Guess ??



Yet another ' 80s machine, way ahead of all ( in its category)
Just picked couple of weeks before....
Can you guess, what it is???
( have removed some flesh for safe shipping...hence looks Skinny!!)
Just severely working on to make her screammmmm!!

Yes, its a Peugeot Sportif & the first moped in India to have a self starter.

YOU are right Frank !!

Your absolutely RIGHT Buddy...yes it is a Peugeot Sportif !!
Almost started...just trying to fix the electrical s in a single stroke itself
Will post the pics soon, very soon!!
Frank did you notice a point...
Many of our friends, who never come to the forum for discussion for past 2 months ( after me, not responding to many en quires of their requirement of parts , through Telephone , PM & e-mail ) ,As I am not a parts dealer you know..
I don't think this is not a healthy behavior of real enthusiasts
Even real interesting topics( Machines) are not discussed.
any way 'am posting the pics & write up for few enthusiasts like you!!

Yes Bro, noted your point, and no need to respond to Parts enquiries. true enthusiasts should discuss real interesting topics releated to Classic Bikes/mopeds/scooters here. BTW i'v seen your post of Vicy-2 moped which u posted on TBHP, hope u'll start the resto soon.

Was it really termed as Moped when it had ES?

Sir, Can i ask a favor - It would be great if you could let know us here in advance about any shows you are participating (of-course with your collection) so that guys like me can try seeing at-least a few of your machines without troubling your shop & routine. Yes i know we are always welcome but you know the problem lies with my time-planning.

You asked "termed as Moped when it had ES? "
Any Sub hundred cc machines, that to with step thro' & twist and go ( gear less) are termed as Mopeds, at least in India ( Just ignoring the Automobile perfect definitions)
Yes, this PEGOUT Sportif , was a Electric start, with vario matic transmission !!
For sure will write complete inside story of this beautiful machine which Indian public failed to accept at '80 s.
Guess, at first week of September, my city ( district) Automobile parts association may arrange a " Auto Show", where this time ,I have planned to display ONLY SUB 100 cc two wheelers like Explorer, Silver plus, H.student, Sportif, Early Luna (1972), Mofa, Motobecane, Pionyr Jawa,Jet yezdi, if possible my Rap Crown & Vicky ...
sure will PM you friend !!

Sir your collection has made my jaws touch the floor. The restoration job that you do is truly admirable, You detailing is awesome and the restored bikes looks like they have just appeared form the past in full glory.
Keep up the good work..
Cheers

Thanks for your compliment John, guess you are not KID ding , there is is a PM for you buddy

Muthu sir!
ive been following your threads for a long time now both here as well as in team bhp and i have no other words to say other than truly mind boggling!This inspires young classic motorcycle enthusiasts like me to follow your footsteps.I would really like to see your collection firsthand when i come sometime to Coimbatore especially the Brit bikes. I am so much in awe of those Brit beauties and would like to own one sometime when i can afford one.U have your own collection of them! Right now i am happy with my Bullet that i bought brand new in 2009 which i will never part with. I have a small doubt here. could you tell me the exact model of the Amal carb that came with the initial Bullets that were assembled in India, was it a Pre-monobloc or a monobloc? I suppose the concentric one came later? was it 24 mm or 26 mm or even bigger?(pardon my ignorance here)also could you specify the jet sizes for the same? hope to meet you sometime.Please do restore more Brits so that we enthusiasts can drool over it!
Regards.

Thanks for your gestures friend!!
You are always welcome to my garage
You asked>>>>
I have a small doubt here. could you Pre-monobloc or a monobloc? I suppose the concentric one came later? watell me the exact model of the Amal carb that came with the initial Bullets that were assembled in India,
** At Indian made Bullets from 1955, only MONO BLOC carbs was the order till 1964, after that when concentric carbs was launched by Amal at 1967, here in Indian Bullets they slowly switched to Bing Carburetors.
Regarding the size, it was 1 1/16 inch ( approx 28mm)
Just see the carb, fixed in a 1962 Bullet ( stock one), shot this pic this evening...
Sorry as such I don't remember complete specs like, pilot, cutaway, main sizes....will post it tomorrow after checking the literature

Thanks for the info Powertwin.So the original Amal carb was approx. 28mm. But now the stock Mikcarb is only 24mm.Does that mean that the port at the head of the newer bullets are smaller? Or are they the same? Would my bullet be reverse compatible with the original spec Amal carb with the stock port? No wonder old timers claim that their bullets had better performance than the newer ones.

