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  • Originally posted by sarbanoxley View Post
    ravi after i changed the parts performance have actually increased.Then
    can i push the bike to the limit to see how it performs now, as i have not taken the bike to the redline for sometime.If it goes to 9500RPM then all is well right.If it doesnt i can change the oil immediately-am i on the right track
    You can always push the bike to limits and nothing will happen if you do it occasionally. If you push the bike to the limits all the time, the engine's life comes down over all. This is why I have been telling you to cruise at 80-90 kmph.

    BTW, what parts you have changed? I have not been following this thread recently.
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    • Ravi i changed the spark plug and the air filter cost me Rs 248.
      Can you tell me what are the parts that needs to be replaced @ 10000kms.
      I have already changed the fork oil @ 7000kms.Thanks
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      • Originally posted by sarbanoxley View Post
        Ravi i changed the spark plug and the air filter cost me Rs 248.
        Can you tell me what are the parts that needs to be replaced @ 10000kms.
        I have already changed the fork oil @ 7000kms.Thanks
        Good that you have changed Spark Plug and Air filter. It is required. I do not see any other parts that needs to changed at 10000km.

        Why did you change fork oil at 7k?? The fork oil serves well for around 15k, unless there is some leak.
        Last edited by ravi@17bhp; 04-10-2009, 01:20 PM.
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        • 125KM/HR @ 9600rpm -CONFIRMED.so the oil is genuine right

          The fork oil was replaced cause my mech @ the SC told me to change it
          but didnt tell me why.Though he changed it in front of me (i even helped him).
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          • ^^^Fork oil is good for 30,000 km/2years dude! In fact, since most of your riding seems to be on good roads, you might be able to pull off without a change for a few thousand km more. You shouldn't have allowed him to change it. Worst is they usually spoil the chromed nuts near the handle... and that sux.

            Air filter and spark plug can make a difference. Both should be good for 12 k km at least. Its possible that your air filter wasn't cleaned properly... thats why you saw a huge difference. New plug will make a difference if the old one was worn beyond limits.

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            • Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post
              Thanks a ton Sarban! I don't know how much I owe you for all the running around you did for that part!
              Looking forward to riding with you&having some good old Tamil Nadu tea&snacks with you next time I visit Chennai!
              You are always welcome mate

              @racoon i will keep that in mind .thanks.

              ravi from here on i would ride below 90km/hr.In fact i have not really pushed her for over a 1000km until now.


              Last edited by sarbanoxley; 04-10-2009, 05:44 PM.
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              • Anyone knows how much does the new front fairing of CBZ Xtreme cost and are the mounting points same as the old one? I would also like to know how much do the clear lens indicators and carbon fibre instrument console cost as well. My friend wants to change to the above parts on his 07'Xtreme.

                Awaiting a reply,

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                • Guys motul is ester based oil right-Its expensive to produce than say castrol power 1 racing.Ester based oils offer more protection than say non ester based oils like CP1R(i am not sure).Motul has a TBN of over 3 dont know about castrol P1R since it has a high TBN it can last longer right.Motul even has a lot more anti wear additives (zinc, phosphorous) than castrol.The article also says:

                  A lower TBN does not mean the oil is bad, it just means that the drain-interval potential is not as great. If you change your oil every 1000-2000 miles, then you shouldn't be concerned with this value

                  And this:
                  Evaporative Heat Stability Test
                  As expected, the petroleum-based oils such as BelRay EXL, both Valvoline oils and the Yamalube and Torco synthetic blends are on the low end of the scale. Proving how good some synthetic blends are, top blend performer Castrol GPS actually out-performs one of the full synthetic oils (BelRay EXS). In general, however, the full synthetic oils are the winners here, with an average value of 93 percent, compared to the synthetic blends at 89 percent and the dinosaur oils at 86 percent.

                  Tapered Roller Shear Test
                  Looking at the motorcycle-specific oils, it's notable that the Motul 5W-40 version does not hold up nearly as well as the 10W-40 version (in fact, slightly worse than the auto oil)

                  Is the 10W-40 motul available in india
                  Last edited by sarbanoxley; 04-12-2009, 07:36 PM.
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                  • Bike started leaking oil again so finally decided to take the bike to Castrol bike zone.Here is my GOLD service experience:

                    1)The guy took apart the rear wheel assembly cleaned everything thoroughly
                    with wax(i think) and used high pressure air. He also used sand papper on the drum brakes.

                    2)He removed a rod which goes into the chassis and brushed it with sandpapper till it was shining like silver and applied grease all over it.He said this should be done to increase the shock absorbers life.

                    3)He took apart the carb part by part and used almost 1/2 litre of my pertol like it was water.After he was done the carb looked like it was made of silver and it was shining like anything.

                    4)he removed the chain and put it in the chain cleaning machine.When it was done the chain looked like it was spanking new.He said its because of the quality of the stuff they use the grease costs Rs 400 for KG.

                    5)They took the whole front disc assembly off and here to used sand papper.Had to change the disc pads they showed it to me.Their was this rod that goes through the disc-firk-wheel they removd it and did the same routine.

                    6)He removed the tank and the engine lid adjusted the tappet and a lot more things.he was poking the screw driver here and there i dont know.
                    He said the tappet was screwed tighly thats why the noise.He said if the tappet was loose it would also make the irritating noise and u will exp. a loss in pickup.But its even worse if its tight .He said it should neither be tight nor be loose.

