I think you will be in better position to answer it, you said that you ride both of them daily right?

May I, the RTR redlines at 13k, but its vibey from 6.5k & beyond.even the Bajaj sends vibes through handle bar & pegs at about 100-110 kph( around 7.5k on the tacho) at that speed, the old ZMA is vibe free & butter smooth.

All the bikes have some damn brawny points & some areas of improvement..why crib about others, just pick the one you like the most & ride to the horizon, to the sunset.. The Doors playing on your Ipod/mp3/mp4 player/ cell phone.. cheers!~!

Going by mags!! how many of the Pulsar guys will agree to it ?

I really cannot say about stress at 8500rpm as its very difficult for karizma to hit the rpm limit in 5th gear (atleast the one i ride) and it also makes lesser sound and is smother than 220. But judging with sound alone is not correct. And beyond red line, an engine is bound to feel stress, sound or no sound.
And i thought that apache redlines at 9000rpm but has no revlimit..

In reference to the endless posts of ZMA/Pulsar war of words.

Such arguments are futile and only lead to aggressive members and waste of server space. Please mature yourselves and have healthy discussions rather than silly arguments fuelled by bloating egos.

P.S.: My post is not directed to anyone in particular and is merely to bring some sense into the thread.
Peace.

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Speaking of redlining, I actually don't remember the last time I redlined my ZMA. That engine simply goes on and on and ...

haha that was a good joke .

Well I am a two stroke lover and love no brands but only good bikes .
So I would like to put up something that I felt here .
In city limits we should talk only about 0-60kmph . On highways yes those 2 seconds do matter but ONLY while overtaking in certain situations . Heck even a second does. And this does make a difference , would leave on to my friends to figure it out . This considering there is 2 second difference.

Both bikes are for different people . The zma is a relaxed smooth engine . The pulsar is told to have brute power with amazing straight like acceleration .
Different people with different types of likings .
I dont know how it bothers someone if some x person is faithful to some particular brand unless he irritates us .

For eg : If you are asked to choose between julia roberts and angelina jolie , some would choose julia n some angelina . Does it mean any of em are bad or not good looking or etc ? . I dont like any of em .

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Anyways ZMR owners , can the fairing be removed ? . I mean just the fairing and nothing else.

zmr true top speed is 129 not 126. see roadtest of zmr in autocarindia nov magazine.in hh website they have given wrongly.

, reinforcement never came but the enemy territory was good, they treated me nicely.
I usually dont gape over such timings honestly.I would be happy to know the in gear timings of ZMR and 220 to get an idea as thats what matters the most in real world conditions. Am sure in gear for ZMR will be better than ZMA because of the new PGM FI.
+1. For me now ZMA is damn old and featureless compared to the competition, its the smooth engine and goodwill of zma thts pulling it along. Zmr is a nice step forward in changing the looks and that "secsy" instrument console. Zma for tourers, smooth power delivery and safe way out.
220 is a bike for those who love the brute power delivery, full of features and most importantly at a very VFM price.

We can never and we never should say 220 is best or ZMR is best. Both bikes offer a package- its for you and me to decide what package he wants. What preferences i may choose may not match with yours so both bikes are good and noone is overpriced etc.
Period.
Make that one Angeline please , that too without brad and children army she's gathering.
Its a lovely fairing yaar, why would anyone remove that? I think its bolted upon by bolts so it must be removable.

[QUOTE=Devilpulsarian;333158]I Ride also.......

Acha really! Good for you

Didnt understand, the way the bike does its given top end? You mean how quickly? I dont know how much time a ZMR will take to reach 126 and am neither interested in it, such figures arent of much use.

Same here mate...Neither am I interested in how quick a p220 reaches its figures either :P So the numbers arent of much use.

what he meant was how it reaches there & sustains.Of sir has written a well described text on it.

Thanks a lot, thats precisely what i wanted to ask. Whats the top end and how relaxed is the engine at that speed.
Seems the attitude towards other bikers from some guys will never change. Jumping on the gun in an instant. Phew Its like India-Pakistan for 220-ZMR.
Am outaa here, thanks.

That was very informative piece of info.
Please learn to use Quote tags as its very difficult to read like this, use multiquote too.

Phew! Some things never change. Even after some sensible posts, people try to prove a point and score a win.

I would advice everybody, if they do not already done that, to grab last month's BI issue regarding the comparo. It is the best review. I humbly request all please stop bashing/riduculing the other competitor.

Exactly.!!
Thats what me too said... After readin throug OD,Autocar n everythin... I felt the bike india review was the best..!!
And as some1 said, 220 n ZMR r for 2 different group of ppl...
Im yet to receive my bike and can cancel my order too...but i wont coz am sure....ZMR is xactly what i wanted..!! Perfectly happy with ma choice..!!

On reading the last couple of pages, all I can say is, I hate the ZMA-R and the P220 equally. Both are crap!

END OF THE WAR


Now let the ZMR discussion begin.

OT :

Coolboy007 , thats the way it is man , leave it .
Go in 220 thread and ask about 220 , and ask about zmr here .
People liking angelina will like her over julia no matter what , except if jeniffer garner jumps in .
Yea the 220 n zmr thing is like a Indo-Pak or any other war which mostly results in nothing , but disturbed minds .

As darkknight mentioned , read OF sir's post . It will help .

Not OT :

I asked a question , nobody saw it .