[Ownership Thread]: Yamaha YZF-R15 - Page 880 - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

harshit.d · 03-03-2010, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMax46

- Too many instances of false neautral.
- Bik'es returning a milage of around 27-29kmpl

27-29 kmpl???
Buddy that's way too low even if you are running in the bike!

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikhpaul

I had a hell of a time with false neutrals, but I think I got used to it or the bike came out of the false neutral stage.. lol

But still.. sometimes in traffic it happens.. got to learn to push the lever a little harder when shifting from 1st to 2nd gear.

-tnt

False neural troubled you all??
Really not able to believe on that. 2 of my flat mates have got R15 and i drive those a lot and i've encountered false neutral just once that too in initial few kms and never ever after that. Getting into neutral is just so damn easy in this bike!!!

satyenpoojary · 03-03-2010, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by samarr

Finally they charged me Rs 250 after I ask the rate card and told them it may vary in a huge amount to other places. Its written as 500 for r15,fazer and fz16 in their card.

That is still over priced man, ask them for the bill and scan their 'rate card' as well! Be nice and polite with the SVC guys, it helps!

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMax46

Hello one and all,

First post in this thread, just picked up a new R15 couple of days back. The prices have gone up in Andhara Pradesh (thanks to the increase % in vat). Without registration the price came to 1,12,850.

Its been two days and have done 285 km and couple of minor niggles so far.

- Too many instances of false neautral.
- Bik'es returning a milage of around 27-29kmpl

Doing a soft braking in of the engine. Keeping it below 6krpm. (i do pull it to 6k rpm on every single gear occassionally). A really good friend of mine advised me to rev the gears upto around 6k rpm n close the throttle without holding the clutch. (point made, is it helps the pistons). Is it so, if yes....please shed some light.

And sadly, I have lost one of the keys of bike and I am left with just one more. I need to get a spare key. How do I go about it ? I do have the key 4 digit key number with me....will it of any help if i contact the SVC nd give them the key no and they can gimme fresh set of keys ? And if yes, how much do i pay for it ?

Thanks and Cheers.

1) False neutral on the new bike is ok, it will eventually fade out once you have finished your run in!
2) Engine braking is not really advised, JD and GP have already confused you enough about it... I do what JD does :P Stay calm till 100KMs, then a lil bit of engine braking... and then finally a lil bit of throttle variation beyond 700 KMs... theres no rule book for these but I end up doing so!
3) Key... best of luck! somewhere in this thread someone had written about it.. finding the key from the 4 digit number is a herculean task! try making a key locally or better still replace very lock (expensive affair)

Sarvajit · 03-03-2010, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMax46

And sadly, I have lost one of the keys of bike and I am left with just one more. I need to get a spare key. How do I go about it ? I do have the key 4 digit key number with me....will it of any help if i contact the SVC nd give them the key no and they can gimme fresh set of keys ? And if yes, how much do i pay for it ?
Thanks and Cheers.

Congrats on the new purchase! A very well made decision!
Sad to hear about the key, I also lost mine within a month or two of buying the bike.
I gave an application to Pearl Yamaha citing the key no.but was of no avail. Later I managed to meet the Area Sales Manager Mr.Satyanarayana, who applied for me&personally handed me over a new set of keys in a few days.
In the meanwhile, I just spotted a blank key with the same head Yamaha logo at a local keymaker's shop&asked him to make a copy with my existing original. I got this done coz I was not too sure I would get keys from HO.
However, within a few days I got a call from ASO&received 2 keys. Result: I have 4 keys now!
Though the key no.system&replacement is common in cars, it is a bit difficult&requires many follow-ups for bikes. Mostly even the company guys will suggest you look outside.
So, I would suggest you take a good look around at local keymakers-they will have a blank with the same head. I am still using the duplicate&no problems yet.
Don't think changing the lock set is a safe option-if someone wants to flick the bike, they have means of doing it even with the handle locked&they don't need any key for it (read previous posts).
Lock set may not be available/may take too long/costly to procure.

satyenpoojary · 03-03-2010, 12:05 PM

^ the concern wasnt someone else tampering the lockset, the concern was being stranded with loosing the only key he had

akshay · 03-03-2010, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akshay

Thanks! You are correct - the sound begins only when the accelerator is in play and around 4 - 5000 RPM. I shall try your suggestion and post back the results.

Your suggestion regarding having the small sprocket cleaned worked like a charm. I had this done at the service centre during the first service and Lo! Behold - No noise. Thanks once again for some great advice.

MadMax46 · 03-03-2010, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikhpaul

I had a hell of a time with false neutrals, but I think I got used to it or the bike came out of the false neutral stage.. lol
But still.. sometimes in traffic it happens.. got to learn to push the lever a little harder when shifting from 1st to 2nd gear.
29kmpl? You're still running her in.. give her some time.

-tnt

Ok, Lets see how things turn out after the running in

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd666

@madmax 46, get the clutch adjusted, and ensure that the play on the lever is not too little or too much.

Also for the first few hundred kms its advised not to use engine braking ( as in using the engine for slowing down), So when you close the throttle, simultaneously, disengage the engine from the gearbox ( press the clutch ). After about 1000 kms you can start using engine braking. This is what i followed for my bike.

Thanks a bunch for the suggestions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd666

^^ ideally it should, since it puts a certain amount of pressure on the rings and they bed in most effectively, but still i avoid doing it, maybe thats just my way of running it in Moreover, most of your running in is already completed in the first 100kms... the next 900 kms are to make sure it smoothens out and beds in well, which im sure wouldve been discussed in this thread earlier, that the hard block of this bike doesnt make that easy a task.

