one shop, he is selling LS2 @ 3000/- so you got a good deal. I too think VAT (14.5%) is not included. Personally if your helmet looks good and new I think its good to go without bill since even if you take the bill they could say that you met with some accident and its a harassment replacing it. Would you please post the pic of the glove you bought and some review on it like how comfy is it, behavior in rains/sunny climate, washable, sweat smell etc.

[Rahulbarik]

Buddy, You're missing the point. If the helmet comes from an authorised reseller with warranty it must be genuine, right? so check these things and reassure yourself!

okay okay but how to ensure that he is an authorised reseller? This is the first time i am seeing a kbc over there.... Is there any way to find out? Any ways to mail the company and ask?

[Rahulbarik]

You're absolutely right. And by grams, I meant, those local Vega helmets, sir, branded ones aside. I got the Vega Formula HP, it weighed 800 to 900 grams something, spent about 750 bucks on it, white colored one. That being said, my AIROH GP 500 weighs close to 1100 grams, fully loaded Sunny summed it up well. If you get it from an authorized reseller, why keep pondering about the genuinity. For all your queries they are just one phone call or an email away Cheers! VJ

one phone call or email away? Could you plz provide me the contacts? i would love to verify if he really is an authorised reseller

[krish2778]

I think it was said that PRS are the only authorized dealers for KBC, so i guess getting from them is the only way to be assured of authenticity.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

okay okay but how to ensure that he is an authorised reseller? This is the first time i am seeing a kbc over there.... Is there any way to find out? Any ways to mail the company and ask?

[Kunwar.g]

Helmets

Guys, my LS2 phobia Tinted visor has become almost unuseable, many scratches and tinted part has peeled off, some due to small stones hitting visor from the vehicles(trucks buses) and stuff like that, so now its tough to ride in sunny conditions with the visor down.

I'm so searching for a substitute clear visor, so it can aid me even for night riding. I wanted to know whats the cost of the LS2 clear visor(non air pump version) .Would be great is someone help me out with that.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

Last I checked with Chopra at Kaolbagh, he said Rs 450.00 for clear visor of LS2. But he is still waiting for the shipment.


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[binga]

Last I checked with Chopra at Kaolbagh, he said Rs 450.00 for clear visor of LS2. But he is still waiting for the shipment.


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That guy once said:- What is the need of clear visor? I have sold all the LS2 without clear visor. I said thanks and left the shop decided not to buy LS2.
I can't understand:- One is willing to pay Rs3000, but not vat of 12.5% . Ironical indeed. Save and buy with bill.

[hunterjack]

Need a bit of help from fellow bikers. I just booked duke(midnite black color) 4 days back now i'm in search of a lid.
Basically i wear specs so i find it very inconvenient to own a full face helmet. I'm in search of a modular helmet of good quality and make. Tried Vega boolean but was not that convinced.
Please recommend something. My budget would be in and around 4k. Can stretch a bit if I like something. I stay in mumbai so let me know which shops are better in providing good helmets.

[B7ACKTHORN]

Need a bit of help from fellow bikers. I just booked duke(midnite black color) 4 days back now i'm in search of a lid.
Basically i wear specs so i find it very inconvenient to own a full face helmet. I'm in search of a modular helmet of good quality and make. Tried Vega boolean but was not that convinced.
Please recommend something. My budget would be in and around 4k. Can stretch a bit if I like something. I stay in mumbai so let me know which shops are better in providing good helmets.

Why don't you try Studds Ninja or the Ninja Downtown Full Face plus flip up, two in one. Full face for that rainy day, plus flip up as per your convenience. Costs some 1800 bucks I guess.

one phone call or email away? Could you plz provide me the contacts? i would love to verify if he really is an authorised reseller

Performance Racing.
Shop No. 7 - 8, 143 / 147,
Adam Mahal, Tardeo,
Mumbai - 400 034.
Ph. 91 22 65879696 / 91 22 23526038 / 91 22 23549696.


E Mail : [email protected].
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THERE YOU GO!

Cheers!
VJ

[krish2778]

Its the same cost for me here in Cochin from where i got my helmet, but he too doesn't have the visor in stock. Other shops around the area seems to be selling it at 600/-
Just wanted to conform on the price.

Thanks mate

Last I checked with Chopra at Kaolbagh, he said Rs 450.00 for clear visor of LS2. But he is still waiting for the shipment.