Early Bullets & Amal Carbs..

Vishnurags & other friends :
Accept my apologies, for posting a wrong info in my previous post on quoting to Vishnurags post!!
Extremely sorry, think age is catching up....at present working on a 700 twin RE power train, hence confused a bit !!
Now ,Vishnurags is question was>>" The type of Amal carbs used in Indian Bullets & specs of the particular carburetors"

*When 350cc "G" model Bullets launched in India by "ENFIELD INDIA Ltd" Madras at 1955
For first two years ( ie., up to 1957 ) Amal Pre- Monobloc carbs( NEEDLE TYPE) was the order
Type of the Carburetor was " AMAL 276BL/1A" ( this is a Pre-Monobloc type)
Specs of this particular carb in the Bullet G is:-
Bore -----> 15/16 inch ( approx 24 mm)
Main jet----> 130
Pilot ------> Std
Needle position --> 3
throttle valve ---.> 6/3
All the above setting with " Shallow mixing chamber nut"
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From mid 1957 AMAL Mono-Bloc carbs was introduced and continued till late '64
Type of the Monobloc carb is " Amal 376/29"
specs for the above monobloc carb is:-
Bore-------> 1" ( 25.54 mm)
main ------> 180
needle jet --> 105
needle position---> 3
throttle valve ------------> 6/4
All the above set up for with " Knitted wire & Felt Air Filter"
About Concentric Amal carbs, think they were introduced at ' 67 , worked fine & really a fuel efficient stuff compared to its predecessors, came in different sizes and models.
Wish to discuss more about many types of Carbs I have come across till now at a separate thread in near future !! ( Only Two wheeler motor Carbs )
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Vishnurags asked:-"Would my bullet be reverse compatible with the original spec Amal carb with the stock port? "

If your Bullet is a Stock G2 standard 350, no problems, can go for a Mono bloc or a Concentric carb, if you are going for any kind of performance mods at your engine, then you have to select your jets accordingly...if your engine is a B series STD 350, better go for a 28mm Concentric smooth bore carb ( but set up your jetting) will get power with fuel efficiency.
About better performance for old timers:
On those days nobody bothered about " MILEAGE " ( fuel efficiency) and availability of genuine spares at cheaper prices in India made the trick possible.......jokes apart, This OLD TIMERS Performance has to be discussed at pages together....we'll do it some time later !!

Now what exactly is a B series std 350? i thought it was the 'G2', successor of model 'G' that was manufactured here in India from 1955 onwards....(?) till it was replaced by the UCE recently. i know that the old bullets had G2 preceeding the engine number uptill the late sixties i think. Well mine is a 2009 std 350 and everything is stock except that ive changed the silencer to short bottle (with a single shell inside) and bend pipe to the long one just like the older Bullets(which is of course free flow).

I have got one more amateur question. did the silencer of the bullets back in the fifties have a shell in it or was it free flow? i am certain that the bend pipes were always free flow.do correct me if i am wrong.
i know that must be a stupid question but i want to clear all the doubts ive been having for so many years now!

hmm.. powertwin working on RE twin . I assume its an engine being worked on.

You know just the mention of a 'twin' RE raises a whole lot of curiosity. You could please share atleast some teaser info, Constellation/ Meteor or its something else? RE twins are kind of super rare in India & we'll want to hear the story.

@ vishnurags & dr.cr :
Sorry buddies, as bit busy with some construction work at my garage & residence for past 2 weeks, couldn't catch up the posts at this thread, will post details with some pics ( even vishnurags question needs some pics..) Soon, finding difficult to handle these civil work guys rather than these vintage machines