WTH...! 7 secs faster...omg! How? When? Where? i need a duke you naughty boy you teasing me to go for the duke....? now i am seriously thinking what if i wait for 6 months, save enough money and get the duke btw i have not ridden ns so cant comment but duke goes exeptionally fast till 120, then slows down that too in a very accurate speedo...

Can someone tell me about these differences between P200NS and D200 ? I searched but did not find these differences stated anywhere.

1. The wheelbase is identical almost, while the seat looks much smaller on the Duke. Is the Duke also more cramped when someone is using it solo (WRT 6'+ guys) ? Or are they identical solo ??
2. What is the difference in cruising mileage @ 100 km/h on a highway ? Cruising meaning no ripping and steady speeds.
3. Which bike has a higher seat or is this identical as well ?
4. Duke website says RON95 petrol is needed. Is it true for Indian version as well ?

136 is on speedo .. they have mentioned the true top speed as 130.. it also includes the weight of rider .. normally the manufacturer tests the bike's performance with a 60kg rider..even a 70kg overdrive rider will slow up the bike slightly ..
OVERDRIVE mag .. august edition ..
that pic is from the latest edition of OVERDRIVE mag .. they have given a full comparo between duke and ns ..
if you wait for another six months then you will be tempted to go for duke350

--duke's seat height is more than ns .. 5mm more ..
--cruising mileage and overall mileage of both bikes are very similar but i feel duke returns better mileage in wider climatic conditions due to FI ..
--indian website is wrong .. duke has been tuned to run on RON91 for India ..i confirmed it from ktm india before buying ..

Height fine, and comfort level ? For single rider I mean.

And when you say very similar mileage, what is the deviation like between the two ?

About the bold part, something I gotta tell you. There IS no Indian website just a global website

In fact there is

KTM Ready to Race

Aah, I missed it. When was this site put up ?

--rider comfort on duke is good for city rides.. ns rider seat is clearly bigger than the one on duke . i liked the rider seat of duke more than ns cuz ns rider seat is very broad and uncomfortable while placing both your feet on the ground (pant gets pulled up ) ,, my butt started paining after 1hr of highway ride on duke ,, mainly cuz of hard seat ..it mainly depends on the weight of rider ..slim people will find duke to be more comfy and fat people will feel at home on ns ..
-- difference is 1 or 2 kmpl .. i feel duke will give better mileage when ridden hard ..

7 seconds?? Not possible. Forget NS, even P220 is not 7 seconds slower to 120KMPh.

Both Duke and NS do 100Kmph in 9.xx Seconds, Duke being faster here ofcourse, so from 100 NS takes 7 seconds more than Duke to reach the same speeds??

Even the Ninja 250 takes about 8.xx seconds to 100Kmph!

That should end the debate !!

i am not the one claiming it .. people from OVERDRIVE have published it in their august issue mag .. just go through that mag as they have a big comparo between duke and ns ..it says that duke is almost 2secs quicker to 100 than ns ..also consider the fact that the speedo error on ns is massive ( it manages to display 149kmph on speedo as told in many reviews)
only thing i know is that duke gets to 100 even before i get to know that its fast ..

Yeah, I know, as you said its in Overdrive. I will try to get a copy today. But even then, i can't believe it. Because I have personally compared the acceleration of Duke and NS side by side. And no doubt Duke is has a way better acceleration than the NS, but 7 seconds is too huge a margin for even a CBR 250 for that matter.

Can anybody of the 200NS testers from Xbhp shed some light on it?

Haven't ridden either the 200NS or the 200 Duke strapped with a data logging gear, therefore can't crunch the 0-60/100120 kph numbers.

The 200 Duke is overall a faster bike no doubt. But the overenthusiastic power/torque delivery (aggravated/amplified by the short gearing) appreciated by all is not something which appeals to everybiker. For example, I perfer the calm and mature way in which the 200NS rides more than the manic way in which the 200 Duke pulls everytime one twists the throttle. But then, hey its me.

To each his own.


Speedo Indicated Speeds:

Every bike sold in India has speedo error. The permissible limit is around 10%. So if the 200NS shows a speedo indicated figure of 149 that means the real figure would be around 135 kmph, which is around what Bajaj officially claims (136 kmph).

A speedo indicated 130-135 kmph can be seen on the P200NS with a little effort. But to see 149 kmph on the speedo of the 200NS one would need a long (around 2 kmph) straight with smooth surface, no gradients, absolutely no traffic and a rider (preferably around 60 kgs) with real guts (or maybe foolish enough) with his head pinned to the tank during the entire speed run. It's possible but then you will have to tempt fate to see that magical number (even if on the speedo).

i would say that duke is a more hardcore version of the 200cc bajaj-ktm powerplant ..
the diff between ns and duke is like porsche 911 and gt3 rs ..
the throttle response of duke is so sharp that i once powerslided while taking a turn (possible only while riding single obviously) ..since then i deliberately try to oversteer and powerslide it every now and then ..it is so much fun ..
overenthusiastic behaviour is in ktm's genes ...

Duke's powerplant and the way it delivers and develops power differs fully from Pulsar 200 NS, they are different powerplants again !!!

Just sharing the same base do not definitely makes two identical bikes or similar powerplant.

All Porsches have a similar flair and character about them except the Cayenne and the 918 RSR.Just some Porsches makes a better figure than the other.

Even so, the Duke's character is totally different from the NS..........they are different bikes, different brands..............not even close as a Lamborghini to an Audi R8 in that case !!!