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  • Re: Helmets

    Guys,

    can we have some sort of sanity back on this thread. You all have expressed your opinions and point of view. Kindly do not try to push your opinion down others' throat.

    Lets end the arguments here.

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    • Re: Helmets

      Originally posted by thegeneboy View Post
      Damn I totally forgot about uploading pics.. I will do it by tonight for sure.. One pic for now though
      The SOL SS1 as shown on web has zero graphics ................ so my ques is "YE GRAPHICS AAYA KAHA SE ?? "

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      Pranav


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      • Re: Helmets

        The hardest to accept is a difference of opinion and this difficulty attains 'beyond superlative' proportions given the volumes and promptness of communication possible through the internet now. Group discussions also suffer from a 'critical mass' phenomenon - that beyond a certain number of participants the discussion teeters towards a slugfest at the slightest indication of a majority-minority split. In shorter and simpler words (now that I hopefully have weighed you people down under some heavy 'legal' language), please do not draw virtual daggers at virtual provocation. Don't go so personal over a few pixels on the screen. Smile and make way.

        Coming back to topic, the standards have existed in India since for long as are the mandatory sampling implementation methods for the industry. As [MENTION=11065]niranjanvaidya[/MENTION] has shared a link here, below are some more for those curious enough to take a detailed look at what helmet standards mean to our country's safety standards.

        This link is aout the conformity standards for safety helmets to be manufactured or sold in India.



        This one below is about the Sampling Standards that our manufacturers are supposed to follow to attain and retain BIS certification:



        The one below here is a regional link put up by Chandigarh Police but gives a list of BIS approved brands/manufacturers for two wheeler helmets in India
        A mid-depth cap with classic style for any occasion, this Nike Club Cap comes in smooth cotton twill that's been softly washed for casual, daily comfort. Soft and unstructured, the precurved bill makes for easy styling, and the adjustable back-strap lets you find the right fit. Nike Hat Size 6 1/2 6 5/8 6 3/4 6 7/8 7 7 1/8 7 1/4 7 3/8 7 1/2 7 5/8 7 3/4 Head Size (CM) 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 Alpha Size - - XS - S - M - L - XL Swhoosh Flex - XS/S XS/S XS/S - MPO77 XS/S - MPO77 MPO77 - MPO77 LOGIN - OS MPO77 - MPO77 LINK - OS MPO77 - MPO77 ALTERNATIF - OS MPO77 - MPO77 2026 - OS MPO77 LOGIN - XL-XXL MPO77 LINK - XL-XXL Adjustable MPO77 LOGIN XS XS XS - S - OS XS - S - OS XS - S - OS XS -S - OS S - OS S - OS - XL OS - XL OS - XL XL Adjustable Women's S S S - OS S - OS S - OS S - OS OS - L OS - L L L L - - - XS/S - MPO77 - MPO77 LOGIN - MPO77 LINK - Dual Size Women's - - MPO77 - MPO77 LOGIN - MPO77 ALTERNATIF - - - - Size Disclaimer: There may be a 1-2cm difference in measurements depending on the development and manufacturing process. Color Disclaimer: Actual colors may vary. This is due to the fact that every computer monitor has a different capability to display colors, we cannot guarantee that the color you see accurately portrays the true color of the product.


        And this last one below gives a visual on what the tests demanded by BIS are like:
        Welcome to Spark

        True that this comes from a private manufacturer's website but this is just to learn about the actual testing procedures.
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        • Re: Helmets

          So after going through couple of pages.

          summery :

          1. All genuine Indian helmet manufactures are complying with Govt standards
          2. Its safe to buy Indian ISI original helmets
          3. Imported Helmets of many brands are not certified with Indian standards but without certification still they meet or exceed safety standards set here.
          4. There are misuses of ISI marks on many fake helmets
          5. There is no way to identify the fake imported helmets with originals .
          6. back to point number 1

          conclusion [me] : - go to market , personally check helmet and quality and buy in-around your budget.

          @oldFox sir ji thanks for sharing link, very informative . never knew companies like Spark will also carry such tests
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          • Re: Helmets

            Originally posted by xpranav View Post
            The SOL SS1 as shown on web has zero graphics ................ so my ques is "YE GRAPHICS AAYA KAHA SE ?? "
            The graphics ones isn't updated on the SPG site but its available at the distributor outlets.. Few more pics
            Top View:


            Side View:

            Front View

            Vents at the back

            Vents on the front (near the mouth)

            Vents on the side front

            Vents on the top (one each on either side)

            A single vent at the center top

            Vents on the top front portion

            Padding

            Last edited by thegeneboy; 06-05-2013, 12:24 AM.

