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  • Re: Yamaha Gladiator(All)

    Originally posted by lywyre View Post
    Did you get this solved yet?

    My bike also behaved as such last Saturday on the way to Vellore from Chennai. My brother suggested it could be a blocked silencer and got worse as we rode along. Found a Yamaha mechanic at Walajah (about 32kms from Vellore). The choke had jammed and he replaced the choke cable and the bike was back to normal. Turned out he was an ex-Yamaha employee.

    I suggest you get a second opinion from an outside mechanic.
    I second this.
    Check out the choke cable, ignition and spark plug.
    Do take a second opinion from a different svc/mechanic.
    A bike on the road is worth two in the shed.

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    • Re: Yamaha Gladiator(All)

      Originally posted by krishna77 View Post
      I second this.
      Check out the choke cable, ignition and spark plug.
      Do take a second opinion from a different svc/mechanic.
      Originally posted by lywyre View Post
      Did you get this solved yet?

      My bike also behaved as such last Saturday on the way to Vellore from Chennai. My brother suggested it could be a blocked silencer and got worse as we rode along. Found a Yamaha mechanic at Walajah (about 32kms from Vellore). The choke had jammed and he replaced the choke cable and the bike was back to normal. Turned out he was an ex-Yamaha employee.

      I suggest you get a second opinion from an outside mechanic.

      Hai,
      The problem seemed to have disappeared since last day. but iam just damn sure that it will come again.. it has been like that , the problem will disappear for few days and pop up again. Today the bike was perfectly fine, i tested out high end performance, and it was "ALL OK", it clocked 100kmph, it could rev properly and everything was pefect. But i really dont know how many days i will be able to enjoy this.. .. And yea Let me tell you, i didn't try out any new repairs, It just revived on its on. So i really don't know whats wrong.

      Regarding choke coil. Yea the choke cable is working, Its not jammed, i serviced my carburetor recently.

      regarding consulting an outside mechanic. Their is no place left in my small city :P. Now the mechanics are like " Oh the glady guy is coming with some new complaints, tell him we are busy " lol

      I would like to add few things regarding choke cable, I remember 2 years back i had a problem of engine missing, and found that choke had jammed and i had to give the carburetor to a lathe to get it fixed, and the reason Yam guys said was that its because i don't use choke often. Correct me if i am wrong, i guess choke is to be used only if need arises, The weather here is warm, and always i can start the bike in single crank. So should i still use choke so that it wont get " Jammed ". I feel it strange because i dont remember using choke on RXG everyday.

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      • Re: Yamaha Gladiator(All)

        Originally posted by lywyre View Post
        My odometer is stuck at 39999.9 and I can hear a ticking sound from the console (I understand a gear is slipping instead of turning over).
        Is it possible to fix the odo? I really don't want to lose the mileage my bike has gained so far.
        Chennai's roads are hurting the bike really badly, and I am taking the best possible route from Maduravoyal to Teynampet.
        I think it is repairable. Altough if it is not and you happen to buy a new speedo meter , you can get the exact digits set on to the new odometer.

        Originally posted by ameenhp View Post
        Hai,
        It is my first post here, And let me tell you i am in deep trouble. I own a gladiator which i bought in early 2008. I was having a RXG before and the beast RX100 before. So in short i was always a YAMAHA Fan so i decided to buy gladiator. But after 2 years the bike started giving me all sorts of trouble .

        The first issue was engine missing, The extent of missing was too much that once it turned of when i was climbing a steep uphill and i fell down. But when i serviced the bike at YAMAHA authorized center, the issue was fixed although for around a month or so and the problem started popping up again. This later became a routine that i no longer cared about missing.

        But then another strange issue popped up, Battery not charging.And like all the other people out their, i changed my battery without a second thought, even new battery was not charging even though it was showing the required voltage at terminals. And the YAM guys suggested me to replace the Rectifier, and i did. This didn't fix the issue and later by performing some tests i saw online, i was able to conclude that the alternator coil was faulty. (Although YAM people didn't agree to this ) I changed the alternator coil and the Issue was solved.

        and now another issue seemed to have popped up which is making the bike totally unusableThe bike doesn't rev beyond 2 or 3k rpm.. the moment i increase the throttle bike starts acting as if its starving for fuel. The issue doesn't seems to be with carburetor because yamaha guys tried cleaning the carb and tuning them. The problem gets even worse when their is a pillion, The bike hardly goes above 40. Their are lots of misfiring happening too.

