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  • Originally posted by Rahulbarik View Post
    horn mod is in my list also... Svc wont create issues if you buy the new horn from that svc only....
    Same here,I'll talk to the SVC guy about the 220's horn on my bike...also I'll research more about the K&n filters & its impact...if it turns out to be damaging the engine ,I'll perhaps put that money on a projector headlamp after the warranty period on the wiring is over...as far as the console's backlight is concerned , I would like it to be white or light bluish...

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    • finally NS is in Kolkata...went to the showroom seen it, first impression is good and tough feeling...but personally would say Duke is way better in feel....
      Basically I am a biker who goes with the feel rather than base arguments or some paper stuff...
      So here goes my views
      1. Looks fine and more muscular and big in flesh (though kinda total copy of CB1000R)
      2. seat height is decent
      3. riding position is like other pulsars
      4. front felt real heavy, would not be as nimble as the other rivals, duke scores 100 out here...NS wouldn't get a chance in this department with such a weight and heavy front
      5. finish is good but somehow didn't liked that sticker job, this what Bajaj kept the costs low...not even a good quality paint in the tank flanks only stickers (!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
      6. can keep my feet comfortably down, may be am tall enough for that.
      7. rear to me looked worse for the bike, Bajaj could have done better there, just a copy of 135......which didn't impressed me
      8. number plate(front) holder is again an issue, how come it is placed like that looking at the sky....

      Can't comment on the engine and other stuff becoz no test drives available yet....will update soon as we get the test ride..
      btw me and Shibadip both went.....
      and honestly saying this is the best Pulsar till date from Bajaj stable..
      but if you ask me I would still say....
      Its time for Orange....
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      • Originally posted by Toxicbiker View Post
        finally NS is in Kolkata...went to the showroom seen it, first impression is good and tough feeling...but personally would say Duke is way better in feel....
        Basically I am a biker who goes with the feel rather than base arguments or some paper stuff...
        So here goes my views
        1. Looks fine and more muscular and big in flesh (though kinda total copy of CB1000R)
        2. seat height is decent
        3. riding position is like other pulsars
        Which one(s) I ponder?

        Originally posted by Toxicbiker View Post
        4. front felt real heavy, would not be as nimble as the other rivals, duke scores 100 out here...NS wouldn't get a chance in this department with such a weight and heavy front
        Judging a book by its cover (or may I say the feel at stationary). Take a ride on the NS first. You will be surprised and will wonder where those weight has melt away.



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        • Originally posted by payeng View Post
          Which one(s) I ponder?
          Though entirely my personal feeling...it felt like 180, the new version


          [/QUOTE]Judging a book by its cover (or may I say the feel at stationary). Take a ride on the NS first. You will be surprised and will wonder where those weight has melt away.



          [/QUOTE]

          Thats what I am waiting for....but as per my riding experience goes and physics says...it should show its weight on the curves...but anyway lets see....
          can't wait for TD.......and detailed report can be given by us after my friend gets his hand on his Babe..
          Last edited by Toxicbiker; 08-15-2012, 02:17 AM. Reason: quoting was not done properly
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          • Originally posted by Toxicbiker View Post
            Though entirely my personal feeling...it felt like 180, the new version
            Nope not even close. The P180 (latest one) doesn't have equally rear set footpegs as the 200NS. Also one needs to lean more on the P180 while on the P200NS the posture is relatively upright. The riding position on the P200NS is unique when compared to the older Pulsars.

            Originally posted by Toxicbiker View Post
            Thats what I am waiting for....but as per my riding experience goes and physics says...it should show its weight on the curves...but anyway lets see..
            Many including me have taken ride of the 200NS and also the 200 Duke. The 200NS does initially feel slightly heavy when pushed around. But once on the saddle, the weight seems perfectly balanced.. and be ready to be amazed at the nimble handling when it starts rolling on the road.


            Last edited by payeng; 08-15-2012, 02:49 AM.

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            • Originally posted by payeng View Post
              Nope not even close. The P180 (latest one) doesn't have equally rear set footpegs as the 200NS. Also one needs to lean more on the P180 while on the P200NS the posture is relatively upright. The riding position on the P200NS is unique when compared to the older Pulsars.



              Many including me have taken ride of the 200NS and also the 200 Duke. The 200NS does initially feel slightly heavy when pushed around. But once on the saddle, the weight seems perfectly balanced.. and be ready to be amazed at the nimble handling when it starts rolling on the road.

              i liked the riding position of ns but it would have been better if the rider foot pegs very pushed further back .. i didnt like the clip-ons .. they look deep and out of place .. street fighters must have single piece wide handle bar ..
              rider seat should have been less wide .. it pulls up the pants whenever we place our feet on the ground ..
              and come on ,, it is not as nimble as the rtr , fz or duke .. it definitely shows its weight..wider handle would have made steering it easier..it is just nimble compared to other pulsars .. p220 only wants to go straight and will run wide and feel like taming a dog while cornering ,, so naturally ns will be more than satisfying for people who have been riding 220 ..
              Last edited by Rohan200ns; 08-15-2012, 10:34 AM.

