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  • Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
    ^^ Lets put a 'period' here. I guess no need for another debate here which has been debated multiple times.

    Believe me I was just tinkering with his wordings....

    Now he must be searching all through BS Motoring...!
    2002 - Pulsar 150 Classic (Still owned)
    2005 - Pulsar 150 Dtsi (Still owned)
    2006 - Eterno (sold)
    2008 - Dio (Owned)
    2009 - Pulsar 220 DTSi

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    • Originally posted by Devilpulsarian View Post
      BS Motoring says 120 for ZMR....
      No one will believe it !!

      BS Motoring : .....I gave it the stick, the ZMR showed 115 kph on the speedo pretty quickly, with much more to come. Though we are still to test it, the ZMR feels slightly quicker than before, perhaps because of the improved throttle response......
      Last edited by vipin_s; 11-24-2009, 04:20 PM. Reason: edit

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      • Originally posted by vipin_s View Post
        No one will believe it !!

        You could have easily put an (*) sign after your statement

        * My quoted 10 publications only include publications who have written 126kmph only
        .....
        All those publications who have written anything else, must go to hell......



        See its this simple...
        2002 - Pulsar 150 Classic (Still owned)
        2005 - Pulsar 150 Dtsi (Still owned)
        2006 - Eterno (sold)
        2008 - Dio (Owned)
        2009 - Pulsar 220 DTSi

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        • I am damn sure ZMR will do 126 kmph as indicated. BS motoring might not have been able to test it properly.
          HH Karizma (Current) || CBF Stunner PGM-FI || Honda CB Unicorn Dazzler
          Honda Aviator || Kinetic Flyte || Kinetic Blaze || HH Splendor

          Two ZMAs, 9 Days in Western Ghats

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          • Originally posted by Udayakiran View Post
            And which city r u from?

            I like black too. I dont like too much attention, so i didnt like white as much as i like black. In my opinion, white is the most eye catching and it is my second choice after black.
            Im from cochin... kerala... Booked it frm Thrissur.. A nearby city..!!
            The Blue flags are flying high....sigpic....Proud to be a Trueblue..!!

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            • Originally posted by gautamsankar View Post
              Im from cochin... kerala... Booked it frm Thrissur.. A nearby city..!!
              When is the delivery
              From variable Bhps to a constant 17.6 Bhp.

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              • Originally posted by fast_ferocious View Post
                When is the delivery
                Quite Honestly... I dunno..
                Back in october wen i booked, they said it'll delivered in 2 months time..
                but now they re sayin, the first 4 bikes wil b delivered only aftr a month..december that is... Seems lyk HH hav askd all those showroom ppl to use ZMRs as their showpiece for a while... Till all the customers slowly run away frm them..
                Y cant they juz grow for GODs sake...

                Any prospective buyers who re waitin for a test drive before buying, should drop that idea.. Go test drive the ZMA... Both are almost similar... The bike means Quality... Not as powerful as the 220.. Just marginal difference...
                If u dont book it now, then u wont be gettin it atleast till 2011 it seems..
                The Blue flags are flying high....sigpic....Proud to be a Trueblue..!!

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                • By the way i wrote the same to the HH ppl... Via their ' Contact us' option in their website... asking them the same question why cant they just improve..?? As expected, they din reply...hehe..

                  As far as d colour goes... On a scale of 5-
                  White - 4.8/5
                  Black - 4.6/5
                  Red - 3.5/5
                  Blue - 3/5

                  Honestly i didn feel theres anythin so spectacular to rave about the red as someone else in this thread have been sayin...
                  Blue also din quite catch my imagination...
                  Haven Seen YELLOW Yet... but i can imagine that it ll be lookin great... as good as white maybe...But wont b as classy as white or black..
                  The Blue flags are flying high....sigpic....Proud to be a Trueblue..!!

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                  • Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                    Karizma is not very far from P220 in power; it is just that P220 has slight advantage on power. 0-60 in 4.5 sec and 0-100 in 13.8 sec are very much respectable.
                    yes! your right! a full 2 sec slower to 100 is very much respectable and lets not forget, we are getting 9 more kgs of plastic, that makes it even more respectable

                    Originally posted by vipin_s View Post
                    Plus top end of P220 is overrated and never ending debatable topic and varies b/w 125 to 148 kmph. ZMR has just one top end, 10 mags, 20 experts, 1000 owners will say that 126kmph !!
                    overdrive says is 125kmph. AFAIK, BI says its 126kmph. and i havent heard of anyone claiming 125 for p220 dts-i
                    Originally posted by vipin_s View Post
                    No one will believe it !!