        I changed sparkplug but issue still exists

        Now Yam guys are suggesting me to replace ignition and CDI unit, I really don't Understand whats happening with my bike, Why am i getting so much of problems, i used RX for years and never had to deal with any problems of this sort.

        So guys, Tell your views, Is something fishy here ?, Something like the ignition coil was faulty at the first place and it fried up rectifier and dynamo coil.

        Or is it something else
        Firstly , i am assuming your wiring hareness is a bit messed up as your RR & Stator failed. Get the stator & RR checked.
        2. There is plug that comes out of the engine left side (stator) , a white plug having 4 wires , yellow , white , black & blue i guess. diconnect the plug , clean both sides terminals with petrol & a tooth brush. Apply grease before fixing it back.

        3.Now the cable that connects the spark plug & HT coil is to be removed by unscrewing the cable from the Ht coil & sparkplug cap. cut of around 1 cm of the cable from both the ends and fix it back.
        4. There are two pins in HT coil , remove them , clean them and grease them b4 putting it back.

        5. Remove TPS plug from carburator , clean terminals , apply grease and fix back.

        By the above process , you are eliminating any failures in the ignition system whatsoever. CDI is not a toy that will fail every now and then and need replacement. I would not suggest anything to be done with the CDI. Just unplug it , clean the plugs & terminals & put it back.

        Originally posted by lywyre View Post
        Did you get this solved yet?

        My bike also behaved as such last Saturday on the way to Vellore from Chennai. My brother suggested it could be a blocked silencer and got worse as we rode along. Found a Yamaha mechanic at Walajah (about 32kms from Vellore). The choke had jammed and he replaced the choke cable and the bike was back to normal. Turned out he was an ex-Yamaha employee.

        I suggest you get a second opinion from an outside mechanic.
        Exactly!! Even my gladiator's chocke cable , though working suddenly started a peculiar behaviour. If i turn the handle bar to the left , engine was dying. I found out choke cable was the issue though still it was working. I got a new choke cable , lubed & greased it properly and fixed it. The problem just vanished.

        Originally posted by ameenhp View Post
        Hai,
        The problem seemed to have disappeared since last day. but iam just damn sure that it will come again.. it has been like that , the problem will disappear for few days and pop up again. Today the bike was perfectly fine, i tested out high end performance, and it was "ALL OK", it clocked 100kmph, it could rev properly and everything was pefect. But i really dont know how many days i will be able to enjoy this.. .. And yea Let me tell you, i didn't try out any new repairs, It just revived on its on. So i really don't know whats wrong.

        Regarding choke coil. Yea the choke cable is working, Its not jammed, i serviced my carburetor recently.

        regarding consulting an outside mechanic. Their is no place left in my small city :P. Now the mechanics are like " Oh the glady guy is coming with some new complaints, tell him we are busy " lol

        I would like to add few things regarding choke cable, I remember 2 years back i had a problem of engine missing, and found that choke had jammed and i had to give the carburetor to a lathe to get it fixed, and the reason Yam guys said was that its because i don't use choke often. Correct me if i am wrong, i guess choke is to be used only if need arises, The weather here is warm, and always i can start the bike in single crank. So should i still use choke so that it wont get " Jammed ". I feel it strange because i dont remember using choke on RXG everyday.
        Shocking that carb was in lathe for a jammed choke . Its as simple as fixing a new spark plug.

        i would recommend you to replace the airfilter , not clean it. Simple replace it. Even the spark plug after doing the ignition system cleaning that I suggested above.

        Also there are many pipes & breathers in the carb. Not attaching everything properly can be a big issue. Also , as the bike is old , there is a chance of vaccum leak from the hoses of the carb. The hose that connects the carb & airfilter box and also the carb & engine. If possible replace them or atleast apply some kind of sealant at all the joints.

        Also the spark plug condition reveals everything about whats going on inside the engine. Remove and check the sparkplug condition. There are various pics 7 charts on google through which you can clearly what story your spark plug is telling. For a quick reference , a black sooty plug means too much fuel or too less air. Reasons can be a jammed choke or a severely choked air filter.

