^^Glad to hear that.Me to has this "new" cbz xtreme red alloy yep xtreme top end performance compared to 150 pulsar is great.Never lost a race on the freeway till date.But if you are referring apache as the RTR (not the old one) you are completely mistaken dude the RTR will RAPE an xtreme be it the city or the highway.Its miles ahead of the xtreme/hunk dude have you ever ripped the RTR like mad well i did it was such an adrenaline rush that i almost sold my xtreme for crap to get the RTR.Its a much safer bike too.I have to pour synthetic oil to just keep up with an rtr on the freeway.Dont forget its AWESOME front disks .

apache mean the classic one. not the rtr-fi. i consider that's another 160's territory. that excess 10cc over the 150cc play the power.
BTW, yesterday i made the 350+KMs trip in the rain just because i saw a RTR on sell AD on the net and on the spot i & my frend ran for it through the rain. sad part is wen we reached there, we discovered those bikes are stolen/hijacked from india & smuggled into here.
and i'm not into illegal thing so had to back instantly again in the rain.
the pulling power of cbz-x is effortless, so easy. hunk in other hand feels like as if its stuck in somewhere. i'm trying selling my bike now

Both have got the same engines buddy. The difference is purely psychological IMO.

can anyone PLEASE explain me this:
14.2 BHP @ 8500 RPM
12.8 nm @ 6500 RPM
what they mean.
I guess Hunk's max output 14.2 bhp is out when it reaches 8500 RPM? then the 9K~11K RPM for what doing there.
keeping the bike always around 8K~9K would stress the engine?
and wat is 12.8nm @ 6500RPM? could someone throw some light on this all, please.

The first Figure is the Maximum power output, while the second is the Max Torque.

Torque is nothing but the measurement of the twisting force.

Master user take your pick:

what is torque - Google Search

If all goes well i will be running on motul by evening.MyCP1R exp. is great.
only thing is as i had to topup every now and then not really sure how long a single bottle (i used 2) CP1R lasts on my kind of riding.But this i can say the oil stays like new for about 2500kms performance too stays that way.after that i really cant say cause i had to top up like a maniac cause of HH SC stupid "service".It has completed around 5500kms the ride quality has surprisingly deteriorated to the point where i dont fell like i am on synthetic oil anymore.The only thing i dont like about this oil is it takes a little while to get warmed up then only u feel the accelerationIf run around my village i dont get the kind of performance from the oil that i get say on the freeway.And also the first gear SUCKS big time with CP1R i have to rev it to 5k to get the perfect gear change but i am not complaining .I still remember the first trip to chennai on CP1R i rammed into an auto cause i dint get used to the change in acceleration from this oil.

Even with the same engine, Hunk is little heavier (May be 3kg) than Xtreme and also less arodynamic.

Aerodynamics?

R15 is the only Indian bike to have undergone Wind Tunnel testing.

Even if the Drag co-efficients of CBZ X and Hunk differ, they would be very much negligable. That too for bikes whose top speeds are in the range of 110~120 kmph(True).

hey what's up mcspeed. hows ur red hunk doing?

could anyone explain this more precisely:
14.2BHP @ 8500 RPM
what to 9K-11K RPM then?

So my handlebar is bent (right side is closer to me than left side) from the numerous falls. I was wondering do other bikes handlebars fit? I really like the apache handlebar (straight not curved).

Why have you fallen "numerous" times.I think their is something wrong with the way u apply the brake.Dont use the front disk only apply the rear as well.
More than the handlebars I think you should invest in a good soft compound tyre in the front like the michilen M45(please give this some serious thought mate).

@master user with castrol power one racing my "new" xtreme regularly breaches the 9000RPM mark easily.The highest i have gone is around 9700RPM speedo showing 125KM/HR

no no its not what you think its just freak accidents..plus this is my first bike..the first time I fell I had gone to pune and due to a family emercency was forced to ride back at night itself instead of the next day so on the old highway I fell into a pothole (the bike literally fell and nearly vanished off the road). The second time i was riding home at night and a dead puppy was lying in the middle of the road, I freaked thinking it was alive and braked hard..had full balance but i still went over the body which then caused me to tilt and fall. The third time a bloody dog decided to dart accross (this is the one time I braked the wrong way and hit the front brakes hard).

so what about the handlebars? there is nothing wrong with the default cbz-x ones but I just like the way the apache's bar looks.

14.2 BHP @ 8500 RPM - The engine makes its maximum power of 14.2 BHP at 8500 RPM. The engine can revv higher up the RPM range bit wouldn't be able to deliver that much power. The combustion cycle won't be that efficient as the speed increases and the power drops off its peak. That doesn't mean that teh engine doesn;t make any power above 8500 RPM. It means that the power made at RPM's higher than 8500 is lesser than its peak which is at 8500.

I'm not sure how precise it was.

A small analogy. Say you have to walk for 10 KM's (if even you did it!). You would defanitely need some energy to take up the task, need some think like say water, still have to hold on with some ebergy after reaching the destination to get your task done and of course you should be able to return say by the evening.

Assuming you are not at athelete who's not used to such a thing every day (well, even if you are, just increase the 10KM thing to higher up)

If you walk very slowly you would conserve energy but cannot return the same day and would catch sun burn for spending so much time in the sun.

If you walk fast you would use up more energy and would be more thirsty for breathing higher amount of air (throat dried up), would sweat more, but might reach teh destination in decently good time and go about your work and might still have good enough time to return in the same way.

If you run you will make up distance at a very good time but you would get totally exhausted and may not be able to get about your work at the destination, might get dehydrated on the way, may be the water is not sufficient, may get hit by sun stroke...

It all boils down to efficiency and not the best ability.

To get RTR's clip-on's you should confirm the mount points to be the same. Otherwise most regular handlebars should be a fit - unless there are thicker tubes for some bike's.

^^ Hydbiker sir good explanation.
Today changed my oil to motul.some poor pictures :

This one after some of the dirt was wiped off but still...:




I dont know what these rollers are the mech cleaned it with petrol:




So much oil drained off its hard to believe its 900ml.The motul oil has an nice aroma.I took a short test drive for the first 6 kms i was like WTF once the oil got warmed up it was like KABOOM.I kept the bike near the 100KM/HR for over 6 kms surprisingly the engine doesnt heat up that much.Well i am going to chennai today to get the most expensive accounting book i ever bought(Cost me Rs12,400 a little excited) will update on MOTUL once i get back.

^^^That filter sure looks dirty! Hope you got it cleaned well. Is that shiny stuff metal particles? What about the centrifugal filter? Was your engine really clean from inside?