Can you, please elaborate the bold part.

Quote:

Originally Posted by satyenpoojary

1) False neutral on the new bike is ok, it will eventually fade out once you have finished your run in!
2) Engine braking is not really advised, JD and GP have already confused you enough about it... I do what JD does :P Stay calm till 100KMs, then a lil bit of engine braking... and then finally a lil bit of throttle variation beyond 700 KMs... theres no rule book for these but I end up doing so!
3) Key... best of luck! somewhere in this thread someone had written about it.. finding the key from the 4 digit number is a herculean task! try making a key locally or better still replace very lock (expensive affair)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarvajit

Congrats on the new purchase! A very well made decision!
Sad to hear about the key, I also lost mine within a month or two of buying the bike.
I gave an application to Pearl Yamaha citing the key no.but was of no avail. Later I managed to meet the Area Sales Manager Mr.Satyanarayana, who applied for me&personally handed me over a new set of keys in a few days.
In the meanwhile, I just spotted a blank key with the same head Yamaha logo at a local keymaker's shop&asked him to make a copy with my existing original. I got this done coz I was not too sure I would get keys from HO.
However, within a few days I got a call from ASO&received 2 keys. Result: I have 4 keys now!
Though the key no.system&replacement is common in cars, it is a bit difficult&requires many follow-ups for bikes. Mostly even the company guys will suggest you look outside.
So, I would suggest you take a good look around at local keymakers-they will have a blank with the same head. I am still using the duplicate&no problems yet.
Don't think changing the lock set is a safe option-if someone wants to flick the bike, they have means of doing it even with the handle locked&they don't need any key for it (read previous posts).
Lock set may not be available/may take too long/costly to procure.

Thank you all. I do not think I will change the whole lock set and meanwhile I will search to make the set of keys from the local shop wallas. Made a call to Venkatesh Showroom and got couple of bad piece of info from there :-

-- According to SVC manager Shartath, company does not give spare keys, no matter what. Infact he even claimed that they never did

.

-- I picked up a Motul 20w40 mineral oil to change the engine oil be4 the first service itself. But the svc guys claims that if i do not use Yamalube, it will void the warranty. (how is it possible, i want to change to motum mineral rightaway and from first service i want to use motul fully synthetic) I know couple of R15 who are all running on Motul and they said it does not affect the warranty bit. Please help.

@Saravjit -----it would be a great help if you can give me the contact details of Mr.Satyanarayana, the area sales manager. (Honestly, iam really irritated with the attitude of the svc guys and they seem to care less)

Shreyas82 · 03-03-2010, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMax46

-- I picked up a Motul 20w40 mineral oil to change the engine oil be4 the first service itself. But the svc guys claims that if i do not use Yamalube, it will void the warranty. (how is it possible, i want to change to motum mineral rightaway and from first service i want to use motul fully synthetic) I know couple of R15 who are all running on Motul and they said it does not affect the warranty bit. Please help.

They are right, using motul does void warranty. Any particular reason for choosing motul over yamalube so early? (mineral oils only, i know the 300V synthetic is very good .)

Also, from what i've read, fully synthetic oils are recommended only after about 8 - 10k Km (but can be used earlier if you trip for long distances, i think...)

Cheers,

Shr.

satyenpoojary · 03-03-2010, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shreyas82

They are right, using motul does void warranty. Any particular reason for choosing motul over yamalube so early? (mineral oils only, i know the 300V synthetic is very good .)

Also, from what i've read, fully synthetic oils are recommended only after about 8 - 10k Km (but can be used earlier if you trip for long distances, i think...)

Cheers,

Shr.

Hey I think you got confused... he said Mineral not Synthetic

Shreyas82 · 03-03-2010, 05:33 PM

Got my third free service done yesterday at 5963 Km:

1) General service, checkup and cleaning.
2) Brakes checked and found to be good
3) Coolant topped and brake fluid checked.
4) Tappet adjustment not required, no sound or vibes so far.
5) Engine oil not changed as i had changed it at 4900 Km (I plan to start using the Yamalube semi-synth at the next change at ~ 6500 Km).
6) Clutch and chain lubricated, cleaned and adjusted.
7) Through cleaning of the rear alloy (had gotten dirty due to the chain spray falling on it.)
8) Front cone set checked.

Will be picking up a temp stand today.

Happy Riding.

Cheers,

Shr.

Shreyas82 · 03-03-2010, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMax46

from first service i want to use motul fully synthetic) I know couple of R15 who are all running on Motul and they said it does not affect the warranty bit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by satyenpoojary

Hey I think you got confused... he said Mineral not Synthetic

Hey,

I'm still confused as i'm seeing "fully synthetic" in his post

. Thats what happens if you boost too many cars or bikes

. No offense, just kidding.

Shr.

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Shreyas82 The 15th R Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 76	Third Service Report Got my third free service done yesterday at 5963 Km: 1) General service, checkup and cleaning. 2) Brakes checked and found to be good 3) Coolant topped and brake fluid checked. 4) Tappet adjustment not required, no sound or vibes so far. 5) Engine oil not changed as i had changed it at 4900 Km (I plan to start using the Yamalube semi-synth at the next change at ~ 6500 Km). 6) Clutch and chain lubricated, cleaned and adjusted. 7) Through cleaning of the rear alloy (had gotten dirty due to the chain spray falling on it.) 8) Front cone set checked. Will be picking up a temp stand today. Happy Riding. Cheers, Shr.

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