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**Type R** · 08-12-2012, 01:01 AM

Originally posted by Rohan200ns View Post

i am not the one claiming it .. people from OVERDRIVE have published it in their august issue mag .. just go through that mag as they have a big comparo between duke and ns ..it says that duke is almost 2secs quicker to 100 than ns ..also consider the fact that the speedo error on ns is massive ( it manages to display 149kmph on speedo as told in many reviews)
only thing i know is that duke gets to 100 even before i get to know that its fast ..

I am not sure where does the mag says duke is 7 sec faster than the ns in 0-120. i looked again in the mag and it says that its half a sec faster in 0-60, 1.8 sec in 0-100 and a sec quicker in the quarter mile.
Also this months autocar is having a comparo between both the bikes.

**Rohan200ns** · 08-12-2012, 01:35 AM

Originally posted by Type R View Post

I am not sure where does the mag says duke is 7 sec faster than the ns in 0-120. i looked again in the mag and it says that its half a sec faster in 0-60, 1.8 sec in 0-100 and a sec quicker in the quarter mile.
Also this months autocar is having a comparo between both the bikes.

check out the pic which i posted here .. they have the performance data of both ns and duke printed beside each other ..they have clearly mentioned duke 0-120 as 15secs and ns 0-120 as 22secs

**vrugonnab** · 08-12-2012, 01:48 AM

Originally posted by Rohan200ns View Post

check out the pic which i posted here .. they have the performance data of both ns and duke printed beside each other ..they have clearly mentioned duke 0-120 as 15secs and ns 0-120 as 22secs

Agreed, overdrive claims it, but the question here is do you seriously believe that's the case! coz.. the pic says P200NS takes 6.86 sec to reach 80kmph, then it says 8.86 secs to reach 90kmph, then 11.28 secs to reach 100kmph and then 110kmph takes 15 sec

I'm not too sure on the accuracy of these numbers, i'm not buying them. 90 to 100 takes almost 3 secs?? that's where the power band of these bikes comes into full play (if I'm right that will be about 6 to 7k rpm). So, basically these guys are saying after reaching 80kmph, P200NS looses steam. Perhaps, owners can confirm if that's the case. Sure, there will be lot of external factors affecting the performance like riders weight, wind blast etc.. but if the test is conducted in same environment, then these figures doesn't really sound credible.

**Type R** · 08-12-2012, 01:54 AM

Originally posted by Rohan200ns View Post

check out the pic which i posted here .. they have the performance data of both ns and duke printed beside each other ..they have clearly mentioned duke 0-120 as 15secs and ns 0-120 as 22secs

Which pic are you talking about. can you please post it as i myself am confused between ns and duke and a 7 sec difference cant be ignored

**Shibadip** · 08-12-2012, 03:54 AM

Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post

Agreed, overdrive claims it, but the question here is do you seriously believe that's the case! coz.. the pic says P200NS takes 6.86 sec to reach 80kmph, then it says 8.86 secs to reach 90kmph, then 11.28 secs to reach 100kmph and then 110kmph takes 15 sec

I'm not too sure on the accuracy of these numbers, i'm not buying them. 90 to 100 takes almost 3 secs?? that's where the power band of these bikes comes into full play (if I'm right that will be about 6 to 7k rpm). So, basically these guys are saying after reaching 80kmph, P200NS looses steam. Perhaps, owners can confirm if that's the case. Sure, there will be lot of external factors affecting the performance like riders weight, wind blast etc.. but if the test is conducted in same environment, then these figures doesn't really sound credible.

Very correctly pointed out.7Sec gap seems to be too much.
Lets wait for the AutoCar's Report..

**bprags** · 08-12-2012, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post

Agreed, overdrive claims it, but the question here is do you seriously believe that's the case! coz.. the pic says P200NS takes 6.86 sec to reach 80kmph, then it says 8.86 secs to reach 90kmph, then 11.28 secs to reach 100kmph and then 110kmph takes 15 sec

I'm not too sure on the accuracy of these numbers, i'm not buying them. 90 to 100 takes almost 3 secs?? that's where the power band of these bikes comes into full play (if I'm right that will be about 6 to 7k rpm). So, basically these guys are saying after reaching 80kmph, P200NS looses steam. Perhaps, owners can confirm if that's the case. Sure, there will be lot of external factors affecting the performance like riders weight, wind blast etc.. but if the test is conducted in same environment, then these figures doesn't really sound credible.

+100. The Overdrive report looks like BS. With almost similar power output to KTM, it is hard to believe the numbers put up by OD. I agree the NS weighs more but those numbers are in the R15 territory, which I find very hard to digest.

**Rohan200ns** · 08-12-2012, 10:19 AM

Originally posted by Type R View Post

Which pic are you talking about. can you please post it as i myself am confused between ns and duke and a 7 sec difference cant be ignored

just scroll back a couple of pages and check it out .. i am not using my comp now so i am not able to repost that pic ..

Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post

Agreed, overdrive claims it, but the question here is do you seriously believe that's the case! coz.. the pic says P200NS takes 6.86 sec to reach 80kmph, then it says 8.86 secs to reach 90kmph, then 11.28 secs to reach 100kmph and then 110kmph takes 15 sec

I'm not too sure on the accuracy of these numbers, i'm not buying them. 90 to 100 takes almost 3 secs?? that's where the power band of these bikes comes into full play (if I'm right that will be about 6 to 7k rpm). So, basically these guys are saying after reaching 80kmph, P200NS looses steam. Perhaps, owners can confirm if that's the case. Sure, there will be lot of external factors affecting the performance like riders weight, wind blast etc.. but if the test is conducted in same environment, then these figures doesn't really sound credible.

i dont know .. they all use a super accurate data logger while testing any vehicle ..do you really think that overdrive would project themselves as unreliable people by claiming unrealistic figures ? .. overdrive is close to being 15yrs old now ...

