Universal : Riding Gear Thread

[aargee]

A* is good no doubt, but the point is, you can get the same job done by other manufacturers. This is like comparing F650GS, R6, GT650R, N650R; all of them can do the job, but, what something gives more than other & what it does not is what one has to live up with. That's why I said, baseline the requirements thoroughly.

[RAK]

Well. I can't afford RJays Swift...
However which one from DSG Phoenix or DSG Nero , would you suggest ??
This question is for revvhard as well ...

I would suggest go for a mesh Jacket for Mumbai's humid climate. It will be very difficult in a textile jacket in Mumbai's traffic. I guess there is a difference of 500 Rs between DSG Nero and DSG Maze/RJays Swift.

If you're only concerned about wearing it in rains, between the two it would be the Nero - however, if you need something that can be worn even in hot weather, then a mesh is more sensible.

Even if you buy a jacket now because of price concerns that doesn't suit you for different seasons, chances are you won't wear it if you find it too hot - thereby defeating the purpose in the first place. I know many guys who have made this mistake.

Analyse your requirement first - then make your decision. What may appear pricey initially may actually save you money in the long run, by serving multiple roles.

+100. Completely agree with you.

[Nagesh Patankar]

Nagesh, i will say go for a mesh jacket...no matter what brand you choose.
For the climate of Mumbai, its the most suitable.
Maze is a mesh jacket from DSG, but i don't know if its equipped with a rain liner. Whereas Rjays Swift is also a mesh with a removable rain liner. Both cost you 6k. Rest is your choice...

PS: I got my Rjays Octane a couple of weeks back. At first had almost decided to get Nero. After trying out Nero, felt that its a jacket which is mostly suited for the northern states where you have low temperatures. If you wear that in Mumbai....be assured that even a 5 min traffic halt in summers will be enough to drench you in sweat.

abhee,
Thanks yaar ... That was a nice explanation. I think I will go for Rjays Swift then... and hope i can use it as an all weather jacket... I believe the only place in Mumbai to get Rjays Swift is Bachoo Motors in Tardeo, right ? Is there any place in Thane, Mulund or Navi Mumbai where i can get it ??

[Nagesh Patankar]

I would suggest go for a mesh Jacket for Mumbai's humid climate. It will be very difficult in a textile jacket in Mumbai's traffic. I guess there is a difference of 500 Rs between DSG Nero and DSG Maze/RJays Swift.




+100. Completely agree with you.

Hey RAK,
Thank u so much. Its going to be my first proper riding jacket. Hence, so many questions.. I think i will go for Rjays Swift. Which one would you suggest in terms of durability/quality - Dsg Maze or Rjays Swift ??

[RAK]

abhee,
Thanks yaar ... That was a nice explanation. I think I will go for Rjays Swift then... and hope i can use it as an all weather jacket... I believe the only place in Mumbai to get Rjays Swift is Bachoo Motors in Tardeo, right ? Is there any place in Thane, Mulund or Navi Mumbai where i can get it ??

No you need to go till Tradeo for one....and I would suggest you better go in the store itself (don't order online since it is in the same city) to try out different sizes and the one which will fit you the best.

AFAIK Mumbai has only 2 seasons (never saw a winter season in Mumbai since my birth ) and Swift will take care of these two. Altough the rain liner on any of the jackets is not perfect and if you need to keep yourself 100% dry then better buy a duckback rain jacket also. Rest all your requirements will be completed with with Swift (CE approved armor, Mesh & Rain Liner).

Hey RAK,
Thank u so much. Its going to be my first proper riding jacket. Hence, so many questions.. I think i will go for Rjays Swift. Which one would you suggest in terms of durability/quality - Dsg Maze or Rjays Swift ??

Both the Jackets are at par with each other. But since Bachoo motors store is in the city I prefered RJays. Also I faced a problem with the original rain liner which was leaking near the shoulders. I got it replaced from Bachoo Motors for new one free of cost. But many guys at XBhp are using DSG and I dont see that it has disappointed anyone.

But I would any day prefer Bachoo for very nice shopping experience. Read Abhee's Octane review few pages back. Both of us were in a dilema what he needs to buy and we finally got an Octane for him.

[Nagesh Patankar]

If you're only concerned about wearing it in rains, between the two it would be the Nero - however, if you need something that can be worn even in hot weather, then a mesh is more sensible.