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            • Re: Helmets

              Guys, please chill down. Xbhp stands for Safety, and its each person's choice as to what he believes in.

              My opinion is that ISI mark is no guarantee of top quality. My Vega helmet is living proof of it. Such low quality helmet it is. Sunvisor broke, modular cord broke, and its visor is full of scratches now!!

              Studds proved to be life saver for me. And yes, Nuvo, Arai, Shoei, etc. are better than our Indian helmets anyday. Even they have cheaper and costlier models with different materials used though. And a genuine ISI mark only guarantees that the shell is upto a certain standard, not mentioning anything about comfort, the jaw area's durability, etc.

              Anyways, let me tell you about a helmet I just bought. I got it for Rs. 2200. Its a Steelbird, sponsor-marked by MTV Roadies. Couldn't get anything better in Ajmer.












              Its modular, it has a sun visor. It feels very good, fits tightly enough to be comfortable too. I won't use its modular system much, unless its required, because I wouldn't want it to get loose. Most Indian helmets have this problem.

              And, It was the only 580mm size modular+sun specs helmet available in the store. (The same model was also available in full black color, costing Rs. 1800. Functionally the exact same but its size was 600mm, loose for me.)

              Guys, I couldn't spot this model even on company's website. Which model is this? Have I paid the right amount for this (Rs. 2200)?
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              • Re: Helmets

                Ok, now for some jugaad !
                If road-side helmets can get a ISI certified sticker for their helmets, I am planning to do the same for my LS2, just in case a cop decides to harass me ! :P



                Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post

                Anyways, let me tell you about a helmet I just bought. I got it for Rs. 2200. Its a Steelbird, sponsor-marked by MTV Roadies. Couldn't get anything better in Ajmer.

                That's a cool helmet mate, like the graphics and the color.
                My friend has a similar Blue and white helmet which he had bought for 2100/-.
                Is your helmet heavy? My friend's helmet was pretty heavy though!


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                Last edited by metaphoric.el; 06-05-2013, 10:28 AM.
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                • Re: Helmets

                  Originally posted by metaphoric.el View Post
                  That's a cool helmet mate, like the graphics and the color.
                  My friend has a similar Blue and white helmet which he had bought for 2100/-.
                  Is your helmet heavy? My friend's helmet was pretty heavy though!
                  Yes, it definitely feels heavy at --- kgs or so. No worries though.

                  EDIT: [MENTION=59230]metaphoric.el[/MENTION]: It weighs 1.5 kgs, not 1.25.
                  Last edited by Samarth 619; 06-05-2013, 06:15 PM. Reason: updated wrongly mentioned weight.
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                  • Re: Helmets

                    Originally posted by thegeneboy View Post
                    The graphics ones isn't updated on the SPG site but its available at the distributor outlets.. Few more pics
                    Aah ! looks coooooool ................. do me a little favour, can you post a few pics of you wearing it in daylight ............ My purpose is to see the effectiveness of the peak above the helmet. Is it adjustable as detailed on the web ??

                    Warm Regards,
                    Pranav


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                    • Re: Helmets

                      Originally posted by thegeneboy View Post
                      The graphics ones isn't updated on the SPG site but its available at the distributor outlets.. Few more pics
                      Wah, so many vents, must feel like AC !
                      Nice one mate, Liked the helmet. Graphics are pretty cool too !




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                      • Re: Helmets

                        Hi Guys,

                        I have been following this thread for sometime and have decided to invest in a good helmet. Any pointers on where to buy a good Helmet in Hyderabad?

                        I see that a lot of people are opting of SOL and it seems to be of good quality, not sure if I can get it locally here in Hyderabad, any shop that stock SOL in Hyderabad?

                        People who have bought SOL on-line, how was the experience and did you have any issues with the size?

                        Recently visited Adventureontherocks.com, but seems like they are robbing people in daylight, I was quoted 4200 for an LS2, when I can see that ebay has them for 3500 or less. Plus the helmets in the store did not have any ECE sticker or any other certification and the text on the visor was all in Chinese. Really no t sure if they are the Original LS2s.

                        Would appreciate any help!
                        Keep Calm and Continue Riding!