**ABikerAtHeart** · 08-12-2012, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by Rohan200ns View Post

just scroll back a couple of pages and check it out .. i am not using my comp now so i am not able to repost that pic ..

i dont know .. they all use a super accurate data logger while testing any vehicle ..do you really think that overdrive would project themselves as unreliable people by claiming unrealistic figures ? .. overdrive is close to being 15yrs old now ...

Not to forget OD is talking about realistic speed and not the speedo indicated.

But if this is the case then I wonder what the figures like for the One-Five.

**MACH50** · 08-12-2012, 01:57 PM

Performance comparison by Over Drive magazine.

Top registered is lower - 130kph for Duke and 124kph for Pulsar NS, Overdrive is known for printing low top end figures of any bike, so this is nothing new. But the difference is what matters here.......a whole 6kmph slower is the P200NS at the top end while the Duke has more speed, even we know that.........that Duke pulls in some 138kmph and the NS around 134kmph where there is only 4kmph difference.

The controversial 0-120kmph figure : 15.35 secs vs 22.76 secs of KTM Duke against Pulsar NS.......the Pulsar being a whole of around 7 secs slower to the 120kmph, which is quite interesting.Since most bikes of around 200cc gets slower after 100kmph............but the Duke seals it with almost 250cc like performance.

A new thing came to my head.............many people are claiming that the Duke 200's top end is not much.........but in comparison to what ?

The 138kmph is a true speed, which has been claimed by the company and most bike magazines out there and only the Honda CBR250 and Ninja 250R is faster.

**bprags** · 08-12-2012, 02:56 PM

Duke vs NS, Autocar review
Bajaj Pulsar 200NS Vs KTM 200 Duke | Feature | Autocar India

Please ignore if already posted

**Rohan200ns** · 08-12-2012, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by bprags View Post

Duke vs NS, Autocar review
Bajaj Pulsar 200NS Vs KTM 200 Duke | Feature | Autocar India

Please ignore if already posted

they have mentioned that duke accelerates quicker and is having a higher true top speed...this only translates to a massive speedo error in ns ...

**Rohan200ns** · 08-12-2012, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by MACH50 View Post

A new thing came to my head.............many people are claiming that the Duke 200's top end is not much.........but in comparison to what ?

The 138kmph is a true speed, which has been claimed by the company and most bike magazines out there and only the Honda CBR250 and Ninja 250R is faster.

most of the people like to have speedos which displays the numbers generously so bajaj have reacted positively by giving that in ns ..ktm has got the same 125duke's international console so you get minimal speedo error ( ktm claims true top speed of 136 and the speedo does 138 till the time rev limiter kicks in) ...
if bajaj had put up their speedo on duke then it would go all the way up to 160 and majority of the people would be happy seeing that ..
now it is fun to see ns being overtaken at its 150kmph speedo readout by a duke which is displaying 136kmph ...

**MACH50** · 08-12-2012, 03:26 PM

Originally posted by Rohan200ns View Post

now it is fun to see ns being overtaken at its 150kmph speedo readout by a duke which is displaying 136kmph ...

You are right, becoz, in my city...........some wanabe Duke owners agrees with their wannabe companions that the Duke is actually slower than the Pulsar 220 or the CBR150R !!!

Guess what, these Duke owners have never clocked that speed and they claim what ever they see on the speedo in the videos on Youtube- Pathetic !!!! Worse they make up stories de-rating their own bike- Tragic !!

At which end, I only replied, let me complete the break-in of my Duke 200 properly and verify it for myself.

Hence I have given up getting into any arguments which concerns speedo indicated top speeds.

Duke 200 is one of the fastest accelerating machines in the market, hell-even faster than the GT250R of the Hyosung and some diesel rockets like the Chevy Cruze or the Skoda Laura(I own this one though

).

Pulsar 200NS is definitely a fast bike when it comes to the R15,RTR180,ZMR or the CBR150R , slower to the Duke which is again at par with the CBR250R itself.

**MACH50** · 08-12-2012, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by Rohan200ns View Post

ktm has got the same 125duke's international console so you get minimal speedo error ( ktm claims true top speed of 136 and the speedo does 138 till the time rev limiter kicks in) ...

I used to dislike the KTM's digi console first, since I liked the digi-analogue rev combo found on the ZZR 1400 or on the GSXRs..............but I was completely blown away when I found that the Digi console on the KTM Duke 200/125 did not come from any of the bigger Dukes like the 690 or 990...........period.

Actually it came straight out from none other than the KTM RC8R superbike !!!!!

Verify it urself here,turn on some volume to enjoy during verification

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KTM RC8R Track onboard at Donington Park - YouTube

**J K** · 08-12-2012, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by MACH50 View Post

Actually it came straight out from none other than the KTM RC8R superbike !!!!!

Verify it urself here,turn on some volume to enjoy during verification

:

KTM RC8R Track onboard at Donington Park - YouTube

Woah.. that is new thing to me..!! Thanks for that.

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