        A whitish spark plug means lean mixture in the combustion chamber. That means fuel flow is not proper in the engine. Check carb , needles & fuel hose.

        I hope this helps.

        ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

        Recently my choke cable stuck and I replaced all possible cables in the bike like throttle cable , choke cable , speedo-meter cable & clutch cable.

        Choke cable was in a bad shape.
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        Also the piston and nut did not match with the old one , hence cleaned and used the old choke piston & nut and everything worked like a charm.
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        Also removed and cleaned the exterior of the carb. Also noticed some hoses were disconnected. connected everything before fixing the carb back into place.

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        Last edited by bobisbacktorock; 02-25-2015, 05:44 PM.
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        • Re: Yamaha Gladiator(All)

          Originally posted by bobisbacktorock View Post
          I think it is repairable. Altough if it is not and you happen to buy a new speedo meter , you can get the exact digits set on to the new odometer.
          Got it fixed by a mechanic locally and added 7k to the odo (including my backlogs when the speedo cable failed multiple times). But now the speedo error margin is too large. Shows ~67 when I am doing ~60. Also the odo is off by 2 kms for 130kms. Checked this with MyTracks app. Guess I will have to replace it.

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          • Re: Yamaha Gladiator(All)

            Hi guys,

            I am new to xbhp. Just yesterday got my first bike (Yamaha SS125 - Blue x Black) delivered. Bike looks nice. But I have 2 concerns with the bike now after delivery.

            1) When I checked SS125 owner reviews and forums, I came to know that their bike came with MRF Zappers Nylogrip Front 2.75-18.4PR, Back 3.00-18.6PR, but my bike was delivered with CEAT Secura Zoom Front 2.75-18 (42P), Rear 3.00-18 (52P) . Is this something I should be concerned about? Don't know much about bikes or tyres in general. So how does these CEAT tyres hold against MRF ones?

            2) Then when start the engine in neutral, it idles fine (at around 1k RPM) for the first time. But later after riding the bike for some distance (say 5 - 10kms), when I start the engine again from neutral, it is reving automatically to higher RPM and is idling somewhere between 3k and 4k RPM. What could be the issue? Will this be settled by itself after few runs or do I need to approach the showroom/service guys to fix it?

            Thanks and Best regards,
            Shanmugam

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            • Re: Yamaha Gladiator(All)

              The newer SS125s get the CEAT tyres. Though not as good as the Zappers, they do their job nicely.
              Let the engine be settled. Tell the idling issue to the mechanics if it persists even after the first servicing.
              Happy riding!
              A bike on the road is worth two in the shed.

              Weekend Rides Around Kolkata
              My Ride To Sunderbans -
              Hemnagar & Samsernagar
              Saagar Kinare - Bakkhali Calling

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              • Re: Yamaha Gladiator(All)

                I appreciate if any body could recommend a mechanic for converting to full DC at Chennai/ Vellore, TN.

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                  A few days back, I went to the Yamaha Factory Outlet in Kolkata to get my bike serviced. I enquired about the upcoming Saluto and was informed that Saluto will be reaching the dealerships shortly. But, I also came to know that SS125 has been discontinued. That was not good music to my ears. I have mailed to Yamaha to verify the same. Let's hope this is not true!
                  A bike on the road is worth two in the shed.

                  Weekend Rides Around Kolkata
                  My Ride To Sunderbans -
                  Hemnagar & Samsernagar
                  Saagar Kinare - Bakkhali Calling

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                  • Re: Yamaha Gladiator(All)

                    Originally posted by krishna77 View Post
                    A few days back, I went to the Yamaha Factory Outlet in Kolkata to get my bike serviced. I enquired about the upcoming Saluto and was informed that Saluto will be reaching the dealerships shortly. But, I also came to know that SS125 has been discontinued. That was not good music to my ears. I have mailed to Yamaha to verify the same. Let's hope this is not true!
                    Damn. The saluto looks hidious in the picture. SS any days looks premium. I dont think they would take that step. Though I hope they update the SS now.
                    HH Dawn - TVS Star City - Yamaha Gladiator - TVS RTR 180 - Honda CBR 250R - Yamaha R3

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                    • Re: Yamaha Gladiator(All)

                      This is what the reply from Yamaha was :

                      We thank you for your mail. This is to inform you that the SS125 Model is a running Model & there is no such update on the discontinuation of the same.

