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Yes there are options present in bias. I was talking about radials where there are none except Michelin PSR which itself is not easily available either. -
11 year old CBR250R ABS with 32k on odo assuming well maintained shouldn't cost more than 70k tops. 60-65k would have been a good deal.Originally posted by RTRab View Post
Take a proper test ride, ride at various RPMs. Check if the vibrations are normal.
Get it checked at the nearest Honda ASC.
Ask for service history from the owner.
Make sure there is no engine oil or coolant leakage evident.
Condition of tyres and brake pads will help you bargain and will give you a fair idea on how much you will have to spend soon. Because a new pair of tyres will cost you minimum 7k and set of CABS brake pads will cost you 3.5kLeave a comment:
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Masseter is good. 12K+ kms still have decent grooves and grip in it. One of the cheap and best options, never went out of control while hard braking.Originally posted by Ratan Prabhu View Post
I think it will last minimum 18K when drove in good roads.Leave a comment:
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Fellow xbhpians,
Thanks a lot of all of the suggestions for my previous posts. I could really use some help from you all again. I found 2011 make CBR 250 ABS for 75k, it has done 32000 kms. I plan to visit and look at the bike this weekend. Can you all suggest any tips on examining the bike, I know it's a Honda but it's 10yrs old so not sure of what apart from the usual should I be looking at.
Also B7ackthorn sir, based on your suggestion, I went with my dad to check out a suzuki gixxer sf 250, man, it was vibrating so much at idle for a bike that had done only 1703 kms, I've driven a rented Honda CBR having done 40k kms with plastics loose to be smoother.
I realized that I can live with fact that Honda spares maybe an issue but then the bike seems so worth the wait.
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Hi Seamus, I think that both Suzuki and Honda are equally good 250s but my honest opinion is also of that Honda is the better one. Not from the race or performance point of view but when i look at the service intervals and feel the way the engine goes and sounds, it feels Honda, bulletproof. I'm sure Suzuki is good too, but very much like you I too prefer Honda.Originally posted by Seamus View Post
I'm really hoping to find a good deal on an ABS model in Hyderabad.Leave a comment:
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Hi Siddhant, that's exactly the reason that I want the Honda CBR 250R, that smooth engine and thr itch to do long rides and the hassle free nature of Honda.Originally posted by siddhant View Post
My only fear of CBR is the lack of spares and quality of service by Honda.
I would be really grateful if CBR owners in hyderabad can share some of thier ownership experiences on the same.Leave a comment:
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CBR 250 looks better IMO, Also you should get good condition CBR 250 (ABS) less run for reasonable price of 65000.Originally posted by RTRab View Post
Thanks for the advice psr, I will do that, I was also inclined to the CBR because of the long service haul and liquid cooled engine.
I must say these two bikes create a very tempting confusion
. But something tells me that Honda CBR is the one. I wonder ..
Most importantly CBR is DOHC and Suzuki is SOHC,
inspite of on paper power being the same,there is huge difference how the power is delivered.
It's More prominent when you are driving with Pillion and the pickup or the pull is not bogged down much as compared to other bike.
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Recently, I did a 1450 km trip on my CBR over 3 days in this sweltering heat. The engine performed flawlessly even when I was riding at 90+ kph during the afternoon at around 44-45 C. In fact, I was more worried about the tyres than the engine. The Gixxer SF 250 certainly seems like a good bike but the CBR is a tested and proven performer in all conditions - peak summer or freezing Ladakh rides. When maintained properly, it'll serve you for years without hassles.Originally posted by RTRab View Post
Thanks for the advice psr, I will do that, I was also inclined to the CBR because of the long service haul and liquid cooled engine.
I must say these two bikes create a very tempting confusion. But something tells me that Honda CBR is the one. I wonder ..
One more thing, with the Apache RTR, you would never have the same itch to do long rides as you'd have once you get a CBR.Leave a comment:
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Thanks for the advice psr, I will do that, I was also inclined to the CBR because of the long service haul and liquid cooled engine.Originally posted by psr View Post
I must say these two bikes create a very tempting confusion. But something tells me that Honda CBR is the one. I wonder ..
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Thanks Ratan, I also think that the price quoted is too much. My need of a bike is majorly in the city with a few highway rides, the RTR thrives in these conditions and gives me a mileage of 50-52 kmpl. I can imagine that the running costs of a 250cc will be far more. Maybe I can wait to see if Honda is to introduce a CBR this year (fingers crossed)Originally posted by Ratan Prabhu View Post.