Even if you buy a jacket now because of price concerns that doesn't suit you for different seasons, chances are you won't wear it if you find it too hot - thereby defeating the purpose in the first place. I know many guys who have made this mistake.

Analyse your requirement first - then make your decision. What may appear pricey initially may actually save you money in the long run, by serving multiple roles.

Hey Sunnyside up , Thank u very much. Appreciate your input. I think i will gor for the Mesh Jacket even if it costs a little more ... Which one would be better in terms of quality/durability - DSG Maze or Rjays Swift ?? had another question - on 07/19/2011 - i read a post by PlanetDsg.com - that they have a sale on A*TRC-1 . Is that a mesh Jacket suitable for Mumbai climate ?

Thanks again !!

[Nagesh Patankar]

No you need to go till Tradeo for one....and I would suggest you better go in the store itself (don't order online since it is in the same city) to try out different sizes and the one which will fit you the best.

AFAIK Mumbai has only 2 seasons (never saw a winter season in Mumbai since my birth ) and Swift will take care of these two. Altough the rain liner on any of the jackets is not perfect and if you need to keep yourself 100% dry then better buy a duckback rain jacket also. Rest all your requirements will be completed with with Swift (CE approved armor, Mesh & Rain Liner).

Ok great.... it will cost around 6k right... Sorry but i am in office. Hence can't access websites... Surprised how come xbhp is accessible !!! By the way on 07/19/2011 - i read a post by PlanetDsg.com - that they have a sale on A*TRC-1 . Is that a mesh Jacket suitable for Mumbai climate ?

[hellraiSEr]

Hey.. All those who are using RJays Swift or Octane.. It doesn't have CE approved armour. It only has Foam paddings, which is EN 1621-1 approved (as shown in the website). I was thinking of getting myself a jacket, but am confused regarding the protectors. DSG has CE approved armour, but RJays doesn't. Any pros or cons of the same??

[RAK]

Hey.. All those who are using RJays Swift or Octane.. It doesn't have CE approved armour. It only has Foam paddings, which is EN 1621-1 approved (as shown in the website). I was thinking of getting myself a jacket, but am confused regarding the protectors. DSG has CE approved armour, but RJays doesn't. Any pros or cons of the same??

EN 1621-1 is infact a CE standard.
All the RJays jackets protectors are CE certified. I guess there is some mistake in their website and they haven't mentioned specifically that it is CE certified.

Check this which I got from this website Skins Cafe - Clothing Technologies - CE Labels:


Ce-labelling and how it works
Here is a short list of examples for the demands in the CE tests, especially for protective motorcycle clothing. The label and the tests are there to give the product, the clothing and the accessories, a certain standard. Through extensive studies of actual accidents the exposed areas of the body could be divided into various zones.
EN 1621-1
Protection against mechanical impact on motorcyclists
Separate or combined protectors for shoulder, elbow, hips and knees – the most endangered parts of the body. Except for the test criteria, described below, the standard also describes the shape and how large the protected area should be.
Test method: Every protector is hit with a steel object nine times in various places, corresponding to a force of 50 J. The transferred force from the nine hits to the other side may, on average, not exceed 35 kN. And no single impact may exceed 50 kN. Every protector must be approved through these tests in order to have its CE-label.

[stefanm]

The Octane definitely has CE approved armor in the shoulders and elbow/forearms, the back protector is not CE marked, the armor is made by Powertector of Korea, the main reason I had purchased the jacket is that it was advertised with Knox armor including a CE certified back protector, the only thing that I am disappointed with is the non CE certified back protector, the Powertector armor is pretty decent I guess it must have been cheaper than the Knox gear.

[lijok]

Ok great.... it will cost around 6k right... Sorry but i am in office. Hence can't access websites... Surprised how come xbhp is accessible !!! By the way on 07/19/2011 - i read a post by PlanetDsg.com - that they have a sale on A*TRC-1 . Is that a mesh Jacket suitable for Mumbai climate ?

NO! T-RC-1 is not a mesh jacket On the contrary, its a water proof jacket with the inner liner being water repellant liner which cannot be removed.

