Really? Isnt this supposed to be a ZMR ride report/ Impressions thread? If iam not wrong doesnt everyone have the freedom/right to post here whatever his impressions are after a ride on it? And FYI these are not called comments.

Cheers!!

Isnt that a 4 wheeler? Maybe bajaj has done it for the first time in the 2 wheeler segment. If thats a copy it cant be patented. Can it be?
Isnt this OT?

A long stroke engine can develop more torque but less power, both at lower revs when compared to a short stroke engine of equal displacement & same basic engine design principle which develops lesser torque but more power, but at higher rpms when compared side by side. This is the reason zmr produces some 18NM torque but only 17 BHP though its detuned & p220 produces some 19NM torque with 21BHP power. A technical explanation for this would totally be OT.
Long strokes are used in touring machines as they are run relaxed at lower rpms by the riders & short strokes are using in racing machines as they are pushed to their limits everytime for maximum output by the racers. Try pushing a long stroke to its extreme limit for an extended period of time. I had to dump my zma in scrapyard coz of it.

Having owned a zma which succumbed to my abuse i have never got a satisfactory reply to why people call it relaxed even at its peak rpm. Or maybe the new zma's are built better like new pulsars.

PS- i every time take the example of P220 when comparing zma/zmr because they are of almost same displacement.

Agreed. I would have liked a analogue tachometer in its place more.

Iam one among those few & i definitely dont have ANY plans of becoming an uncle in my life. Engines especially short stroke ones are my first love.

Did i ever say i like P220 or Bajaj?
I neither like Bajaj nor Honda. I like Yamaha & Kawasaki. Fell instantly in love with them after seeing them race in my previous locality (Sainikpuri) (R6 vs Zx6R)!!
Iam very much sane & would just want to say that 1 second is a HUGE margin.

I seriously dont know why TVS won & the reply for this is OT for sure.

Well if u could do some research & provide me the features or manufacturers spec sheet of the PGM-FI (Programmed Fuel Injection) i would refrain from calling it a marketing gimmick. Would just like to say that every FI is programmed. It is the ECU which must have the new goodies.
I also call Oil Cooled/Nitrox as marketing gimmick.

As i said my friend's friend, an acquaintance of mine has it & stays near my locality. Did 4 laps of my college route. I took one pic on it & letme tell u the bike shines a lot. Will post as i receive the pic. My phone doesnt have a camera.

Cool reply.. I like it
Even if i agree totally with you, the lower (comparatively) handle bars of indian bikes are more closer to actual sports clip-ons. I have been (just sat ) on the saddle of an R6 & no its not very low. But yeah its lower than the R15 & the stance is real aggressive which would be pain in the spine for MANY. Drag bikes have got real low handle bars. They need to rest on their tanks to grab them perfectly.

Would like to end this not so important discussion for good. After seeing another karizma iam now confident that karizma is not the bike for me.
My requirements are:

1. A quick peaky revver which can rev over 12k rpm.
2. An ultra short stroke motor which feels sluggish at low revs but gives a sudden power bump if revved hard.
3. A bike with analogue instrumentation & digital console.
4. A lightweight steed with hard suspension which attacks corners aggressively.
5. No iam not a tourer so touring capabilities dont really matter.

In simple words a Yamaha R series or a Kawasaki Ninja bigger than 250cc.

You are a hard man to reach mr.Rahul! Going by the bikes you owned( keeping the fact apart about the one that got impounded or literally dumped..mann! we dont DUMP our bikes, we got a certain amount of love and respect for 'em. Selling is one thing and dumping is one!) So yes going by those points we very well understand your criteria of buying a bike.

Ah! Cant add any more words.

Rahul, though I want to answer some of your queries, after reading the abvoe words, I better not comment anything. Hope you get a 400+ mill from Yam or Kawa and show some mercy on our puny indian bikes and stop dumping them. I am sure you would dump the P220 soon.

BTW, Please get married, do not be a bachelor. I am worried about these words.

Ohh.. You both understood me wrong..
The zma had to be dumped as it was a complete engine failure & crashed.
whole clutch replaced at 10k kms. (according to svc as i used synthetic oil )
bore-piston worn at 12k kms & i still dragged it further as i was broke. Used to smoke like 2-stroke.
engine seizure at 15k kms in the middle of fast moving traffic. I was hit from behind due to it & was lucky to be hospitalized only with a dislocated shoulder bone.
Rear wheel, chassis broken & tyre torn. Also whole fairing broken with forks bent & disc bent beyond truing limitations .
When the engine was opened they found broken crankshaft & con-rod & burnt valves & declared that as the reason for seizure. I was offered 5k by the scrap yard so my dad dumped it there & never bothered to ask for the money.
The yezdi was impounded as we dint have the papers. They were damaged in the rains.

Btw, Iam ready to marry but iam not finding a girl with similar chemistry.
I completed 19 & stepped into 20 recently!

@SUMER GOYAL:-
How is it possible ? IS this legal? as far as my knowledge goes , when your registration is done , Your bike's colour and chassis number will be noted by the RTA . IF YOu Change the colour , its Just going to be Illegal. Can You Please Clarify this?

i guess he didn't registered the bike till the color is changed

my zmr not registered.

the number u see in number plate is my old number which i retain from my old zma.

Holy S...!! Don't even think of marriage yet. Wives are very delicate and they are suppose to last for life. And you cannot simply dump them if they are broken, ya know.

And dnt use synthetic oil either

HaHaHaHa! you made my day .

Hello Guys..

The OSRAM Coolblue Looks Supercool... Lookswise its almost like a HID...
I felt almost 10-20 % Increase in lighting...
And the light is pure white..!!
I'll try to post some pics soon...
The problem is i dunno how clear the pictures would be, when taken in a mobile camera.. Anyway i'll try...
I haven changed the park lights yet... I want osram park lights... So waiting for that.. The current Yellow lights looks crap alongside the white headlight..!!

@ Rahul - Now i can understand u have clear reasons to hate the Karizmas...
n ya.. Everyone has the right to raise their opinion..!!

After so many discussions on the headlight bulb, which bulb has been decided to pe the perfect replacement of the stock one? Philips or osram ? and which model?


ROTFLMFAO

From my small research I found the verdict in this order:-

OSRAM Nightbreaker > OSRAM Coolblue > Philips Bluevision > Philips Vision Plus

Then there is this model called Philips Xtreme Power which i heard is as good as the Nightbreaker... But havent got a chance to see it yet...
They lit and showed me Nightbreaker, Coolblue and Visionplus....
Nightbreakers light is not as white as Coolblue..

@Saminder - So far i havent heard of any cases over here when police have caught vehicles for having white light.. But many have been fined for using the HID Projectors. ( For both car and bike.. ).. Infact a cop caught my friend's p220 for possessing the projectors... He kinda abused and stuff... We told we din change the light and it was stock headlight only.. And he left us... Stupid Cops..

Good luck to u then!

hahahaha! well put KM. I second you on this

hahahaaha! I third Mohsin on this

after all rahuls id says it all: insane!

But you are installing the coolblue instead of nightbreaker

Do you know the pricing of these bulbs?