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              • Originally posted by Rohan200ns View Post
                i liked the riding position of ns but it would have been better if the rider foot pegs very pushed further back .. i didnt like the clip-ons .. they look deep and out of place .. street fighters must have single piece wide handle bar ..
                Completely agree with you on this Point..
                When I sat on the Bike, the Hand's position kind of felt commuter-ish, because of the raised up handle-bars. However, the foot-pegs are placed in quite an Aggressive position.
                Single wide handle bars wud have looked great.

                Buddy, every one went after the vibes issue which was mentioned by you, coz, you kinda exaggerated the point too much. As far as I remember, u vouched that the vibes were more than any RTR
                Although few other owners have mentioned about the vibes, those were never as huge as u portrayed..



                @all Yesterday gave me the opportunity to see the NS (my would be) for the first time. went with @ Toxic_biker. My First impression is soon to be followed.
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                • Originally posted by Rohan200ns View Post
                  i liked the riding position of ns but it would have been better if the rider foot pegs very pushed further back ..
                  Also why not make the rider sit even more upright with silghtly wider handle bars so that it becomes exactly like the 200Duke. How can one accept anything "Non Duke"

                  Originally posted by Rohan200ns View Post
                  i didnt like the clip-ons .. they look deep and out of place .. street fighters must have single piece wide handle bar ..
                  Says who..?? Is there a law/diktat which says so?

                  The BMW K13000R is as bad @$$ a street fighter you'll get, comes with "Triple Piece" alloy handle bars.

                  True Clips ons are actually two piece units that bolt on directly to the front forks. Time to wake up: All desi bikes with so called "Clip ons" are basically triple piece handlebars (inlcluing the R15, Ninja 250R, CBR250R etc.). Some set lower and some higher.

                  Originally posted by Rohan200ns View Post
                  rider seat should have been less wide .. it pulls up the pants whenever we place our feet on the ground ..
                  Pants.. Yeah right

                  More than the "pants", its difficult for guys with short legs to reach the ground without curving their legs. But there is no two opinion that the seats (both rider and pillion) are ultra comfortable.

                  Originally posted by Rohan200ns View Post
                  and come on ,, it is not as nimble as the rtr , fz or duke .. it definitely shows its weight..wider handle would have made steering it easier..it is just nimble compared to other pulsars .. p220 only wants to go straight and will run wide and feel like taming a dog while cornering ,, so naturally ns will be more than satisfying for people who have been riding 220 ..
                  You and your exaggeration (Dogs and what not..!!)

                  The 200 Duke actually has a slight tendency to "oversteer". The Pulsar 200NS is more neutral and stable and yes "flickable" (doesn't matter how you exaggerate) .



                  Last edited by payeng; 08-15-2012, 12:00 PM.

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                  • My 1st Impression on 200NS
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                    • Hahahaha same feeling about pants... i was unable to put my feet down with a tight jeans though i never had much problem in duke duke's front is feather light...duke is very good for some @$$ shaking belly dance moves even i felt the weight of the bike yesterday when i pulled it up from side stand... People may laugh but i find the karizma quite light inspite of it being 150kg... God knows why...but i find pulsars heavy...
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                      • Originally posted by payeng View Post
                        Also why not make the rider sit even more upright with silghtly wider handle bars so that it becomes exactly like the 200Duke. How can one accept anything "Non Duke"



                        Says who..?? Is there a law/diktat which says so?

                        The BMW K13000R is as bad @$$ a street fighter you'll get, comes with "Triple Piece" alloy handle bars.

                        True Clips ons are actually two piece units that bolt on directly to the front forks. Time to wake up: All desi bikes with so called "Clip ons" are basically triple piece handlebars (inlcluing the R15, Ninja 250R, CBR250R etc.). Some set lower and some higher.



                        Pants.. Yeah right

                        More than the "pants", its difficult for guys with short legs to reach the ground without curving their legs. But there is no two opinion that the seats (both rider and pillion) are ultra comfortable.



                        You and your exaggeration (Dogs and what not..!!)

                        The 200 Duke actually has a slight tendency to "oversteer". The Pulsar 200NS is more neutral and stable and yes "flickable" (doesn't matter how you exaggerate) .