[hellraiSEr]

EN 1621-1 is infact a CE standard.
All the RJays jackets protectors are CE certified. I guess there is some mistake in their website and they haven't mentioned specifically that it is CE certified.

Check this which I got from this website Skins Cafe - Clothing Technologies - CE Labels:


Ce-labelling and how it works
Here is a short list of examples for the demands in the CE tests, especially for protective motorcycle clothing. The label and the tests are there to give the product, the clothing and the accessories, a certain standard. Through extensive studies of actual accidents the exposed areas of the body could be divided into various zones.
EN 1621-1
Protection against mechanical impact on motorcyclists
Separate or combined protectors for shoulder, elbow, hips and knees – the most endangered parts of the body. Except for the test criteria, described below, the standard also describes the shape and how large the protected area should be.
Test method: Every protector is hit with a steel object nine times in various places, corresponding to a force of 50 J. The transferred force from the nine hits to the other side may, on average, not exceed 35 kN. And no single impact may exceed 50 kN. Every protector must be approved through these tests in order to have its CE-label.

Thanks RAK.. I checked out the site and also the CE standards. It is mandatory to display the specific rating rather than writing that it is CE certified. Anyways, it works either ways as long as it is genuine. BTW, a little bit ahead in the same page, the EN 1621-2 is mentioned, which is for back protection. Can we get such a protector and add it to the jacket?

The Octane definitely has CE approved armor in the shoulders and elbow/forearms, the back protector is not CE marked, the armor is made by Powertector of Korea, the main reason I had purchased the jacket is that it was advertised with Knox armor including a CE certified back protector, the only thing that I am disappointed with is the non CE certified back protector, the Powertector armor is pretty decent I guess it must have been cheaper than the Knox gear.

Hey Stefanm.. The bachoomotors site says that Octane has CE certified back protectors, whereas Swift doesn't. Is that the only difference, or more exist? As of now, I am confused between the Swift and Octane. More so coz of the military look of Octane. Compared to that, Swift looks pretty much plain jane. Does Octane really deserve the premium over the Swift just coz of the CE approved back protector?

[Sunnyside_up!]

Hey Sunnyside up , Thank u very much. Appreciate your input. I think i will gor for the Mesh Jacket even if it costs a little more ... Which one would be better in terms of quality/durability - DSG Maze or Rjays Swift ?? had another question - on 07/19/2011 - i read a post by PlanetDsg.com - that they have a sale on A*TRC-1 . Is that a mesh Jacket suitable for Mumbai climate ?

Thanks again !!

The AStars is NOT a mesh and IMHO not suitable for a humid and hot climate.

Between the Maze and the Rjays, I would opt for the Rjays, since the Maze has a leather component which requires separate care and is not easy to wash. The Rjays, on the other hand will be easier to maintain.

[stefanm]

Hey Stefanm.. The bachoomotors site says that Octane has CE certified back protectors, whereas Swift doesn't. Is that the only difference, or more exist? As of now, I am confused between the Swift and Octane. More so coz of the military look of Octane. Compared to that, Swift looks pretty much plain jane. Does Octane really deserve the premium over the Swift just coz of the CE approved back protector?[/QUOTE]

I can't tell you much about the swift as I ordered my jacket via mail order, attached are pictures of the back and shoulder protection, the back protector is the same on both sides with no indication of the level of protection, so it's just a foam protector, similar to most jackets.

The website seems to be displaying incorrect information, the site was only changed from Knox to Powertector after I brought it to their attention. Whilst I am very happy with the jacket, the only disappointment being the non CE marked back protector, I would have probably ordered something from the US in retrospect. Ultimately the decision is yours, it's still a great jacket, just not happy with misleading information.

[RAK]

Thanks RAK.. I checked out the site and also the CE standards. It is mandatory to display the specific rating rather than writing that it is CE certified. Anyways, it works either ways as long as it is genuine. BTW, a little bit ahead in the same page, the EN 1621-2 is mentioned, which is for back protection. Can we get such a protector and add it to the jacket?

Yes you are correct EN 1621-2 standard is for back protectors. But most of the manufacturers don't provides a jacket with it. I have seen a lots of people on internaltional forums claiming that their back protectors are not EN 1621-2 certified which it should be. Anyways you can always get one. Check with the DSG guys if the have any. But I guess the fitting and all will be a big question and will be different in different jackets.