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I did! sorry mateOriginally posted by crazy_NJ View PostI asked for some more pics of your White beauty and you rejected my request right away... Buddy, thats very disappointing...
am reserving a few for a proper log. for the rest you can check this post na...they are already posted.
cheers!"Never recreate from your memory, always imagine new places"
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Worrisomebears zmr is due for the first service. Most probably will go on friday to give it. All well so far! running absolutely fine.Originally posted by fast_ferocious View PostOn reading the last couple of pages, all I can say is, I hate the ZMA-R and the P220 equally. Both are crap!
END OF THE WAR

Now let the ZMR discussion begin.
"Never recreate from your memory, always imagine new places"
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So fast,first service ka time hogaya?Time sure fliesOriginally posted by myg124 View PostWorrisomebears zmr is due for the first service. Most probably will go on friday to give it. All well so far! running absolutely fine.
.Please do post in the details of the work done during the 1st service.
Socha Toh Locha.
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WELL.......what i read a couple of pages back about zma/zmr versus 220 .....is the same gugugaga....which i have been reading since 220 launched in 2007..... its quite boring now
....... all 220 owners ur bike is the best ok....
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we love our zma/zmr no matter how slow they are , or how bad they are......we just love zma/zmr
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if anyone wants to do a 220 vs.zma pls go to orkut...the best place for ppl who wants to make biased comparisons
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ok...now focussing on the zmr.....few days back i complained that my zmr is giving only 38-40 mileage......so i finally went to SVC....and told them.......and i was surprised to know that engine oil was a little low
...... after first service... the stupid guy who serviced my bike even didnt fill the oil completely.....i was so much irritated

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the service engineer told me that the engine was running a little hotter and thats why it was giving reduced mileage......
now it has gone up to 42 mark...hope it will touch more....
but I give a suggestion u to all bike owners that do check ur bike carefully while servicing....these craps can just do anything...

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after a fight with svc ppl the person who serviced my bike is removed.....im also writing a complaint to hero honda about this.......
hope this has not made any damage to the engine...."Biking is Divine"
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Originally posted by velociraptor13 View PostYep it seems they are deliberately holding of the bookings
,but why
Ther is literal no show of ZMR here in Pune (apart from a display bike being reported by somebody here in one dealership)
Waiting period as everybody on majorly all parts of the country is saying to be 2 months...! Initially they had this excuse of RTO nod and all.
But delaying the process further only points out to one direction - AXING OF ZMA
HH launched ZMR due to falling sales of ZMA and direct competition from R15 and Pulsar 220....else they would have continued it till eternity.
Now with the ZMR adding to the competition, ZMA sales would further drop. At least 50% of ZMAs prospect buyers would be lured by the ZMR (if not more)
The deliberate holding back of the bike only implies to the fact that they want to finish off ther available stock of ZMAs and then go with the ZMR all guns blazing!
I cant find any other logical reason, its been around 2 months since its launch and it has still not made it to the market!
ZMA buyers, do think about this...!2002 - Pulsar 150 Classic (Still owned)
2005 - Pulsar 150 Dtsi (Still owned)
2006 - Eterno (sold)
2008 - Dio (Owned)
2009 - Pulsar 220 DTSi
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DevilPulsarian, ZMA-R sales have not dropped. They have infact increased in the last year. The number of buyers who can afford a ZMA-R (or a bike in that price range) have increased in the last year or two. I still see lots of new ZMA-R's here with T/R stickers. I spoke to a known mechanic in Service Center and he said the sales have not gone down.
At 1.05 lac, I do not think ZMR will be as successful as a ZMA-R. HH can sell more number of ZMA than a ZMR down the line. The main reason for this would be the almost same power of ZMR as ZMA and the maintenance cost for a ZMR will be on higher side with a fall or two.
Here in Hyderabad too, dealers are yet to receive a 'go' from Hero Honda. I do not have any clue why they held distribution.
Anmol, filling of less quanity of oil is completely unacceptable. I would strongly urge you to complain to Hero Honda. You can play with anything but not engine oil; anything could have happened. I also advice you to check engine oil level and do airfilter cleaning on your own and not to depend on the service center. You can check spark plug too. These three things are the core for a bike's service.Last edited by ravi@17bhp; 11-25-2009, 10:53 PM.HH Karizma (Current) || CBF Stunner PGM-FI || Honda CB Unicorn Dazzler
Honda Aviator || Kinetic Flyte || Kinetic Blaze || HH Splendor
Two ZMAs, 9 Days in Western Ghats
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Sorry for misquoting... I Cudn find ur othr comment...Originally posted by Devilpulsarian View PostHold on hold on.....
I also own/owned 2 Hondas! Though you were quite right in quoting yourselves as Honda spokespersons/promoters here...
And all through the ZMR topics and posts....quote me where I even compared any of the bikes with ZMR or vice versa....
Its just that you guys entertain us and we get entertained....