                      I really don't have a clue why showroom people are not interested in selling/promoting SS125. They don't have a display model as well!


                      A bike on the road is worth two in the shed.

                      Weekend Rides Around Kolkata
                      My Ride To Sunderbans -
                      Hemnagar & Samsernagar
                      Saagar Kinare - Bakkhali Calling

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                      • Yamaha gladiator ss 125(problems,quiries,experiances)

                        HEY Friends, i am very new to xBHP just 1 hours....
                        I own a YAMAHA Gladiator ss 125 almost 3 years old
                        from very beginning i am facing a problem that is BATTERY DIDNT CHARGE at all even i ride it continuously 20-30 km per day or even a trip of 300km nonstop.
                        i dont know what is the problem i told this problem to the compna gus and the told me that this is BATTERy fault so i replaced it with a new one branded MINDA
                        battery and it last untill it get discharged .... i the mean while i have chaked mY bike OUTPUT CHARGING CURRENT to BATTERY WHILE ACCELERATING AROUND 4000-5000RPM AND IT indicates that it onl give around 12.5-13.5max and since i know ideal voltage for charging a battery is 14.8 .
                        so i have no idea about this problem can an one help me since i told i am ver new in this field so frnds pls be little illustrative......

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                        • Re: Yamaha Gladiator(All)

                          HEY Friends, i am very new to xBHP just 1 hours....
                          I own a YAMAHA Gladiator ss 125 almost 3 years old
                          from very beginning i am facing a problem that is BATTERY DIDNT CHARGE at all even i ride it continuously 20-30 km per day or even a trip of 300km nonstop.
                          i dont know what is the problem i told this problem to the service center guys and the told me that this is BATTERy fault so i replaced it with a new one branded MINDA
                          battery and it last untill it get discharged .... in the mean while i have checked mY bike OUTPUT CHARGING CURRENT to BATTERY WHILE ACCELERATING AROUND 4000-5000RPM AND IT indicates that it only give around 12.5-13.5 max and since i know ideal voltage for charging a battery is 14.8 .
                          so i have no idea about this problem can an one help me since i told i am very new in this field so frnds pls be little illustrative......
                          EVER THING ELSE WAS FINE wITH BIKE like i get almost 60-55kmpl in city ...touched a speed of 120km/hr.... no rusting at all....ideal for long drive.....no vibration felt....... but the battery problem disappear my SMILE
                          Last edited by VIPUL_RAI; 05-17-2015, 05:53 PM.

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                          • Engine Overhaul of yamaha gladiator 125SS 2008 model

                            Hi Friends,
                            I own a Yamaha Gladiator 125 SS 2008 Model.
                            I guess It has completed 1,20,000 KMs (I guess coz, meter has stopped after 55,000 KM)

                            I was living near Dwarka, New Delhi and working in GK-2 and NOIDA later on.
                            I used to ride it for around 80 KMs per day during weekdays.
                            On average it was around 500 KMs per week or 2000 KMs per month.
                            For past two Years I am living in Noida. So average run for my bike is around 50 KMs per day on weekdays or 1000 KMs (max) monthly.

                            I get my bike serviced on regular basis from authorized service center only. But for last few months, my bike is consuming more fuel and needs more maintenance.

                            On last service, the mechanic told me its time to get its engine overhauled. He gave me an estimate of RS. 10,000/- and around RS.12,000/- with parts.
                            It is a big amount for me. So I went to some local service center and got the estimate. they gave me estimate of Rs. 8,000/- with parts.

                            So there is around difference of Rs. 4,000/- . Here I have some doubts. like:

                            1. What will be difference between overhaul done by Authorized service center and a local service center. (I guess even authorized service center doesn't have such
                            facility and they have to send the engine outside.)

                            2. Will there be any any difference in riding quality?

                            3. Will there be any problem for claiming insurance, I any accident happen due to any reason.

                            4. Is there any good service center in Delhi/NCR where i can get best engine work for my bike as rs.10,000/- is a big amount for me and i dont want to spend on
                            some mediocre service

                            Kindly reply ASAP as I need to get it serviced by this weekend coz its creating lots of sound and problems.