I do miss the power on the highway Ratan, the only place where the RTR feels out of place man, otherwise its a gem.
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1.80L for a used bike makes no sense when the brand new one can be bought for 2.20L (on road Mumbai) even if the used bike is a year old and less ridden.
Also, if your usage is mainly city, then u should consider sticking to your Apache bs6 as it is not even 2 yrs old.
CBR250R/Gixxer250 are bikes that can do ok in city but real fun is on the highways at 5k+ RPMsLeave a comment:
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Thanks B7ackthorn for the advice, I also feel that Suzuki is the more better choice, I used to drive an R15 V2 in traffic, but when I switched over to an RTR 160 4V, I saw the differencein daily grind of traffic. I think Suzuki Gixxer Sf 250 is the best choice, unless Honda decides that " wait we forgot about CBR 250R, let's get it back"Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
If peace of mind is your option, I would strongly suggest you lean towards the SF250 twins. The SF250 is one of the best, if not the best high revving 250 that offers more or less a similar performance, if not slightly better mid range performance than the CBR 250 in city, barring the Duke 250 at a competitive price. Highways is where the SF250 shines, sweet mid range performance is absolute stress free on the highways, coupled with 6 cogs it's a through balance of power and comfort. CBR is a bummer when it comes to choc a bloc traffic, where it demands the rider frequent shifts.
If your commute mostly includes slicing through traffic, the choc a bloc traffic of Hyderabad, Gixxer 250 would keep you happy. Coming to maintenance cost, for a similar performance the cost of ownership is comparatively lesser than the CBR in every aspect of ownership, especially when compared to spares, and ease of serviceability and overall spares downtime.
Good luck.
Cheers!
VJ
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Thanks for the response Ratan, from what I was told, the vehicle seemed to belong to a bank manager who was moving elsewhere. The Gixxer sf is a 2021 model. The price quoted is a little high 1.8L. I will continue searching or trying to negotiate for a cheaper deal. I'm also inclined toward the suzuki becuase it might be easier to handle in the city than the Cbr which is where I need it more.Originally posted by Ratan Prabhu View Post
In fact to be honest, I own a Bs6 Apache RTR 160 4V that I'm trying to sell or exchange and get a good deal on the Suzuki Gixxer SF 250.
Will keep updating on the same..
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A look at the CBR250 and their ownership experience is available here in Xbhp. Take time to Go through it . An LC is always better in Engine heat management than an oil cooled one. If the engine temperature and the inside moving parts are stabilized better in hot condition , then it's life and performance under heat stress conditions will be better than an oil cooled one. Every time the Oil cooled engine Becomes Hot and the Oil has to do the cooling , it takes a toll on the oil property over time , and ultimately on the engine.
An LC engine oil change can be after a longer Kms traveled than an Oil cooled one. People have changed CBR engine oil at 6,000 Kms to sometimes 8,000 Kms , and the engine had survived. So now it is a question of one's preference , rides likely to be done,and what it costs the pocket .Leave a comment:
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Gixxer SF 250 engine is more refined than the CBR. But you should question as to why the owner sold the bike within 2 yrs ?Originally posted by RTRab View Postdid go to visit a second hand bike showroom in Hyderabad yesterday for a CBR, but they didn't have it. They did have a Suzuki Gixxer SF 250, a 2020 Ecstar special edition model.To be honest, i'm confused now on what to pick. While both of them are smooth Japanese motors with nearly same power and specs (except for Suzuki being oil cooled and SOHC), Suzuki is still in production and hence procuring spares and getting it serviced might be easier.
I'm open to any suggestion from CBR owners on choosing between these two. I've driven a CBR and it is amazing. I'm hopeful that Suzuki might also be equally smooth
check whether it is bs4 or 6. Check service history, take test ride.
The only area where CBR is better than the Gixxer SF 250 is the high speed (120+ kmph) stability. The wind blast is too much on the Gixxer post 120 kmph due to small windscreen.
Performance wise both bikes are similar. Both can do 150 top speed, both can do 0-100 inside 10 secs, both return a mileage of ~30 in city, ~35 on highways. The engine is good enough for being oil cooled. So don't worry abt it not being liquid cooled like the CBR.
PS - what's the price you were quoted ? Brand new model costs around 2.20L on road here in Mumbai. Just wondering what's the price of a used but only 2 yr old model. Anything around 1.25L would be an awesome deal.Leave a comment:
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