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  • #76
    Originally posted by chilled_fire View Post
    Its a RUMOUR !
    Is it? I just read about it on the websites of the news channels..
    :)

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    • #77
      I've heard the news channels have been making quite a bit of news of their own throughout this whole incident.
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      • #78
        Originally posted by powerslave View Post
        I've heard the news channels have been making quite a bit of news of their own throughout this whole incident.
        Our news channels are helping the terrorist.. lame people have made news so commercialized
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        • #79
          Originally posted by mithun.08 View Post
          Our news channels are helping the terrorist.. lame people have made news so commercialized
          True.
          The cops cut the Television connections to the hotels before starting the operation in either of the three places.
          A wise thing to do as the news channels keep showing all the activity live, and hence would've kept the terrorists aware of all the cops, NSG commando whereabouts...
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          • #80
            I am talking about the PIGS such as those who need Z catgeory security to visit this city when they could do all that crap from Delhi itself.

            Rants are unimportant huh ?

            So the media is also unimportant I guess - why let them voice their opinions.

            People like you who keep quiet are the worst - take a stand or not interfere with others actions/ voices.


            Why is paying TAXES less important ??? - how many pay taxes at source and how many have illicit income - and the politicians are best at scams and scandals making money at it - no TAXES paid.


            NO ONE IN THEIR SANE MIND joins politics because Politics in this country is the exclusive domain of criminals and the criminally minded.

            More RANTS soon/ later



            Originally posted by hitanshu View Post
            2write: Israel has compulsory military service. US has spent close to 600 billion USD.

            Either you donate a proportionate share, enroll yourself, or kindly stop pointing the finger. We all think someone else must clean up the mess but neither do we have themoney to fund a huge operation, neither will we (most of us here) go join the army. We are only capable of rant posts and blame the whole world.

            Its better to be quiet than just add to the din, no? especially when rant posts achieve close to zilch.

            PS: My utmost respect to police and the various commandos and their courage, but honestly, I can never be in their shoes. But that said, I will not belittle whatever RAW/IB/etc agencies do, especially the best national service by most of us is just paying taxes.
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            • #81
              Blah blah blah. Its still the same mindset. As if the politicians are monopolising the police forces blah blah.

              Its always the same shit which someone else needs to come and clean up for us while we howl like babies.

              PS:Ranting on forums and keeping gtalk statuses is like being jedi warriors in one's dreams - helps nothing. Either you organize a community self defense/contingency plan/volunteer for civil defence/army/police or just fart in thin air. The latter helps one's ego, let's go of discomfort but does nothing to improve things. Better not to point fingers at everyone and just quietly get on with one's lives.
              PPS: I notice something lovely about BOTH your rant posts - "everyone else has some responsibility - my responsibility is just to point fingers and whine. endlessly." Atleast I'm at a massive loss to understand how everyone doing similar rants could help the country.
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              • #82
                @hitanshu: Under stand what you say but every one cant join defence forces or organize communities to make things betters.. that's the reason we elect people and let them take correct decision to organize things properly.. For example, how many join the poilce force to serve the country,
                Its the leaders responsbilites to organize things, when they do good all praise else bash them its human nature
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                • #83
                  Originally posted by hitanshu View Post
                  Blah blah blah. Its still the same mindset. As if the politicians are monopolising the police forces blah blah.

                  Its always the same shit which someone else needs to come and clean up for us while we howl like babies.

                  PS:Ranting on forums and keeping gtalk statuses is like being jedi warriors in one's dreams - helps nothing. Either you organize a community self defense/contingency plan/volunteer for civil defence/army/police or just fart in thin air. The latter helps one's ego, let's go of discomfort but does nothing to improve things. Better not to point fingers at everyone and just quietly get on with one's lives.
                  PPS: I notice something lovely about BOTH your rant posts - "everyone else has some responsibility - my responsibility is just to point fingers and whine. endlessly." Atleast I'm at a massive loss to understand how everyone doing similar rants could help the country.
                  It feels bad to see countrymen dying like this. But, are we prepared to raise objection?

                  Ok, seriously thinking about the former option. Can we really create a change? Yes, we can!

                  For instance, Most of us vote for Congress or BJP ..ok? Will you ever vote for a "Nirdaliya", the minority parties? Both of these major parties have been given chances, will we give the minors a chance?

