i prefer karizma r for your requirments

i would say dont wait till diwali.. firstly all bike price have rised from 800 to 1200 bugs due to increase in vat.. now there are going to increase price by more 1500 to 2000 bugs as the yamaha dealer said increase in fuel and raw material prices... so at least get your bike booked so that even if the price increases... you might not be at much loss... its not only the bike cost got to think about the registration also... and the sweets and party.. your friends will ask..

+100 to that. I have to give 3 party's as it seems. Better think about this too.

agree brother....!!..friends dont spare you and especially if its something special...
So how does this booking thing works??..I mean I would be paying some initial booking amount(say 5K or 10K)..So when would financing thing happen??...I mean at the booking time only I would be applying for loan or at the time of delivery??..

You can apply for the loan when you are booking the bike. Loan Agents are usually present in the Showrooms so they can give you the details.

Cheers for the new bike bro.

I don know about the phase out..But in chennai the dealers are blocked the reservation for two months..

I think HH will stop ZMA R sales to just boost up the ZMR sales...Anyway just check nearest dealershop..Its a VFM bike..

My wife loves my R15, she avoids wearing sarees, that's a plus when you own a sport bike.

Nice idea bro!! And here I though I am the only one with that idea.

Hey guys..Anyone from Chandigarh area..??
Actually I am planning to book my bike around 7th Oct (Salary time..!!..)...I might be able to save enough for down payment by then...So any idea about waiting time for R15 in Chandigarh area??...If I book in the first week of Oct, then can I get it before Diwali??(5th Nov) ....Actually I wanna go to my hometown on my new bike on Diwali(with a lot of gifts for my family and also surprise them..!!...)

Can I get it in 15-20 days??...

That makes 2 of us my friend.

1) Fazer costs more than the P220 and it doesn't do half as well in the power, torque, acceleration, top end, braking or fuel economy department. After using the P220 i used a mates FZ and it literally struggled to hit 90-100. I mean, that point of struggle would be felt at 135 on my P220. It was so sad, i literally stopped the bike on the side of the road and asked him to use his own bike.

2) You are a lot in street racing? LOL, do your stuff offline and stop self proclaiming yourself to be some sort of roadside rossi.

3) There isn't ONE bike that beats the shit out of the Fazer, there are MANY. P220, P200, P180, CBZ classic, Pulsar 180 classic, any properly tuned Bullet, Karizma, R15, Apache RTR 180 and RTR 160 are the few that i can think of.

4) Nearly everone will agree with me when i say that the Karizma is arguable the best bike to climb hills on. The engine is in such a relaxed state in the stock setting. Torque is beautiful.
Also, i didn't know uphill torque, downhill torque and flat road torque figures vary for every bike. LOL, seriously stop talking through your ass.

5) Braking of the R15 is a class apart, Fazer's rear drum is nowhere close to it. The only reason your pathetic ass hasn't skidded off the cliff yet is because your sitting on a 140 section rear tire. Even a spaz would be able to control a bike with that kind of tire.

6) Get real, there isn't going to be any 50cc bike that hit's 200km/hr. Shut up.

7) It isn't always about cc, but if you think it never counts then i suggest you quit xBHP.com and go read an auto magazine or something and come back when you have enough knowledge.
"There is no replacement for displacement."

8) I will agree with you on that one. Quality is top notch in case of Yamaha and even though i own a P220 i respect every Yamaha bike made till date. There is a reason the R1 is the best (arguable). I also agree Bajaj nor Hero Honda will never come close to Yamaha in terms of sheer class and reliability.
But unlike you, most of us care more about the product than just to buy something because it's manufactured by some XYZ company. We like to spend money in our best interest and not the company's.

9) Now i will tell you why you see an RX100 on the road and not a CD-100. It's because the RX100 is a two stroke bike and the CD-100 is a four stroke. As we know (maybe you don't) 2 strokes are not meant to be kept stock and many, many retarded roadside rossis like you want a cheap second hand bike that can be ported because they can't afford anything else.. so they can make a nuisance on the road and harass other motorists and they think they are gaining all the girls' attention.

