U got it wrong buddy............

Duke 200 and Pulsar 200NS are very different bikes, infact two different bikes.

1.Weight factor - 200NS weighs more than Duke- this definitely affects both power delivery and mileage.

2.Engine head configuration - 200NS is SOHC and Duke is DOHC- again a difference in power delivery and mileage.

3.Fueling - 200NS is carbureted and Duke 200 is Fuel Injected - again a difference in instant power delivery and mileage.

4.Ignition - 200NS is triple sparked and Duke 200 is single sparker - difference in torque,power delivery and mileage also gets affected by varying degrees of ignition.


So if so many things affects the difference of the two vehicles- it is evident, that they are completely different.............yes after all these they are two different bikes from two different manufacturers, albeit in the same 200cc segment.

I may go as far to say, that the line of difference between the Pulsar 200 and the Duke 200 is as much as the GS150R and the R15............ask me why ?

It is because even the GS150R and the R15 sports the same gear ratios and dito similar bore\stroke configuration of the engine.........but thats where it all ends.

R15 has Di-Asil, high lift cam 4valve engine with liquid cooling, GS150R has Aluminium coated engine internals and basic cam profile 2 valves and an air-cooled unit.
R15 weighs around 136 kgs and GS150R weighs 150 kgs,
R15 is fuel injected and GS150R is a carbureted.

Result :
R15 is a 150cc sportsbike and GS150R is a 150cc power commuter........two very different bikes in the end despite the similar bore\stroke from two different manufacturers- Yamaha and Suzuki.

Hence I like the fact that Duke 200 is entirely different from the Pulsar 200 NS..........nothing similar except the engine Cubic Capacity- not even the gear ratios.

What makes Pulsar 200 NS different from the former Pulsar 200 DTSi, is the new 4valve engine and the triple spark technology and a possible bigger carburetor along with monoshock suspension.

Well, I am not dis-agreeing with you. And its for sure that Duke and NS are completely different bike.
But taking ur facts between R15 and GS150R, then Duke should give lower Mileage than NS.

It is not that easy to decide.........

Agreed that GS150R provides more mileage than the R15 despite being heavier and carbureted, but it is also a fact that GS150R has a slow basic 2valve cam profile in comparison to the light weight high-lift hyperactive 4valve cam profile of the R15.

So, if u open the throttle on the R15- u will get 0-100 faster and a lower mileage figure,(thanks to the quick work of intaking and exiting fuel and gas respectively) than the stock GS150R.

But this also is not similar for the Duke and the P200NS - since both machines has the 4valve tech,the parameter is narrowed down to who has got a better fueling and ignition to enhance the engine volumetric efficiency.

1.As far as I know Fuel Injection plays better than the Carburetor, on a 4 valve engine.
2.When both bikes have quick engines- it boils down to, who is lighter of the two along with a host of other sensors and this and that in comparison to the varying degrees of ignition by the triple spark.

So,it all depends on the rider how he rides............but the Duke 200 has more potential for a better mileage in the end due to stringent technology levels.

Duke isn't exactly tuned to it's limits in it's current state in India and obviously that has been done so that it gives better FE. One can easily dabble with ECU and make it produce 28 bhp and make it rev till 11.8k rpm. But with Pulsar that's not the case. It's using Carburettor, already revving till 11.8k rpm, so in a way Pulsar is stretched to it's limits. They have got the maximum possible power from that 200cc mill using carburettor. So, it's but natural that Duke has the edge as far as FE is concerned, not to mention it's almost 20kg lighter when compared to P200NS. Of course, riding style matters, but IMO, if things are equal, Duke will always return better mileage.

the compression ratio of Indian spec duke is lesser than export spec duke mainly cuz of fuel quality here .. there are a lot of ecu remaps available for duke currently .. i need to gather more real world info regarding them ..

I'm not too sure on fuel quality bit, if you compare CBR/Ninja got lesser compression ratios than Duke. Besides, with the current standards we get 91 RON almost everywhere.

just one correction... Ns rev-limiter is at 10800 rpm...



BTW someone mentioned 98kmpl on duke...WTF! I mean how...? How was he riding...? I need a duke

Thanks for the correction, that was a typo

the export spec duke is tuned for 95octane petrol so has a higher compression ratio..Indian spec duke is tuned for 91octane petrol and hence has lesser compression ratio .. read it in ktm official website.... the export spect duke gets 300mm front disc with two piston caliper , whereas we get 280mm with 4 piston caliper..

You got me wrong buddy. I wasn't being sarcastic. MY NS before the at 730Kms (without service) returning just 38, even without ripping. I would really like to do a review plus shoot, if the Duke can really deliver that kind of mileage!

On Saturday, I was around NICE road, was on my way to Kanakpura, though didn't ride on NICE. After the First Svc, I'm going the engine to its limits on NICE, let's see.

i am pretty much sure that both duke and ns can extract 55-60kmpl when constantly ridden at around 70-80kmph .. keep it at 75kmph ideally...
wind direction, deceleration , acceleration , wieght loss , climatic condition , rider weight , crouched riding position also contribute to FE in a big way ..
overdrive recently made a comparo of duke vs ns in their mag and the FE figs of both bikes reported by them are very similar .. have a look at the pic below

I am now getting too tempted to go for the duke... but i have to wait for 6 months then to save the rest...

duke is more than 7secs quicker than ns in 0-120 .. that means , ns not even seen in duke's rvm

The comparison in the Picture states the Duke's top speed is 130kmph..however, it's 136kmph by when the Rev-Limiter will kick in at 11500 RPM..

7 secs is too much.....is it correct..?? source..??