                    .
                    did it include me?
                    Last edited by gauravbalu; 11-24-2009, 11:50 PM.
                    pulsar 220 dts-fi clocks 145kmph!
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8SPjGtkRWo

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                    • Originally posted by vipin_s View Post
                      Plus top end of P220 is overrated and never ending debatable topic and varies b/w 125 to 148 kmph. ZMR has just one top end, 10 mags, 20 experts, 1000 owners will say that 126kmph !!
                      Oh yeah! well put Vipin...I agree with you Gives me a reason to say that the ZMR ad is found quoting,' beyond the said and the done'
                      "Never recreate from your memory, always imagine new places"

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                      • Originally posted by Devilpulsarian View Post
                        You could have easily put an (*) sign after your statement

                        * My quoted 10 publications only include publications who have written 126kmph only
                        .....
                        All those publications who have written anything else, must go to hell......



                        See its this simple...
                        DP: you pulsar guys just need a chance to pounce upon us Honda people na..I have been watching you ever since the zmr came along.. you havent changed much. The karizma vs pulsar battle will go on for ages to come...And its pointless talking to some.:P
                        "Never recreate from your memory, always imagine new places"

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                        • Originally posted by gauravbalu View Post
                          whats long life without power?
                          I think you should settle for a 1000cc then...Enough power to last your entire generation and your generations to come...:P:P:P
                          "Never recreate from your memory, always imagine new places"

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                          • Originally posted by gauravbalu View Post
                            yes! your right! a full 2 sec slower to 100 is very much respectable and lets not forget, we are getting 9 more kgs of plastic, that makes it even more respectable


                            overdrive says is 125kmph. AFAIK, BI says its 126kmph. and i havent heard of anyone claiming 125 for p220 dts-i

                            did it include me?
                            Full 2 seconds slower..??? Ha... New Info...
                            The 220 Does 0-100 in 13.1 sec whereas ZMR does it in 13.8 secs... according to the bike india magazine... Bike india Is an exclusive Bike magazine which has got the most reliable numbers in d country...
                            and we dun mind sacrificing .7 secs for much better quality...

                            And ZMRs top whack is 126 kmph and that of P220 is 132.5
                            Again a 6.5 kmph top speed difference is not that ENORMOUS for you guys to go ballistic about... a 6.5 kmph can be roughly considered as d speed at which human beings walk... A standstill person watchin a walkin person wont miss the glimpse of the latter within a sec or even a minute right...??

                            And above all, its not as if you pulsarians are going at full throttle all the time right...?? Atleast for 95% time we spend on the bike, we go below 100 for sure... atleast a major major portion.... ( u may b an exception )....

                            So it means, the marginal difference can at best be just restricted to the stats....

                            And both overdrive and Bike india says that ZMR cannot match a R15 on the track but the 220 will struggle to keep up with ZMR coz of its inferior dynamics compared to d ZMR..!! Again, we dun spend ny time on such circuits, so this too can be considered as a marginal stat... which can be considered as somethin which can nullify your ' 1 sec 0-100 advantage stat ' or ' '7 kph top speed advantage'..

                            And the entire difference in class is obvious from these statistics alone...
                            A bike which has got 4 bhp more and almost 15 kilos less is able to gain only such fractional advantages... That speaks tons about the difference in quality and the depth of Engineering..

                            Cheers Mate..
                            Last edited by gautamsankar; 11-25-2009, 12:12 AM.
                            The Blue flags are flying high....sigpic....Proud to be a Trueblue..!!

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                            • see overdrive figures. They are more reliable and more experienced that BI guys.
                              And BI has given the lowest figures for p220 and the highest figures for zmr than other magazines. Overdrive specifically mentioned its 2 sec slower. And so does zigwheels.
                              And also please tell where they said 220 struggles to keep with zmr on track?
                              Also the average human walking speed is 4.51kmph. And 6.5 is 2kmph more.
                              Last edited by gauravbalu; 11-25-2009, 12:25 AM.
                              pulsar 220 dts-fi clocks 145kmph!
                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8SPjGtkRWo

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                              • Originally posted by gauravbalu View Post
                                yes! your right! a full 2 sec slower to 100 is very much respectable and lets not forget, we are getting 9 more kgs of plastic, that makes it even more respectable
                                I have used a ZMA for three years and I never felt lack of power and thoroughly enjoyed it and I am sure I am gonna enjoy the ZMR the sameway. If the P220 makes you cry, just go and buy it. It is cheaper and more powerful. No need to cry that ZMR is 2 sec slower than a P220. And, you know, P220 is a full 5 sec slower than a Ninja.
                                HH Karizma (Current) || CBF Stunner PGM-FI || Honda CB Unicorn Dazzler
                                Honda Aviator || Kinetic Flyte || Kinetic Blaze || HH Splendor

                                Two ZMAs, 9 Days in Western Ghats

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