                        Totally agree with you !!!
                        + 1 !!
                        Especially "" How can one accept anything "Non Duke" ""

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                        • Originally posted by payeng View Post
                          The Pulsar 200NS is more neutral and stable and yes "flickable".
                          Is this how you feel? Or is this how it is?
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                          • Originally posted by Shibadip View Post
                            Completely agree with you on this Point..
                            When I sat on the Bike, the Hand's position kind of felt commuter-ish, because of the raised up handle-bars. However, the foot-pegs are placed in quite an Aggressive position.
                            Single wide handle bars wud have looked great.

                            Buddy, every one went after the vibes issue which was mentioned by you, coz, you kinda exaggerated the point too much. As far as I remember, u vouched that the vibes were more than any RTR
                            Although few other owners have mentioned about the vibes, those were never as huge as u portrayed..



                            @all Yesterday gave me the opportunity to see the NS (my would be) for the first time. went with @ Toxic_biker. My First impression is soon to be followed.
                            the vibes which i reported was the same reported by another xbhpian when we took both our bikes for first service .. he was also bugged by it .. after the service it was much better in his ns as the plastic parts were given some sort of rubber padding or bolted on firmly ..
                            the test ride bike which i rode was more like a mobile massage parlour ..it was not exaggerated .. they had to properly check the bike before giving it for a test ride .. the test ride bike was taken out from the stock yard and directly given for test rides..it has single digit on its odo ..

                            Originally posted by payeng View Post
                            Also why not make the rider sit even more upright with silghtly wider handle bars so that it becomes exactly like the 200Duke. How can one accept anything "Non Duke"



                            Says who..?? Is there a law/diktat which says so?

                            The BMW K13000R is as bad @$$ a street fighter you'll get, comes with "Triple Piece" alloy handle bars.

                            True Clips ons are actually two piece units that bolt on directly to the front forks. Time to wake up: All desi bikes with so called "Clip ons" are basically triple piece handlebars (inlcluing the R15, Ninja 250R, CBR250R etc.). Some set lower and some higher.



                            Pants.. Yeah right

                            More than the "pants", its difficult for guys with short legs to reach the ground without curving their legs. But there is no two opinion that the seats (both rider and pillion) are ultra comfortable.



                            You and your exaggeration (Dogs and what not..!!)

                            The 200 Duke actually has a slight tendency to "oversteer". The Pulsar 200NS is more neutral and stable and yes "flickable" (doesn't matter how you exaggerate) .


                            how can you think of a bmw kind of handle on a mass market bajaj bike ..i told about having a single piece wide handle just cuz its cheap and best ..
                            i do accept that duke is having oversteering capability but that is what makes it more fun..people buy M3 , M1 and M5 just for their oversteering capabilities .. people prefer 2wheel drive ferraris over big 4wheel drive lambos just because they get better oversteer..
                            all superbikes can oversteer without traction control on ..
                            some of the non dukes which i like in india as a mass market bike - r15 , fz , unicorn
                            my examples seem exaggerated cuz i have grown up watching clarkson,hammond and may ....
                            Last edited by Rohan200ns; 08-15-2012, 03:06 PM.

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                            • Originally posted by payeng View Post
                              Nope not even close. The P180 (latest one) doesn't have equally rear set footpegs as the 200NS. Also one needs to lean more on the P180 while on the P200NS the posture is relatively upright. The riding position on the P200NS is unique when compared to the older Pulsars.



                              Many including me have taken ride of the 200NS and also the 200 Duke. The 200NS does initially feel slightly heavy when pushed around. But once on the saddle, the weight seems perfectly balanced.. and be ready to be amazed at the nimble handling when it starts rolling on the road.

                              Bro with no offence I haven't spoken about rear set footpegs..I talked about the rider footpegs only...and it was my complete own feeling....both 180 and NS seemed almost equal to me...may be I have got long legs and arms....
                              About riding can't comment now will see after I get a ride....
                              but one thing is sure this Pulsar is gonna rock.....will be nimbler than other and may be comfort level also...
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                              • Originally posted by Toxicbiker View Post
                                Bro with no offence I haven't spoken about rear set footpegs..I talked about the rider footpegs only...and it was my complete own feeling....both 180 and NS seemed almost equal to me...may be I have got long legs and arms....
                                About riding can't comment now will see after I get a ride....
                                but one thing is sure this Pulsar is gonna rock.....will be nimbler than other and may be comfort level also...
                                bhai you got it a bit wrong... Payeng said that the rider footpegs are more rearset than the 220/180(ug4) right payeng?
                                @payeng and rohan: i hate the handle not because its high but because it looks crap... A single piece like duke would have been better...
                                Last edited by Rahulbarik; 08-15-2012, 06:51 PM.
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