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moeed · 08-03-2009, 05:15 PM

Nice review there chicane!

Grafix · 08-03-2009, 05:33 PM

@chicane1879 : Nice Review man!!!

@Ace

ics are fine but yellow isnt cool anymore after seeing white

RedApple · 08-04-2009, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hyperion

Thanks for the in-depth review.

But based on my personal experience I beg to differ there. The R15 that I rode was only slightly better than my RTR at higher revs (> 7K).
But then it could be only specific to that bike. It was a friend's bike not out of the showroom.

i rode the R15 as well...and it just falls flat at exactly the place you need power; City traffic,

. I still adore the bike though. But im just so used to the power delivery of my RTR160 that i found it hard to adjust to the R15. I didnt go much above 6-7k but im sure it will shine in the higher revs.

Bubbly · 08-04-2009, 09:05 AM

The new white A180 is indeed awesome

... No doubts about it

A Small info:
Traffic police here in chennai has got A150 white version

Sarvajit · 08-04-2009, 09:42 AM

Nice unbiased review there Chicane. I also felt the same about the handlebars when I rode the bike, but my other friends were telling me it was in my mind!
I also felt the 180 is a bit more front-heavy compared to the 160. Do you feel the same way?

rennycornelius · 08-04-2009, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarvajit

I also felt the 180 is a bit more front-heavy compared to the 160. Do you feel the same way?

not at all.....
they both are just the same...

chicane1879 · 08-04-2009, 08:07 PM

Thanks, guys!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by rennycornelius

this is waht i noticed....
you noticed this too????????????????

Well as i told earlier, the 180 is less flickable than the 160s.In fact, in a corner(in the video in my siggy) where i usually try to rip leaning to the max, the 160 reluctantly falls better into the angle desired but even if the 180 feels slower in response to your reflex it makes up for the stability while cornering. It will carry more corner speeds, thats for sure!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarvajit

Nice unbiased review there Chicane. I also felt the same about the handlebars when I rode the bike, but my other friends were telling me it was in my mind!
I also felt the 180 is a bit more front-heavy compared to the 160. Do you feel the same way?

Thanks, dude and yeah handlebar vibs are very much there. And no the 180 doesnt feel front heavy, may be the wider handlebars would mean stretching and some amount of unnoticed pressure on the shoulders would have made you feel it being heavy...Damn, that was so scientific!! :P

Samarth 619 · 08-04-2009, 09:04 PM

@ chicane: Bro, nice review and very informative. However, I have some queries:

1. You say vibrations start at 4000 rpm. That's right! But, are you sure they are in the entire rev range? The test unit I tested had them from 4000-7000 only...? I took it upto 8000 rpm or so, AFAI remember.

2. I really fail to understand one thing - When Top Speed is not increased by much, Why did TVS Engineers increase wheelbase by such a big figure, 40 mm?
This is totally uncalled for. Stability might improve, but the flickability, cornering and stunts are worse compared to 160.
Not that its bad, its still live-able with. But, not really a necessary step. Wouldn't just a 10-20mm increase be fine?

hariraman · 08-04-2009, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chicane1879

Thanks, dude and yeah handlebar vibs are very much there. And no the 180 doesnt feel front heavy, may be the wider handlebars would mean stretching and some amount of unnoticed pressure on the shoulders would have made you feel it being heavy...Damn, that was so scientific!! :P

Is there a difference between the handle bars of 160 rtr fi and rtr 180?
I am using an FI and as i am a short guy,i need to lean too much. In long trips its causing terrible back aches.

If 180 has longer bars, then i may try the same in my bike too...

johnjojo08 · 08-04-2009, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samarth 619

@ chicane: Bro, nice review and very informative. However, I have some queries:

1. You say vibrations start at 4000 rpm. That's right! But, are you sure they are in the entire rev range? The test unit I tested had them from 4000-7000 only...? I took it upto 8000 rpm or so, AFAI remember.

2. I really fail to understand one thing - When Top Speed is not increased by much, Why did TVS Engineers increase wheelbase by such a big figure, 40 mm?
This is totally uncalled for. Stability might improve, but the flickability, cornering and stunts are worse compared to 160.
Not that its bad, its still live-able with. But, not really a necessary step. Wouldn't just a 10-20mm increase be fine?

The actual wheelbase increase is 26mm and not 40mm.. from 1300 mm of RTR 160 to 1326mm of RTR 180. It is just 1mm longer than CBZ Xtreme(1325mm).

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Samarth 619 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Rajasthan Posts: 2,801	@ chicane: Bro, nice review and very informative. However, I have some queries: 1. You say vibrations start at 4000 rpm. That's right! But, are you sure they are in the entire rev range? The test unit I tested had them from 4000-7000 only...? I took it upto 8000 rpm or so, AFAI remember. 2. I really fail to understand one thing - When Top Speed is not increased by much, Why did TVS Engineers increase wheelbase by such a big figure, 40 mm? This is totally uncalled for. Stability might improve, but the flickability, cornering and stunts are worse compared to 160. Not that its bad, its still live-able with. But, not really a necessary step. Wouldn't just a 10-20mm increase be fine?

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