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                        • Re: Helmets

                          Originally posted by Trideep View Post
                          Recently visited Adventureontherocks.com, but seems like they are robbing people in daylight, I was quoted 4200 for an LS2, when I can see that ebay has them for 3500 or less. Plus the helmets in the store did not have any ECE sticker or any other certification and the text on the visor was all in Chinese. Really no t sure if they are the Original LS2s.

                          Would appreciate any help!
                          No ECE sticker is a concern and yes LS2 is Chinese.

                          About the ECE sticker: I think you will get better replies from seniors.

                          About the cost: you have to specify which model you saw in the store and which model you saw in ebay. As they have different ranges of products the costs vary too. I have heard that adventureontherocks sells genuine stuff only. You cannot say the same about the stuff sold on ebay. You may try SPG or PlanetDSG too. SPG will have more affordable helmets than PlanetDSG, I believe.

                          Again, from the discussion going on in this forum for some time I infer that you may want to go for a helmet with ISI marking on it. That is if you live someplace where Police will be checking for the 'quality' seal on helmets.

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                          • Re: Helmets

                            Originally posted by Trideep View Post
                            Hi Guys,

                            I have been following this thread for sometime and have decided to invest in a good helmet. Any pointers on where to buy a good Helmet in Hyderabad?

                            I see that a lot of people are opting of SOL and it seems to be of good quality, not sure if I can get it locally here in Hyderabad, any shop that stock SOL in Hyderabad?

                            People who have bought SOL on-line, how was the experience and did you have any issues with the size?

                            Recently visited Adventureontherocks.com, but seems like they are robbing people in daylight, I was quoted 4200 for an LS2, when I can see that ebay has them for 3500 or less. Plus the helmets in the store did not have any ECE sticker or any other certification and the text on the visor was all in Chinese. Really no t sure if they are the Original LS2s.

                            Would appreciate any help!

                            adventure on the rocks is a robber...

                            go to biking terminal : somajiguda.. next to TVS showroom. underground kinda shop.
                            helmet world : ranugunj cross road/ erragadda.
                            helmet xxxxx : abids.. sports complex
                            the street flames : tadbund.. near hanuman temple.

                            these places you will find.. ls2/cross.. with street flames you will have sparx too...

                            SOL i am doubtful but you can try...


                            ls2 .. 3500 and under..
                            cross under 3k

                            sparx at street flames 4500 and above... check em out..
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                            • Re: Helmets

                              Originally posted by evyavan View Post
                              No ECE sticker is a concern and yes LS2 is Chinese.

                              About the ECE sticker: I think you will get better replies from seniors.

                              About the cost: you have to specify which model you saw in the store and which model you saw in ebay. As they have different ranges of products the costs vary too. I have heard that adventureontherocks sells genuine stuff only. You cannot say the same about the stuff sold on ebay. You may try SPG or PlanetDSG too. SPG will have more affordable helmets than PlanetDSG, I believe.

                              Again, from the discussion going on in this forum for some time I infer that you may want to go for a helmet with ISI marking on it. That is if you live someplace where Police will be checking for the 'quality' seal on helmets.
                              ISI marking should not be a problem, I mean I have not seen too many cops in Hyderabad looking for these markings. Don't remember the models that I saw in adventureontherocks.
                              Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Post
                              adventure on the rocks is a robber...

                              go to biking terminal : somajiguda.. next to TVS showroom. underground kinda shop.
                              helmet world : ranugunj cross road/ erragadda.
                              helmet xxxxx : abids.. sports complex
                              the street flames : tadbund.. near hanuman temple.

                              these places you will find.. ls2/cross.. with street flames you will have sparx too...

                              SOL i am doubtful but you can try...


                              ls2 .. 3500 and under..
                              cross under 3k

                              sparx at street flames 4500 and above... check em out..
                              Thanks for posting this. Great to know all the shops and what they stock. Have been to Biking Terminal in Somajiguda, that's where I got my Vega which was stolen recently, and that is why am looking for a replacement.

                              Good to know that Sparx is available in Hyderabad, will definitely be better if I can check them out in person before making a purchase since SOL is only available online as of now for the Hyderabad folks. Will visit Street Flames as soon as possible.
                              Keep Calm and Continue Riding!

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                              • Re: Helmets

                                Hey guys I'm in Bangalore right now and would be headed to lalbagh to buy a helmet as most of you suggested
                                I wanted to know what would be a good bargain for a ls2 ?
                                And any specific shop?
                                Thanks in advance
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