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Bro, Modular helmets are not exactly safe, sure it's great when you go eventless(read crash) through out the use. Like me, i had a Studds Ninja convertible helmet, used it for 2 years without any problem, din't have any falls or anything, but as time went the flipping mechanism itself started making the helmet feel flimsy, so i would suggest to get a full face helmet itself and you seem to have a pretty generous budget for a helmet, so why spend that much on a helmet which compromises on safety, when you can get superb one's which provide exceptional safety instead ?

Just saying totally your choice.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

Need a bit of help from fellow bikers. I just booked duke(midnite black color) 4 days back now i'm in search of a lid.
Basically i wear specs so i find it very inconvenient to own a full face helmet. I'm in search of a modular helmet of good quality and make. Tried Vega boolean but was not that convinced.
Please recommend something. My budget would be in and around 4k. Can stretch a bit if I like something. I stay in mumbai so let me know which shops are better in providing good helmets.

[Sunnyside_up!]

Don't think that's a good advice there mate. Keeping the bill is a marked evidence stating that you have purchased from a particular shop or person, which can be used to get a replacement if there's some problems associated with the product, it's your right to get a replacement, shop keeps always do some mumbo jumbo things to avoid giving a replacement.

All defect may not show itself when new and shiny, some surface only after using a bit because of the cheap quality materials used(if any) and that's when you'll need to get a replacement. Especially when you spend big bucks for a life saving object.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

Absolutely right! Also, especially in the case of imported helmets, if they have been imported directly from the parent company abroad by the authorised Indian distributor, they will have proper import documentation and taxes. If the importer has paid the taxes, he will resell in the market ONLY with a tax invoice, since he will otherwise be liable for the VAT himself. Therefore a good way to ensure that you are getting the genuine article is to insist on a tax invoice, since original goods would have been tax paid anyway. When the dealers offer you the 'option' of a tax invoice, that means the product has not come through the proper channels and also cannot be warranted. Normally this also means fake. In either case, you cannot be sure of the product which has no invoice.

Its the same cost for me here in Cochin from where i got my helmet, but he too doesn't have the visor in stock. Other shops around the area seems to be selling it at 600/-
Just wanted to conform on the price.

Thanks mate



Bro, Modular helmets are not exactly safe, sure it's great when you go eventless(read crash) through out the use. Like me, i had a Studds Ninja convertible helmet, used it for 2 years without any problem, din't have any falls or anything, but as time went the flipping mechanism itself started making the helmet feel flimsy, so i would suggest to get a full face helmet itself and you seem to have a pretty generous budget for a helmet, so why spend that much on a helmet which compromises on safety, when you can get superb one's which provide exceptional safety instead ?

Just saying totally your choice.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

While I would totally agree on this argument in the case of Indian Made helmets, since the verification and testing systems are so lax, the properly certified imported modular helmets have to pass the same stringent crash testing that their full faced equivalents do, so the mechanisms are designed to take severe impacts. Modular helmets abroad form a big chunk of the market and are considered as good as full faced helmets from the safety perspective. In other words, a genuine DOT or ECE certified modular helmet has the same safety rating as the full faced one. Mind you these helmets are normally much heavier than the full faced versions because of the heavy hinges and locks required to pass the tests. The very heavy duty construction of these properly certified helmets would make the Indian equivalents look like toys. However, the caveat lies on "genuine certification"!

All that said however, I personally would prefer a helmet that has fewer components that could fail, and prefer regular full face helmets too!

[krish2778]

With insane quality comes high prices too..
I think the only modular helmet from a reputed brand was of Nolan. Are there any other big names which provide modular helmets ?

Thanks for sharing that detail. It was very informative.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

While I would totally agree on this argument in the case of Indian Made helmets, since the verification and testing systems are so lax, the properly certified imported modular helmets have to pass the same stringent crash testing that their full faced equivalents do, so the mechanisms are designed to take severe impacts. Modular helmets abroad form a big chunk of the market and are considered as good as full faced helmets from the safety perspective. In other words, a genuine DOT or ECE certified modular helmet has the same safety rating as the full faced one. Mind you these helmets are normally much heavier than the full faced versions because of the heavy hinges and locks required to pass the tests. The very heavy duty construction of these properly certified helmets would make the Indian equivalents look like toys. However, the caveat lies on "genuine certification"!

All that said however, I personally would prefer a helmet that has fewer components that could fail, and prefer regular full face helmets too!