Don't get me wrong, there are many self respecting people who own RX100's due to sentimental value and i absolutely respect that.

10) Any showroom would call you up a hundred times and try to persuade you to buy their product. It's called business you idiot. Be it Yamaha, Bajaj, Honda, Mercedes, Tata, Ford or the roadside hawker who sells cheap sunglasses for Rs. 30/-

11) 221,222,223,224,225... LOL I see what's happening here. You're simmering about the fact that you paid more for your 150cc bike because Yamaha doesn't have a high capacity engine in it's local stable.
I feel sorry for you. I hope someday, whilst you are "street racing downhill on your fazer" you have a sudden realization that you, in fact have no knowledge about bikes at all after having 32 yamahas. Which i highly doubt.

You are a ****ing retard man. Excuse my language but you really are. I don't even expect you to get my points because i know how much of a retard you are.

I'm surprised you haven't been banned from this site for making such a fool of yourself.

I respect the fact that you are a true Yamaha fan. I am one too. I own a P220 though and by saying that every useless person owns a Pulsar (in your other post in another thread) you are offending me.
Everyone has the right to choose a bike according to their likes and dislikes and by making the above derogatory statements you are indirectly calling them stupid for not putting their money on something that you like. It is their money and their choice. Shove your trash talk up your ass.

P.s. Your english is absolutely pathetic.

I doubt CBZ Classic/Star would get the better of FZ.A P-180 classic in good condition might(very few & far in between though)

The braking on FZ is very reassuring and on less than ideal conditions, I found them better than R15.(Do not use rear brakes, you may refer the braking thread for more)

^^His English is really pathetic, tried to make him see the light, but in vain.

dude will share what i know from little knowledge i have

In hills none ride at top gear for long time you will be engaging the lower gears quite often so a bike with good low end torque should perform well ;As of i knew only A180 has a strong low end torque but since your hilly affair will not be long lets give it little importance since neither your city riding is too much its very less ;A-180 your forearm will ache if you take it on long distances braking is pretty cool but the tyres???????? not to worry they could be changed
On R-15 , you mentioned you are gonna get married in a year if you are planning to keep your bike for more than a year the right person to ask suggestion is not us its your fiancee dude because p220 and R-15 the pillion comfort is not that good ;R-15 is the best 150cc india has ever seen and p220 not to be said lots its the fastest indian bike in market now ; I advise you to take your fiancee with you for test rides if possible (esp. when you TD p220 and R-15).
Karizma ZMR - go through the threads you can scarcely look for complaints on the FI of karizma where as you can see lots of complaints on the FI system with the p220 A160 RE500 seating position perfect for touring(dude your bike is used much for touring as mentioned by you since weekend rides asmentioned by you are comparitively more) you also have a complete full front fairing it had performed well on hills too you can read bikers laddakh-leh expeditions on zmr more next to RE's
As over all consideration i would recommend you to opt ZMR
I strongly advise go for whatever your heart beats for ;Any machine is a wonder of its own kind . My best wishes..

My dad has owned a CBZ classic for 11 years of which i have used it for the last 2 and i can say for a fact that it is a much better performer in terms of raw power. Top end of the FZ may be about 5km/hr higher, but that is only because you won't get a brand new CBZ classic.

Yes, i was referring to the rear brakes. Frontal stopping power is more than satisfactory on the FZ.
Cheers

This is the point I was trying to make,

As humans we are bound to have a difference in opinion, the point is how we present it & try to see the other side w/o being biased and staying blind-folded in face of truth.

FZ's top-end isn't much to write home about, pick any mag(whomever figs. you would trust and see the difference), but all these are sundry and figs do tell half the story, I am sure you will enjoy a CBZ more on a twisty tarmac than a FZ and I would just do the opposite. (The classic CBZ was a gem I tell you and it has its share of accolades and to me it is STILL one of the best looker)

^^Had chosen a CBZ* over Apace-150 on a hilly section as I was more confident with the CBZ.