By d way.. Devil Pulsarian, You ride a FI or SI version of d 220..??
Any 220 DTSi owners over here... How much mileage u gettin frm ur bike when driven at 1- 60-70 and 2- 75-90...???
I badly wanna buy and get hold of d ZMR but to b frank i ve now started thinkin of d alternatives coz o dis F***** delay..!!! I ll be around juz for 5 or 6 months frm here on... so wots d point if i cant get the bike any soon..
I'll b waitin till December 20th or Jan 1 2010 maximum.. after that... i'll start d fyt to get ma 30,000 Bucks back frm d showroom ppl...lolzz...
Hope they make d delivery soon.. nyway...
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Originally posted by gautamsankar View PostSorry for misquoting... I Cudn find ur othr comment...
By d way.. Devil Pulsarian, You ride a FI or SI version of d 220..??
Any 220 DTSi owners over here... How much mileage u gettin frm ur bike when driven at 1- 60-70 and 2- 75-90...???
I badly wanna buy and get hold of d ZMR but to b frank i ve now started thinkin of d alternatives coz o dis F***** delay..!!! I ll be around juz for 5 or 6 months frm here on... so wots d point if i cant get the bike any soon..
I'll b waitin till December 20th or Jan 1 2010 maximum.. after that... i'll start d fyt to get ma 30,000 Bucks back frm d showroom ppl...lolzz...
Hope they make d delivery soon.. nyway...
you should ask this question in 220 dtsi thread dude...anyways i have a 220 dtsi with 7000kms on odo...mine is mileage tuned and i weigh 95kgs...so top end till now is 140kmph...if i ride bel0w 55 to 60kmph i get around 50kmpl....below 75 to 80 i get around 45kmpl....above 100 and below 140 i get 35 to 38kmpl...top end wid pillion 95+75 kgs is 135kmph...thats itI RuLe Da HeAvEn, I RuLe Da heLL,I RuLe Da UnIvErSe, As HuMaNiTy FeLL
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Originally posted by KARIZMATIC View Post^^^
one thing i would like to say zma-r will not be discontinued for atleast a couple of years........[i have this info from reliable sources].
so pls find some other logical reasons.........
Lets see!
if this is true then I cant find any reason for so much of delay...!
People who can pay over 1 lakh for a bike generally do not care very much about spares. Barring a few things, almost everything is similar and hence similar price expected. So in a span of 5 years of ownership of both the bikes, I really think the difference would be marginal (if et all) which would be nulled by a better fuel efficiency of ZMR.Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View PostDevilPulsarian, ZMA-R sales have not dropped. They have infact increased in the last year. The number of buyers who can afford a ZMA-R (or a bike in that price range) have increased in the last year or two. I still see lots of new ZMA-R's here with T/R stickers. I spoke to a known mechanic in Service Center and he said the sales have not gone down.
At 1.05 lac, I do not think ZMR will be as successful as a ZMA-R. HH can sell more number of ZMA than a ZMR down the line. The main reason for this would be the almost same power of ZMR as ZMA and the maintenance cost for a ZMR will be on higher side with a fall or two.
Here in Hyderabad too, dealers are yet to receive a 'go' from Hero Honda. I do not have any clue why they held distribution.
Moreover you pay for the moon or the sun, it still is heavenly!
Anyways, sale figures could not be quoted by either you or me. But one thing is obvious, considering the way Honda does its business, ZMR would have been another (mere) sticker upgrade had they not lost somewhat in the market. Even if you closely look at the trend on xbhp, people asking for ZMA have reduced considerably!
Anyways, lets see what has HH in store for us!
Hey buddy, I feel this is the wrong place to ask about any other bike.Originally posted by gautamsankar View PostSorry for misquoting... I Cudn find ur othr comment...
By d way.. Devil Pulsarian, You ride a FI or SI version of d 220..??
Any 220 DTSi owners over here... How much mileage u gettin frm ur bike when driven at 1- 60-70 and 2- 75-90...???
I badly wanna buy and get hold of d ZMR but to b frank i ve now started thinkin of d alternatives coz o dis F***** delay..!!! I ll be around juz for 5 or 6 months frm here on... so wots d point if i cant get the bike any soon..
I'll b waitin till December 20th or Jan 1 2010 maximum.. after that... i'll start d fyt to get ma 30,000 Bucks back frm d showroom ppl...lolzz...
Hope they make d delivery soon.. nyway...
Jump over to P220 DTSi ownership experience and I would be glad to talk about everything. Lets not distort this topic!2002 - Pulsar 150 Classic (Still owned)
2005 - Pulsar 150 Dtsi (Still owned)
2006 - Eterno (sold)
2008 - Dio (Owned)
2009 - Pulsar 220 DTSi
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Firstly i want to know what speeds were you doing in your running in period. I did find you quoting 80kays which shouldnt be done actually.. Was the oil not changed in the first service??Originally posted by anmol_1990 View PostWELL.......what i read a couple of pages back about zma/zmr versus 220 .....is the same gugugaga....which i have been reading since 220 launched in 2007..... its quite boring now
....... all 220 owners ur bike is the best ok....
..
we love our zma/zmr no matter how slow they are , or how bad they are......we just love zma/zmr
.....
if anyone wants to do a 220 vs.zma pls go to orkut...the best place for ppl who wants to make biased comparisons
....
ok...now focussing on the zmr.....few days back i complained that my zmr is giving only 38-40 mileage......so i finally went to SVC....and told them.......and i was surprised to know that engine oil was a little low
...... after first service... the stupid guy who serviced my bike even didnt fill the oil completely.....i was so much irritated

......
the service engineer told me that the engine was running a little hotter and thats why it was giving reduced mileage......
now it has gone up to 42 mark...hope it will touch more....
but I give a suggestion u to all bike owners that do check ur bike carefully while servicing....these craps can just do anything...

..
after a fight with svc ppl the person who serviced my bike is removed.....im also writing a complaint to hero honda about this.......
hope this has not made any damage to the engine....
with regards to the zmr deliveries, its really a very very sorry state. But i think once the waiting period eases up things will be absolutely fine. I hope this time around HH does a good job of spares availability n all.."Never recreate from your memory, always imagine new places"
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