                  Maybe we won't! But then, we can't change things much. Change requires pain & sacrifice. It's not for free! ...
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                  • #84
                    hey today I got a mail about section 49-0, I feel this can be a very good weapon

                    ---->
                    Did you know that there is a system in our constitution, as per the
                    1969 act, in section ' 49-O ' that a person can go to the polling
                    booth,
                    confirm his identity, get his finger marked, and convey the presiding
                    election officer that he / she doesn't want to vote anyone !
                    Yes, such a feature is available, but obviously these seemingly
                    notorious leaders have never disclosed it. This is called ' 49-O '..
                    Why should you go and say 'I VOTE NOBODY ' ? ... Because, in a ward, if
                    a candidate wins, say by 123 votes, and that particular ward has
                    received ' 49-O' votes more than 123 , then that polling will be
                    cancelled
                    and will have to be re-polled. Not only that, but the candidature of
                    the
                    contestants will be removed and they cannot contest the re-polling,
                    since people had already expressed their decision on them.
                    This would bring fear into parties and hence look for genuine
                    candidates for their parties for election. This would change the way,
                    of our
                    whole political system... it is seemingly surprising why the election
                    commission has not revealed such a feature to the public.... Please
                    spread
                    this news to as many as you know... Seems to be a wonderful weapon
                    against corrupt parties in India ... show your power, expressing your
                    desire
                    not to vote for anybody, is even more powerful than voting... so don't
                    miss your chance.
                    So either vote, or vote not to vote (vote '49-O ') and pass on this
                    info...
                    -----
                    For more info 49-O - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                    You Make Your Choices, And You Don't Look Back

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                    • #85
                      congress is not goin to win this election. THey have fcuked it up big time!!
                      I have a hunch, during the whole year watever incidents happened are a part of a political gambit.All politicians are the same.
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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by hitanshu View Post
                        Blah blah blah. Its still the same mindset. As if the politicians are monopolising the police forces blah blah.

                        Its always the same shit which someone else needs to come and clean up for us while we howl like babies.

                        PS:Ranting on forums and keeping gtalk statuses is like being jedi warriors in one's dreams - helps nothing. Either you organize a community self defense/contingency plan/volunteer for civil defence/army/police or just fart in thin air. The latter helps one's ego, let's go of discomfort but does nothing to improve things. Better not to point fingers at everyone and just quietly get on with one's lives.
                        PPS: I notice something lovely about BOTH your rant posts - "everyone else has some responsibility - my responsibility is just to point fingers and whine. endlessly." Atleast I'm at a massive loss to understand how everyone doing similar rants could help the country.
                        I dont mind your stance, it is your choice. In a way acceptable, for an avg civilian of the state there perhaps is no way of know (no data/facts) if the intelligence/defence/police did an effective job or not. but that is about it.

                        That should not stop someone from debating on it. Because without a debate or without a questioning voice, the accountability will slowly degrade. If there actually was a lapse or failure and if aam junta sits quite what is the use. Yes Gmail statuses blog mean effectively nothing on their own but collectively show a sense of unrest or interest to know why this has happened. sitting clam while doing nothing is in no way better than those who rant and do nothing. effectively your contribution is still zilch

                        That said, questions should give enough room for the fact that it is the game of the terrorists that they chalk new plans to beat the intelligence. It is not always that the intelligence is capable of being able to bust them. There may have been success stories that did not show up for security reasons. The knowledge about their efficiency is merely a perception of what media has given to you. one has to keep in mind that the media can indeed present grossly skewed data in a hurry to be the first.

                        Bottomline: we need a debate not a blame game. one has to be cautious while choosing the words.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by torque_ankur View Post
                          hey today I got a mail about section 49-0, I feel this can be a very good weapon

                          ---->
                          Did you know that there is a system in our constitution, as per the
                          1969 act, in section ' 49-O ' that a person can go to the polling
                          booth,
                          confirm his identity, get his finger marked, and convey the presiding
                          election officer that he / she doesn't want to vote anyone !
                          Yes, such a feature is available, but obviously these seemingly
                          notorious leaders have never disclosed it. This is called ' 49-O '..
                          Why should you go and say 'I VOTE NOBODY ' ? ... Because, in a ward, if
                          a candidate wins, say by 123 votes, and that particular ward has
                          received ' 49-O' votes more than 123 , then that polling will be
                          cancelled
                          and will have to be re-polled. Not only that, but the candidature of
                          the
                          contestants will be removed and they cannot contest the re-polling,
                          since people had already expressed their decision on them.
                          This would bring fear into parties and hence look for genuine
                          candidates for their parties for election. This would change the way,
                          of our
                          whole political system... it is seemingly surprising why the election
                          commission has not revealed such a feature to the public.... Please
                          spread
                          this news to as many as you know... Seems to be a wonderful weapon
                          against corrupt parties in India ... show your power, expressing your
                          desire
                          not to vote for anybody, is even more powerful than voting... so don't
                          miss your chance.
                          So either vote, or vote not to vote (vote '49-O ') and pass on this
                          info...
                          -----
                          For more info 49-O - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                          Outstanding post. Many People don't know this. People would use this, if they got to know about it. Spread the message. I am copy pasting this to office mail, and sending to all. Great post, torque_ankur.
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                          • #88
                            Rockrider, Fully agree. Problem is most people (and the original post in particular) cross the thin line between debate and blame game.

                            @Ankur - nice. didnt know that it could cause repolling too
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                            • #89
                              Thanks pranay, hitanshu I myself dint knew about this, got this info through mail.
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                              • #90
                                guess it's finally over.

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                                They are all missing on what life is about
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                                Don't end up like others the same song and dance

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