                            Thanks in advance.
                            Darshan

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                            • Re: Yamaha Gladiator(All)

                              HI Guys,

                              I need some suggestion in changing sprockets for my ss125 2008 model....

                              Recently i have changed Original sprockets but within 3k kms sprockets-front has got bent and From Yamaha they said no warranty on this....

                              I need help in changing front sprocket.... which 150cc or more bike's front sprocket will suit my gladiator front sprocket....?-so that it can handle more load without being bent...

                              Thanks in advance

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                              • Re: Yamaha Gladiator(All)

                                Originally posted by bobisbacktorock View Post
                                I think it is repairable. Altough if it is not and you happen to buy a new speedo meter , you can get the exact digits set on to the new odometer.



                                Firstly , i am assuming your wiring hareness is a bit messed up as your RR & Stator failed. Get the stator & RR checked.
                                2. There is plug that comes out of the engine left side (stator) , a white plug having 4 wires , yellow , white , black & blue i guess. diconnect the plug , clean both sides terminals with petrol & a tooth brush. Apply grease before fixing it back.

                                3.Now the cable that connects the spark plug & HT coil is to be removed by unscrewing the cable from the Ht coil & sparkplug cap. cut of around 1 cm of the cable from both the ends and fix it back.
                                4. There are two pins in HT coil , remove them , clean them and grease them b4 putting it back.

                                5. Remove TPS plug from carburator , clean terminals , apply grease and fix back.

                                By the above process , you are eliminating any failures in the ignition system whatsoever. CDI is not a toy that will fail every now and then and need replacement. I would not suggest anything to be done with the CDI. Just unplug it , clean the plugs & terminals & put it back.



                                Exactly!! Even my gladiator's chocke cable , though working suddenly started a peculiar behaviour. If i turn the handle bar to the left , engine was dying. I found out choke cable was the issue though still it was working. I got a new choke cable , lubed & greased it properly and fixed it. The problem just vanished.



                                Shocking that carb was in lathe for a jammed choke . Its as simple as fixing a new spark plug.

                                i would recommend you to replace the airfilter , not clean it. Simple replace it. Even the spark plug after doing the ignition system cleaning that I suggested above.

                                Also there are many pipes & breathers in the carb. Not attaching everything properly can be a big issue. Also , as the bike is old , there is a chance of vaccum leak from the hoses of the carb. The hose that connects the carb & airfilter box and also the carb & engine. If possible replace them or atleast apply some kind of sealant at all the joints.

                                Also the spark plug condition reveals everything about whats going on inside the engine. Remove and check the sparkplug condition. There are various pics 7 charts on google through which you can clearly what story your spark plug is telling. For a quick reference , a black sooty plug means too much fuel or too less air. Reasons can be a jammed choke or a severely choked air filter.

                                A whitish spark plug means lean mixture in the combustion chamber. That means fuel flow is not proper in the engine. Check carb , needles & fuel hose.

                                I hope this helps.

                                ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

                                Recently my choke cable stuck and I replaced all possible cables in the bike like throttle cable , choke cable , speedo-meter cable & clutch cable.

                                Choke cable was in a bad shape.


                                Also the piston and nut did not match with the old one , hence cleaned and used the old choke piston & nut and everything worked like a charm.

                                Old one


                                New one which did not work

                                Also removed and cleaned the exterior of the carb. Also noticed some hoses were disconnected. connected everything before fixing the carb back into place.

                                So thanks for all your suggestion .But i dont think you are gonna believe me if i say i have been trying the suggested things frequently since a very long time.
                                So here is the latest update. Like i said in my previous post my bikes issue with revving gets solved temporarily once i change sparks. This has happened again. i had changed my sparks in April and all was good. but my bike started acting weird again last week. So i kept it at Yam again last week and told them to fix the issue and not to give back by just changing sparks. But to my surprise they have did the same thing again, Replaced sparks and told me that the spark was having lots of carbon so it wasnt firing properly.

                                So my question is, isn't this a complain that they should rectify. I mean if too much carbon gets deposited on sparks in less than 45 days , isn't that a problem. But they dont accept this statement

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