                    7)He removed all the paste that was appplied in the SC on the gasket and reapplies a clorless paste and replaced a nut with the washer.He said the
                    thread was worn out has to be rethreaded.He also applied quick fix on the nut.He said he would be happy if their are no leakage.

                    8)He removed the spark plug and scraped it with something.

                    9)removed the air filter and cleaned it.

                    10)He tested the battery and charged it.

                    11)He set the idle RPM with a hand held electronic device.It was cool.

                    12)Oh they water washed and applied VISTA wax.And checked the tyre pressure.

                    The bike has become silent i was cranking the self start often thinking the bike was off.The pickup has increased tremendously.Its very hard to keep it below 80KM/HR.If the leakage doesnt stop i have to give the engine head for retreading F@#$%^ SC B@#$%&*#@.
                    Last edited by sarbanoxley; 04-18-2009, 12:59 PM.
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                    • Nice experience you have there Sarbanes (I cannot all the time call you with full name, so I am cutting out Mr. Oxley).

                      They do good service if you are there with your bike. I too had a good experience when I was there with my bike. The second time with confidence, I gave my bike to them and left, to fix the same head leaking issue. They said everything done when I went back. But I still found the head leak, not even washed while washing the bike. Never went to the CBZ again.

                      Hope the head leak issue of your bike will not recur again.
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                      • Intresting experience but...


                        Originally posted by sarbanoxley View Post
                        1)The guy took apart the rear wheel assembly cleaned everything thoroughly
                        with wax(i think) and used high pressure air. He also used sand papper on the drum brakes.

                        Did you have a problem with the brakes? Btw, how effective are your rear brakes? Mine have always been weak...

                        5)They took the whole front disc assembly off and here to used sand papper.Had to change the disc pads they showed it to me.Their was this rod that goes through the disc-firk-wheel they removd it and did the same routine.

                        Why do all this stuff on a new bike??

                        6)He removed the tank and the engine lid adjusted the tappet and a lot more things.he was poking the screw driver here and there i dont know.
                        He said the tappet was screwed tighly thats why the noise.He said if the tappet was loose it would also make the irritating noise and u will exp. a loss in pickup.But its even worse if its tight .He said it should neither be tight nor be loose.

                        Actually, if tappet is "tighter" than specified, you will experience loss of power. If its loose, you will hear a clatter... and it might even wear prematurely. Even a tighter than specified tappet can get damaged. It has to be just right. Did you check the gauges they use? Hope he used seperate ones for inlet and outlet valves.

                        7)He removed all the paste that was appplied in the SC on the gasket and reapplies a clorless paste and replaced a nut with the washer.He said the
                        thread was worn out has to be rethreaded.He also applied quick fix on the nut.He said he would be happy if their are no leakage.

                        So it seems your last service centre did this wonderful work? You should have demanded a replacement for whatever they damaged.

                        8)He removed the spark plug and scraped it with something.

                        ......

                        10)He tested the battery and charged it.

                        With your kind of usage, the battery needs charging!?!?! Can't be... unless your charging system is screwed.

                        11)He set the idle RPM with a hand held electronic device.It was cool.

                        Was it a tachometer? You got one on your bike already. Of course it might not be as accurate as a digital one, but good enough for setting RPM.
                        Last edited by Raccoon; 04-18-2009, 01:24 PM.

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                        • Its imperative that you stay with your bike.I stood their for over 6 hours.
                          They even provided me with a chair but the mech was always moving here and their i had to do the same .He said that particular bike zone was owned by a prominent business tycoon who demands quality over anything.He said they are not allowed to service more than 2 bikes a day. even if they spend a whole day on a single bike no one minds.well i have no option but to believe what he said after seeing my bike getting serviced for real IoI.He said the chain cleaning machine draws 750 watts of power and many bike zones in chennai dont make full use of the device for the same reason.

                          @racoon The rear brakes have become more effective.He also said the engine will get hot if the tappet is not set the right way.The pickup is just AWESOME.Its like i have poured CP1R and Motul 300V combined(just joking).Regarding the SC how can i prove that the tread was gone due to their negligence.They will say it wasnt their fault.I know how these guys work.They are pathetic.I know some of the SC guys they live near my village.someone is getting mugged for sure.
                          Last edited by sarbanoxley; 04-18-2009, 02:13 PM.
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                          • Sarbanes, which thread has gone?? The thread with the engine block or the thread of the 'lid' bolt??
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                            • Ravi its the engine block.He said 1st he felt the screw being loose so thought that it was the culprit .but on tightening the screw he came to know the tread on the engine block was gone.
                              Last edited by sarbanoxley; 04-18-2009, 02:54 PM.
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                              • Originally posted by sarbanoxley View Post
                                Ravi its the engine block.He said 1st he felt the screw being loose so thought that it was the culprit .but on tightening the screw he came to know the tread on the engine block was gone.
                                Somehow I doubt this. Threading on engine block is very hard to go away. I guess the service guys opened the engine head only once. The chances of lost thread is very minimal. And of course, I am not telling that it is not possible. You better take a second opinion before jumping to conclusion. Anyway lets hope the head leak will go away now. If it does not, we will dig this issue again.
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