There is no heat all and i am saying this coz i was wearing a half pant during the test ride... And i still wont say about cornering coz didn't get to try it, since road was potholed... But straightline stability is definitely better in 220...be in at 20kph or 60 kph...didn't go beyond that... As MG had also said, the 220 is a better off roader..., now i got that proove... Not only offroading, but also on broken city roads... The flickablility of ns and stability of 220 will be a deadly combo btw scappipng footrests on pulsars is child play.. pulsars especially the 220 and 180ug4 are very very easy to lean and corner but once you lean the bike starts shaking... Upto 60 its okay on a 220 after which cornering is scary, chasis becomes a see-saw and the front and rear wheels tries to go in different ways, handle feels totaly disconnected... But that does not make cornering impossible... Even i corner with my friend's 220 at high speed at chingrighata flyover and just before the starting of lake gardens flyover with continuously scrapping the main stand. Cornering and scrapping on a 220 is very much possible on a 220..but its more like the control of the rider than the own control of the bike... But hit a straightline and it goes like its on rails... My earlier tvs flame had a wonderful chasis...dont know what chasis it had but its an awesum handler... Straight line stability was not there but its the cornering ability...OMG! I could lean on insane angles with absoluty no fear...not to mention i had michelin tyres which aided the handling... The steering was so razor sharp and accurate with wonderful brakes...i had drums on both ends... Wonderful feedback from the chasis...and very forgiving... How did tvs manage to tune the chasis? its like a point and shoot bike...goes exactly where you want it to go... And the low end torque was insane with wheelspins... man i miss that bike...

Your mention of lack of power puts a grin on my face. That's the beauty of NS. Trust me those surge of power on 220 is just psychological. Though you feel the kick on 220, you can't sustain it for long. Try riding 220 and 200NS side be side, redlining both the bikes for say 5Kms non stop, you will feel the difference!

And I also have gut feeling, that because of the high saddle position, you guys feel the 220 to be more fun and a better handler, it's not the case once you get used to the commuterish yet sporty riding style of 200NS. I recently tried to take on a corner on my friends 220 (just 5 months old), on the same road as I did my NS, and hell I got scared mid corner at 70Kmph or so. A mid corner correction and braking me scared even more. The next moment I was back to NS, where i'm now most comfortable. Strange for the fact I rode a 220 for 3 years, and 35000Kms! And yeah, the 220s have got the MRF ZAPPER soft compound tires. I think it's just matter of putting some soft rubber to see the real potential of then P200NS.

its true its more about getting accustomed to the bike i guess.... Today i am complaining a bit but i know, when i get used to the bike then it will be me who would love the bike... After 2 months i will contradict myself for sure but that power thingy part...everyone said its linear and doesn't have a punch... But i found it a bit too linear for my liking... but i will surely get used to the bike i just loved the rev friendly nature, smoothness, gearbox and the throttle reaction...pure bliss...
Anyways do yo intend to do any mod to the engine kill switch? Coz it shuts off everything...i would love to have a kill switch which switches off the engine only... And would also like the pilot lamps to light up without starting the engine... And does this bike have that stupid BCU thing? Its a real pain to bypass it and local electricians dont like to mess with it

i decided to test ride ns the hard way and i really gave it some stick .. the sales rep was shit scared and grabbed my shoulders tightly .. while cornering i felt that p220 runs wider than ns .. also after my ride i noticed smell of burn engine and my friend showed me fumes coming from the engine .. the engine was so hot that it was felt from around 10feet away and the engine was idling at 2500rpm after my ride ( i guess it was scared too)..i test the machine at all revs so i redlined ns quite a few times during test ride ...the speedo was disconnected so i didnt get to see the speeds i was riding it at ,, but it was scary speeds for sure .. i noticed and reported vibrations just cuz i rode it at high rpms .. you guys should also test the bike at all rev ranges once ... you will know what i am talking about ...there is need to go emotional saying "poor new ns " .. i test all the machines that way cuz its my money in the end and i want to know everything about the machine before buying .. tested cbr250 , r15 , duke , ns , p220 the same way before buying duke ..

snatchy feeling is below 2000rpm..
this is the most exciting bike in city currently available within 3lakhs range .. i find it more exciting than ninja 250 in city ...

sadly yamaha will only come up with a global 250cc only during late 2013 .. they are currently working on 3 scooters .. one scooter ( ray ) this diwali and other two to follow ..
anything lesser than duke after owning fz would have been a disaster for me ..
yamaha takes a lot of time to develop a flagship but it turns out to be the best and flawless .. quality, precision and perfection is the main aim of yamaha ..

ride it to its limits during test ride guys ..

i hated p220 for its weight and suspensions ..

i tested ns the hard way... thumbed the starter, first gear and zip zap zoom... The showroom guy was shouting in fear... Shifted 1-2nd gear at 10k and 2nd to 3rd at 9k, then slowed down, braked hard and the rear skidded... Rear brake is awesum...and good lever feedback...front brake is powerful but lacks feedback...and over potholes ht becomes slightly unsettled... This bike really needs better tires... I didn't feel even the slightest of heat and mind it i was wearing a very short half pant so my legs were totally exposed... Vibration was minimal...just a high frequency tingling on the frame... Rpm never rose to 2.5 even after repeted thrashing by me and two other friends... Maybe your test ride bike had a problem...
Its true, yamaha reacts late but it does it does with a bang... Even if they plonk in a 250cc mill in current r15 it will blow away the competition...
Yamaha= handling
Honda= engine
Bajaj= a mix of everything the cheap way... the desi solution for desi requirement

even i think that the ns which i tested had improperly fitted plastic panels ..
yes r15 can easily do with a much bigger engine .. i would happily pay more than 2 lakhs for a 250cc yamaha ..

btw a friend of my brother got robbed by pbk kolkata for the first servicing of duke... They charged him 3500 for the service... Total rip-off... Now he is almost crying

My liking is exact opposite buddy...I just love faired bikes.
And my next upgrade will be Ninja 250 2013, unless Yam comes up with something in that segment...
Tell ur Bro's friend about the efficiency of solving a case after filing an FIR in BAjaj's C.Care.
Also ask for our commission for giving this precious advise

hahaha...already told him yesterday

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@toxicbiker and rahulbarik -- did you guys like the alloy wheels design of ns ?

not at all liked the alloys of ns... It looks like some kind of a flower...looks girlie...same goes for the handle... Wana exchange your duke alloys with my ns?

i liked ns alloys when i saw them in pics ( seemed to look different and fresh ),, but hated its design after i saw it in flesh ..it doesnt go well with the muscular lines of the bike's body .. i like gloss paint on alloys but ns has matt finish i guess .. the only alloys i like are of fz , fazer , R15 v2.0 and duke ..i wouldnt exchange any part of duke ...
duke's alloys are lighter and wider ..
i would suggest you to keep the bike in complete stock condition for a minimum of 2000kms as there are chances that you will get used to the handle bar ..

Didn't wanted to post in this thread( i think there is a cold war going on here)
I am owner of blue NS since three days (yipee) and i can vouch for uts below written qualities :

it is as flickable as a 125 cc bike( my old yamaha gladiaor)

it is smooth but not that much in first 150 kms, so don't judge it by that.

seats are very comfortable( both of them)

vibrations have gone away( 130 on odo)

a headturner for sure

feels relaxed in 6th gear at 60( so should give good FE)

nope bro...the alloy stuff is not looking very macho in my opinion....

absolutely correct..